Puntland’s Situational Irony

[xiinfaniin]

Puntland Darwiishs (the army) should've been ones fighting on both Galkacyo and Galgala fronts, not an armed militia that is organized for intelligence purposes by a foreign entity with a tunnel vision take on the affairs of the horn. PIS is an embarrassment to the state as it challenges normal authority, and Puntland can do without it. One can try to demagogue out of this issue all one wants, but the facts remain so.

[General Duke]

The PIS is a fighting unit as well as an intelligence gathering. They are an elite force, rapid reaction force. They are an answer to the Al Shabaab problem, the other security wings also fought well. The fact that the PIS which is now around 2000 strong is hated by the fake Jihadi’s and their sympathizers is a testament to their strength. Its also important to note here why secessionists are calling for its dismantling they don’t like any gains made by Puntland.

[NGONGE]

Originally posted by Sakhar_The:

Ngonge is human and as he has found himself more often than he wanted on the losing side in most threads him and Duke debated, he follows and takes retributions as an consequence and action.

 

It's human trait after all to take acts of revenge and reprisals though of the bad category scale of human emotions.

 

However Farole with all his mistakes has made the right decision. The PIS are heroes and xiinfaniin has no valid reason to question their role as they're the most useful and loyal organ the State has thus far and without them, there would be no Puntland and no Peace today.

 

As we speak PIS units are in full control of Bosaso. They catch all the criminals, murderers and terrorists. They succeed where others fail to react or pre-empt. They're highly trained individuals who know how to survey, catch and react to everything that goes on where they are stationed. They're the special units within Puntland's arsenal of police, birmad, bol-bir, standard Darawiish army, Coast guard army and other special security units.

 

PIS is the elite of all of them. Where they're they put everyone to sleep, Where they go everything is quiet. No one moves, no one dares to commit an act of criminal activity because they know the elite is there and they will catch them.

 

PIS's success rate is the highest shame that they don't operate all the time in the major cities or are visible on the street everyday but when they come, calms comes with them. They're the strong arm of the State, it's life line and resort when everything seems to go wrong once the PIS arrives the problems go as criminals flee the scene because they know of PIS' reputation and high success rate of catching criminals.

 

Back to Farole, Farole was duped for almost a whole year by elders who he was taking advice from. But I'm proud of Farole whatever the past, I'm proud today that he is my President. I'm proud of his call and awakening of the long slumber he was in. I'm proud that he finally realised and mobilised the army and let the PIS reign again on the streets of Puntland's economical capital of Bosaso. I'm proud of his defiance. I'm proud of his leadership. I'm proud that he is a Puntlander by heart and tongue.

 

Farole changed governors, mayors tried to re-structure the PIS and sacked it's commander Osman Abdullahi Diano to appease the terrorists and other outside enemies of the State in Galgala he tried everything but was lead into the wrong direction but finally he got it right and now is stepping up to the issue. No more slumber Farole.

 

There will be no negotiations, there will be a wipe out and a closing of this episode. Galgala will be returning to the State's government and the enemies of the state will thus again be send packing.

 

We all support Farole in his last efforts and his wake up from the slumber and misguidance and deceit of the people he trusted.

 

We have been through much worse this will be another chapter in Puntland's history where by a small group tried to set up shop there but failed. All the invaders will be crushed and this is not the emotional me but the realist. The people of Puntland are good and peace loving citizens but there patience has been running slim lately.

 

Somalis know only when you hit them hard enough that they will respect you and Farole is doing this by crushing the Galgala terrorists. No elder or wishful thinking clannist will change the course or route of this.

 

Victory will be ours because we are on the right path and our enemies are in the wrong path. We will prevail.

Adeer iga daa dee.

I am with Duke when Duke makes sense and against him when he doesnt'. I don't need to argue with him here because we both agree on the incompetence of Faroole. As for my past encounters with Duke, I am glad you were there to take scores and keep an eye on things, one does not like to be mugged.

 

Now lets turn to you and your shameless praise of Faroole. You say he's the greatest thing since Xalwo! But I doubt that the SSC crew, the galgala clan or the deported refugees would agree with you. The list of errors and mistakes the man made are as long as Xiin's arm yet that man still thinks Faroole has not failed and you yourself are coming here trying to sell us this nonesense about him being a good leader. A man that wanted to sue Amin Amir for a joke picture? Ceeb, ceeb, adeer isku xishoow.

[UZTAAD]

If the PIS is controlled and funded by other foreign spy agent I think that is a big problem for instance when the interests of puntland and that of foreign agent are at conflict will PIS keep at the interests of puntland at heart or will they simply serve the interest of their handlers I think they will do the later.

The reason so far pis was successful is because the CIA and puntland had a common enemy so far which is the terror outfits like alshabaab, alqaeda itc

But ultimately PIS will serve the interest of the foreign agent and it can even be used against puntland when ever thise foreign agents see it fit.

So puntland should find their own intelegent service and this PIS should disbanded if possible though I think it is not right now.

[General Duke]

PIS, are all men from Puntland, they are defending their people, their land and the interest of those people.

 

their target is Al Shabaab cells in Puntland and thats all.

[xiinfaniin]

Despite Duke's effort to defend PIS, most see the need to reform it. It should not be all or nothing, but one should at least admit the need to synchronize this stand-alone entity with the rest of the government. There are local complaints from different corners ...and it's real. An intelligence agency will be effective to the extent it is supported by the people it serves.

 

It's true Faroole tried to just do that, but I doubt he succeeded in that attempt of his.

 

NGONGE, you are doing what you do best which is being playful, Faroole has challenges and big challenges at that but he did not fail.

[UZTAAD]

Originally posted by General Duke:

PIS, are all men from Puntland, they are defending their people, their land and the interest of those people.

 

their target is Al Shabaab cells in Puntland and thats all.

DUKE, as far as they are they doing this much we have to support them but the state should make sure that PIS should not be misused by any body

[NGONGE]

^^ Faroole is no politician, saaxib. He's a thug that stepped into shoes three sizes big. When he took PL over SSC were proudly part of the state (even if LA wasn't), the Galgala clan were waving that flag like a Kanaan on speed and PL was viewed as one of the few peaceful (and organised) regions of Somalia. Now, the SSC don't want PL, the galgala clan are complaining about being picked on and some are distancing themselves from the state. Even those from the South that had doubts about PL's clannish tendencies are viewing the state in a different light today. On the other side, those belonging to the ONLF clan can't stand PL. So, tell me again if this is not failure, saaxib. You better pray that some reasonable people can catch the man before he burns the place down.

 

P.S.

No need to mentin Amin Amir, pirates and the sacking of MPs.

[Libaax-Sankataabte]

lool@Thug. NGONGE ka daa awoowe.

 

It is not an overstatement to suggest Faroole had “difficulties” navigating through the tribal dynamics of the State. But to suggest Faroole is “the problem” is largely ignoring the intricacies of the current institutional setup. Such viewpoint merely focuses on symptoms rather than the problem. Faroole’s past blunders (the biggest being the SSC issue) are significant and should be highlighted, but the security issue Puntland is experiencing at the present time is largely born out of the shortcomings and inadequacies of the PIS he inherited. Faroole is, in a lot of ways , a victim of a monster he neither created nor able to control effectively with a sound strategy.

 

The President needs a bold strategy. When this conflict subsides, Faroole needs to reform the agency in order to address the grievances of the religious community and some of the clan actors. One can't emphasize enough the importance of the religious community in the state of Puntland. A crucial step to reforming the PIS is to rebuild the multi-clan comprehensive Darwiish Army /Police of which the State is its sole authority. The young lads shadowing the PIS bigwigs are only seeking economic benefits to feed their families. The State needs to seize influence away from the parallel authority known as the PIS by empowering the Armed forces and the local Police units. As such, the activities of the PIS should eventually be curtailed to “intelligence gathering” only as was habitual in the past.

[xiinfaniin]

NGONGE , you are misreading the situation. You are also misinformed.

 

You misread the Galgala situation, for there is no real second thought on that community’s Puntland loyalty. You are bought by the sentimental analysis, and the hype of news portals. Atom is not a strategic threat, nor does his emergence came about as a result of deep clannish sentiment against Puntland.

 

You are misinformed on SSC. On SSC, Faroole forced a dialogue and what you see is the teething pains of the rebirth of a political consensus of that region, even Siilaanyo sensed the coming storm. It is politics at it is best awoowe.

 

So your Faroole-has-failed utterances has no basis.

[Thankful]

Originally posted by NGONGE:

), the Galgala clan were waving that flag like a Kanaan on speed and PL was viewed as one of the few peaceful (and organized) regions of Somalia.

The Diaspora Gagala group had left Puntland 2 years ago claiming unfairness from the previous admin. What they are saying about Faroole is nothing compared to what they were crying about the previous admin. Yet, they came back and almost won the presidency. Now they are complaining about this admin. Which they only started after the admin began doing something about the threat of Mr. Atam poses. They refuse to condemn the criminals that reside in their areas and the lawlessness. They use the UN Security report as a way to attack Faroole and accuse him of being a pirate, but that same report clearly mentions Mr. Atam and Diaspora returnee Ilka-Jiir criminal activity (who they remain silent on criticizing).

 

Their Diaspora has a history of complaining and causing instability, focusing less on developing their region and too much on complaining about their perceived injustices.

[NGONGE]

Xiin,

There is no smoke without fire, saaxib. The news portals convey existing sentiments (they might over do it but it is still there).

 

Sorry Xiin, you can't explain the man's failings with this gruff about it being politics at its best. The man is a failure and god only knows why you refuse to see it.

 

LST, dee runta aan isu sheegno saaxib. The PIS and all these things may have been there before Faroole became president but a seasoned politician with plans for presidency would have seen that and devised a plan for it long ago. Faroole is neither laid back like Cade before him nor is he authoritative enough like Abdullahi Yusuf. He has been president for a while now and any judge (impartial, evil or his own cousin) should surely admit that the man does not dictate events but rather lets them get on top of him and always reacts too late. On the odd occasion that he instigates an event it always has been laughable and rebounded back on him:

See the arrest and release of pirates

See the over-the-top reaction to an overseas caricature

See the call for the citizens to bear arms

See the employment of his own son as his special advisor

See the deportations and the statements that followed them

 

The man is not savvy enough nor shrewed enough to keep his mouth shut when the occasion calls for it. His decision making is flawed and he believes that the display of force is the equivalent of having authority. Yet, SSC, Galgala and the PIS itself prove that this is not the case.

 

Ma been baan sheegay?

[xiinfaniin]

NGONGE, you are describing latest events in Puntland and Faroole’s style of management. Events take place, and no plans however prudent can prevent them from taking place.

That Faroole is different than his predecessors could not reasonably be basis for your verdict awoowe.

[NGONGE]

^^ A proper politician deals with such events BEFORE they take place, saaxib. Every single problem that Faroole faces today is something he could have foreseen and dealt with at the beginning. None of them are natural disasters or things out of his sphere of control. That the SSC discord took place, that the Galgala murmurings are taking place and that the pirates were running free all point to one thing, the incompetence of the admin.

 

Comparing him to his predecessors shows you the level and extent of his incompetence. PL was there for twelve years, PL was functioning fine (if not perfectly) so why is PL facing so many problems today (with many of those created by Faroole himself)? The buck stops with the self declared Imaam; duhurkiisa waa shan rakcado.

[xiinfaniin]

Originally posted by Libaax-Sankataabte:

 

It is not an overstatement to suggest Faroole had “difficulties” navigating through the tribal dynamics of the State. But to suggest Faroole is “the problem” is largely ignoring the intricacies of the current institutional setup. Such viewpoint merely focuses on symptoms rather than the problem. Faroole’s past blunders (the biggest being the SSC issue) are significant and should be highlighted, but the security issue Puntland is experiencing at the present time is largely born out of the shortcomings and inadequacies of the PIS he inherited. Faroole is, in a lot of ways , a victim of a monster he neither created nor able to control effectively with a sound strategy.

 

The President needs a bold strategy. When this conflict subsides, Faroole needs to reform the agency in order to address the grievances of the religious community and some of the clan actors. One can't emphasize enough the importance of the religious community in the state of Puntland. A crucial step to reforming the PIS is to rebuild the multi-clan comprehensive Darwiish Army /Police of which the State is its sole authority. The young lads shadowing the PIS bigwigs are only seeking economic benefits to feed their families. The State needs to seize influence away from the parallel authority known as the PIS by empowering the Armed forces and the local Police units. As such, the activities of the PIS should eventually be curtailed to “intelligence gathering” only as was habitual in the past.

Great way of articulating what I have been laboring to say in various pages on this platform.