Baidoa capture anger at Abu mansuur, why now?

[General Duke]

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[General Duke]

He was a hero for so long, now they accuse him of committing war crime and of being a tyrant, a two faced clanist?

 

Why now. The monster they created is coming to haunt them. Al Shabaab has become a lethal multi clan organization with a mind of its own.

[Somali Pirate]

duke,

 

keep dreaming my friend. Al shabab has the support of the common man in the south.

 

Al shabab is going no where. And the warlords and thugs are shaking in their boots. I suggest you stick to puntland and your hero who is hiding in yemen like the coward he is.

[General Duke]

Baydhabo oo Islaamiyiin ay la wareegeen iyo xildhibaano lasii daayay.

 

Monday, 26 January 2009 18:08 BXM

Magaalada Baydhabo ayaa waxaa la wareegay oo gaaray halkaasi xoogag katirsan kuwa Islaamiyiinta kuwaasi oo kala ah Shabaabka iyo sidoo kale Jabhadda Islaamiga Soomaaliyeed (Jabiso).

 

Xoogagani ayaa waxa ay gaareen Baydhabo xilli ay kajirto fowdo xoogan oo dhac loo geystay xarunta Madaxtooyada iyo tii ADC-da Baydhabo iyo goobo kale.

 

Hadaba markii ay xoogagani galeen Baydhabo ayaa waxa ay isku fidiyeen dhowr goobood gaar ahaan goobaha ay dhaca iyo boobka kasocdeen halkaasi oo ay kamid aheyd bankiga dhexe oo ay sheegeen Ammaankiisa in iyagu ay sugayaan.

 

Kadib markii ay magaalada la wareegeen ayaa waxa ay gacanta kudhigeen xildhibaano katirsan TFG-da iyo saraakiil dhinaca Ammaanka ah oo Maamulka Gobolka bay katirsan.

 

Waxaa kamid ahaa dadkii gacanta lagu dhigay Wasiirka Gaadiidka cirka iyo Dhulka Maxamed Ibraahim Xaabsade, Xildhibaan Ibraahim ***** Yarow, Gudoomiyaha Gobolka Baay C/fataax Ibraahim Geesey, Aadan Saransoor oo ka mid ah Saraakiisha Ammaanka iyo rag kale.

 

Abuu-mansuur oo heyb ahaan ay isku meel kasoo jeedaan ayaa si wanaagsan u qaabilay, waxaana uu kula shiray Baydhabo isaga oo ka reebtay hubkooda lakin gaari inta shidaal uga buuxiyay u fasaxay dhanka Degmada Xudur.

 

Xaaladda Magaalada ayaa ah iminka meel degan, waxaana dib u furmay dhaq dhaqaaqa ganacsi oo xilliyadii dambe la arkayay in aanu lafuri Karin wixii ka dambeeya shanta galabnimo lakin maanta ay furaanayaan illaa habeenimo.

[General Duke]

Mr Prirate, you do not get the point of the post, so you rush in like the novice you are.

Al Shabaab seem to be on top of the game, thus why the anger from the usual clan portals, that used to support them what has changed now?

 

The Shabaab have morphed into an organization which is against the vested interest of the usual clan acolytes thus this is a welcome thing.

Though the showdown in the south is not good for anyone and least of all the poor helpless population.

 

Where is Adan Madobe, Nur Cade and their strategy to empower the governemnt, they lost everything in less than a month.

[Paragon]

Originally posted by Somali Pirate:

duke,

 

keep dreaming my friend.

Al shabab has the support of the common man in the south.

 

Al shabab is going no where. And the warlords and thugs are shaking in their boots. I suggest you stick to puntland and your hero who is hiding in yemen like the coward he is.

Regretedly, that's a support they are losing rapidly.

[Somali Pirate]

Originally posted by General Duke:

Mr Prirate,

you do not get the point of the post, so you rush in like the novice you are.

Al Shabaab seem to be on top of the game, thus why the anger from the usual clan portals, that used to support them what has changed now?

 

The Shabaab have morphed into an organization which is against the vested interest of the usual clan acolytes thus this is a welcome thing.

Though the showdown in the south is not good for anyone and least of all the poor helpless population.

 

Where is Adan Madobe, Nur Cade and their strategy to empower the governemnt, they lost everything in less than a month.

wherever al shabab goes, there is peace and security. Welcome sign to a terrorised population.

 

As for nur adde and the rest, sheikh sharif is going to win. He is the only person who can bring al shabab to the table.

 

The rest have no legitemacy

[Somali Pirate]

Originally posted by TheWayfarer:

quote:Originally posted by Somali Pirate:

duke,

 

keep dreaming my friend.

Al shabab has the support of the common man in the south.

 

Al shabab is going no where. And the warlords and thugs are shaking in their boots. I suggest you stick to puntland and your hero who is hiding in yemen like the coward he is.

Regretedly, that's a support they are losing rapidly.

only in your dreams my friend. Go and ask the people of kismayo. You can walk in the street peacefully without being attacked by tribal thug and theives

[Paragon]

Lol. You should ask other users, mate. I mean what I am saying. Afterall I waved the flag for them before you were 'born'?

[General Duke]

..Adeer indeed you are a novice, the groups pushing the Sharif are the same groups who want to continue the war for what ever reason. Thus the Al Shabaab are easily the best option out of the bad apples left in the south. The Sharif and the clan acolytes will be forced to fight their old friends and this is what you do not see. The anti Al Shabaab rhetoric has increased markedly from the same clan webistes that used to support them. e have seen the massacre of the Al Shabaab fighters in Guri-Ceel by the same groups who now support the Sharif, Why? And what will this mean for the people of the south, this is the real question ya Pirate wanna be.

[Somali Pirate]

general duke.

 

sheikh sharif has ruled the south for a period of 6 months in 2006 which has brought peace and stability.

 

 

None of your heroes has managed to that. So please don't even mention the sheikh's name with the rest of the failures.

 

 

Al shabab has brought peace to every town it controls. Duke. al shabab is free from tribal ideology. something you will never be free from the rest of your life.

[NASSIR]

The only way out of outsider meddling and political independence to the Somali nation is through the Al-shabaab resistance movement. We have been betrayed time after time and to trust again the Elephant in the room is a clossal life time mistake.

[Xoogsade]

There are some lessons Muqdisho residents can take from this peaceful surrender of Baydhabo:

 

A- Differentiate the bad from the good and don't aid the warlords when confronted by a better organization. Reer Baydhabo could have encouraged Xaabsade and his militia to stay on and fight but they didn't.

 

B- Xaabsade seeing how unwilling the population was to come to his aide, made the right calculation and phoned in Al-shabaab for his surrender according to this website , therefore -peaceful surrender of muqdisho is what clan elders and the population should aim if there is a future stalemate. Choose the good over the warlords as happened in 2006.

 

 

Abuu-mansuur is a political genius in making this take-over peaceful and letting Xaabsade and other warlords go on their way. Rumour has it that Xaabsade and his associates had a plane waiting for them and could have left town before Al-shabaab came to town. They opted to surrender the city and leave peacefully without a fight. Finally, a warlord who understood the TFG isn't worth the blood of single Baydhabaawi.

[RedSea]

Masha allah. the boys have done it again. wayfarer walal things are going great. Keep supporting them saaxib. Your good word is needed. We need them for bringing together dadka walalaha ee kala maqan around our faith.

[General Duke]

Abu Mansuur move today was a great one, he spared his city and the people. Thats a great move and must be recognised.