Former President Mohamed Siad Barre, The Most Wrongfully Vilified Person

[Ojelle]

Siyad was a failure and his supporters like Horn should have defended him when he needed it, not after 12 years since his death

loooool, buuh baahdii cida miyaad wali aaminsantahay yaa dhafoorqiiq !

 

Your signature says it all, how could you be against Siyaad Barre while you praise Yey everyday?

[General Duke]

To Siad, the mnemonics of liberation fronts merely hid angry clan groupings. Once so identified, whole areas were devastated. Among the first to suffer were the NORTHEAST. But it was confrontation with the NORTHWEST, the largest clan in the north, which revealed the depths which Siad and his relative-generals were prepared to plumb.

The word ''genocide'' came to be used by international human rights observers.

 

Then in May 1986 whilst Siad was being driven through blinding rain by the Mayor of Mogadishu, his car hit a bus and was promptly rammed from the back by a vehicle full of bodyguards.

Local people rushed to help, but they were machine-gunned.

Siad, in a coma, was saved by the hospital plane of the Saudi monarch, but another factor - a family squabble over succession possibilities - further complicated the political scene.

 

[General Duke]

Siad decided that the time was ripe to make a deal with the Ethiopian leader, Col Mengistu. Neither could any longer spare troops to face down each other, when there was mounting civil conflict to which they could be transferred. Either side would cease to fuel the other's problems and restrain the ''dissidents'' on their territory. But before Mengistu could suppress the SNM (as he had the SSDF), the Somalis went home. Siad reacted without any restraint: Hargeisa, the nation's second city, and former capital of British Somaliland, and other cities of the

north were strafed, rocketed and bombed. In 1988 and 1989 columns of refugees were not spared. The final countdown had begun.

[Gabbal]

Here he goes. Once again, sabotaging another thread with his copy and paste cutoffs that can be compiled into a single post.

 

Way to go Duke, sabotage this thread as you have sabotaged every other single thread around here with your abominable copy and pastes for the last year and half. No wonder this place has become a dump.

[General Duke]

On the domestic front, cynicism and disillusion reigned.

Foreign aid, especially that meant for the overestimated but none the less enormous refugee population, came to be the national staple and humanitarian aid groups, and their protectors, a second government. For the West this was expensive and could not go on for ever. Official meetings with the ageing president, however, developed into tireless monologues and on occasion into degrading diatribes. A diabetic insomniac and a chain smoker, Siad frequently kept his weary ministers and officials up until dawn to no avail. Morale collapsed.

 

Meantime, greedy relatives and hangers-on occupied themselves by securing ever more uneconomic loans, foreign exchange advances and unfulfilled contracts.

 

They poached and destroyed wild fauna on a prodigious scale, not only in Somalia but across her borders in Ethiopia and particularly Kenya. The trade in ivory was so vast and profitable that Siad's own family became deeply involved. Siad himself was not, however, much interested in amassing personal wealth, but he could be

vindictive to anyone who opposed any member of his wider family.

 

The majority of the people had never been much impressed by the pomp and circumstance of state occasions. Despite popular toleration of gymnastic displays and spurious cultural shows, the ever popular traditional poets had as often as not paid scant respect for

''Afweyne''.

But the machine- gunning of herds of domestic animals and the poisoning of wells was totally alien. Thus Siad's secret policies of divide and rule broke down. At home he simply ran out of clans. and even the heretofore quiet deserted him. Abroad too - China, Libya, South Africa and (regrettably) Italy apart - he ran out of allies. Despite the natural timidity of the Department of State (its human rights desk quite excepted) the Congress was adamant: no human rights: no aid.

[ElPunto]

I wonder how many people were jailed unjustly, tortured, disappeared or were murdered during the civilian administration. Forget about the atrocities that happened in the late 80s during last parts of Barre's reign. If that is the price of all the progress Jalle Siyad made than count me out.

[Emperor]

Horn, No wonder you make full use of the facility and yet call it dump, how ungreatful to the provider of the service....

 

Soo intaa ma aadan rabin awalba Hornow, sankaad naga galisay then take the bullets brother, xamil bahasha your great hero's full history will be presented no need to squable...

 

Hada anna masoo bandhigaa howlihi fiicnaa ee uu Odaga kaqabtay Somalia iyo taariikhdi uu dhigay?

[General Duke]

How am I sabotaging it. Its all about Siyad Barre adeer. Not from Duke and Co , but from the Independent, NYTIMES etc,etc.

 

As 1990 drew to a close, angry rebels infiltrated the Somali capital to confront the heavily armed presidential guard (the red berets) drawn to a man from Siad's own Sub-clan clan.

 

Confronted by guerrilla groups and rebellious clans -, Siad found that it was in fact the Somali peoples' God-fearing love of freedom and what has been aptly termed a culture of pastoral democracy, that brought him to the road's end.

He dispatched most of his relatives to enjoy their often ill-gotten gains in their villas abroad, himself

taking refuge in a bunker close by the capital's airport and the coral coastline of the Indian Ocean; the prelude to his last days in power. 'Mighty Mouth': over 20 years' rule, Siad led Somalia from Socialist experiment to dictatorship

Copyright 1995 Newspaper Publishing PLC

The Independent

January 3, 1995, Tuesday

[Faarax-Brawn]

Originally posted by Ojelle:

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how could you be against Siyaad Barre while you praise Yey everyday?

Here is a multiple choice to the above question:

a) Yey is related to him & Siyad Barre wasnt?

b) There is a political rivalry between Siyad Barre's clan & Yey's sub-Clan?

c) Because Duke's sub-clan was defeated from their "ancestral" home of Kismayo?

d). All of the Above

[Ojelle]

Duke which one is it? I wana hear from you Duqa?

[Emperor]

Dilkii Culumada Soomaaliyeed

 

 

Sawiro ka sheekaynaya dilkii Culimadii Soomaaliyeed ee runta ka sheegay sharcigii dhaxalka ee ay dawladdii milateriga ahayd ee uu madaxwaynaha ka ahaa Maxamed Siyaad Barre ay ku soo rogtay dalkii Soomaaliya.

 

Dilkii Culimadan sawiradoodu kor ka muuqdaan iyadoo lagu fulinayo dilkii bahalnimada ahaa ayaa ay go'aamisay maxkamaddii milateriga ahayd ee u samaysnayd tirtiridda sharafta iyo milgaha umaddu lahayd ee ku aroorayay Diinta Islaamka ah ee ay 100% dadka Soomaalida ahi aaminsan yihiin. Maxkamaddaasi waxay dhacday maalin Sabti ah bisha Muxarramna ay ahayd 6 sanadkii 1395kii taariikhda Hijriyada, taasoo ku beegnayd 18kii bishii January sanadkii 1975kii. Culimadaas oo laga qabqabtay Masaajidada magaalada Muqdishu Salaaddii Jimcada ee maalinimadii ka horaysay maalintaa ay maxkamaddu dhacaysay.Xukunkaasina wuxuu u dhignaa sidani:-"Maxkamadda Badbaadada Qaranku waxay ku xukuntay lix ka mid ah culimada ka hor yimid xeerarkii ay xukuumadda kacaanka ahi soo saartay dil toogasho ah, waxa kale oo ay maxkamaddu ku xukuntay saddex ka mid culimada 30 sano oo xadhiga ah, laba kalana waxay ku xukuntay 20 sano oo xadhig ah".

 

Maalinimadii Axadda ee ay bisha Muxarram ahayd 7da sanadkii 1395kii , taasoo ku beegnayd 19kii January 1975kii waxay maxkamaddii milaterigu soo saartay go'aan kale oo u dhignaa sidan:-"Maxkamaddu waxay ku xukuntay 4 ka mid ah culimada dil toogasho ah,markii ay ka hor yimaadeen xeerarka cusub iyagoo isku qarinaya huga Diinta Islaamka, 3 kalana waxay ku xukuntay 30 sano oo xadhig ah, 15 kalana 20 sano oo xadhig ah".

 

Subaxii Khamiiseed ee ay bisha Muxarram ahayd 11ka sanadkii 1395kii, kuna beegnaa 23kii January 1975kii ayaa Idaacaddii Raadiyow Muqdishu laga sii daayay war argagax iyo cadho ku beeray shacabkii Soomaaliyeed, inkastoo aanay wax fal ah oo ay kaga hor tagayaan arrintaasi aanay waagaasi qaadin haddana qof kasta meel uu joogayba hoos u foorarsay.Warkii Radio Muqdishu sii daayay oo aad u koobnaana waxa uu u qorraa sidatan:-"Sida ay sheegayso wakaaladda wararka Soomaaliyeed ee SONNA waxaa saaka subixii dil toogasho ah lagu fuliyay 10kii qof ee ay maxkamadda badbaadada qaranku ku xukuntay dilka , waxaana lagu toogtay oo dilkaasi lagu fuliyay garoon u dhaw dugsiga booliska ee ku yaala xeebta badda, magacyadooduna waxay kala yihiin:-

 

1-Sheekh Axmed Sh. Maxamed

 

2-Sheekh Muuse Yuusuf

 

3-Sheekh Axmed Iimaan

 

4-Cali Xasan Warsame

 

5-Xasan Ciise Iley

 

6-Maxamed Siyaad Xirsi

 

7-Cali Jaamac Xirsi

 

8-Aadan Cali Xirsi

 

9-Saleebaan Jaamac Maxamed

 

10-Yaasiin Cilmi Cawil

 

Maxkamadda badbaada qarankuna waxay ku eedaysay dambiilayaashaasi horteedana ay kaga caddaatay in 10kaas eedaysane ay si wadajir ah uga hor yimaadeen xeerkii ay sida wadajirka ah iskugu raaceen kana soo baxay golaha sare ee kacaanka, iyo golaha wasiirada 11kii January sanadkii 1975kii, kaasoo ku saabsanaa sinnaanta ragga iyo dumarka, waxa ayna maxkamaddu u cuskatay xeerka lambarkiisu yahay 12 qodobkiisa 54aad ee soo baxay 10kii bishii 9aad sanadkii 1970kii".

 

Ilaahay ha u naxariisto culimadaas Shuhadada ah ajarkoodana Ilaahay innagama xarrimo. Aamiin.....Aamiin.

 

Xigasho:- Buugga la yidhaahdo Soomaaliya iyo xididada dhibaatada haysata ee uu qoray Dr. Cali Sh. Axmed Abokor.

 

F.G.Taariikhda Shuhadadii Muqdisho haddii aad hayso na soo gaadhsii mid ka mid ah xaattaa haddaad hayso. Mahadsanidiin.

[Ojelle]

^I thought this is against the site rule..........maaha?

[Emperor]

Khudbaddii Darteed Culimada Soomaaliyeed loo laayay

 

Akhristayaal halkanna ka dhagayso Khudbaddii uu jeediyay Maxamed Siyaad Barre, taasoo markii ay culimadu ka hor yimaadeen loo dilay 10ka wadaad ee kor sawiradoodu ku yaalaan markii la dilayay, khudbaddaas oo waxyaalo diinta ka hor jeeda oo aanay diintu oggolayn Eebbena aanu raalli ka ahayn ay ku jirto......Halkan ka dhagayso

 

Halkan kadhagayso Khudbadii uu Maxamed Siyaab Barre kutaxriifiyay Aayaha Quraanka

 

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[General Duke]

^^^Brother. Let me correct you.

1.Siyad Barre and the Duke are from the same clan.

2.Duke and Siyad's clan are still in Kismayu.

3. Siyad's failure effected the whole clans of Somalia and his and Dukes were cleansed out of their historical lands of Mogadishu.

 

Anyhow why Farax Brown are you against Yey?

 

A.That he was elected in an open election defeating, all of Farax Browns favourite warlords and clan men.

B. He started with nothing and yet managed skillfully playing everyone against each other to defeat the looters, clown courts and clan militias that Farax Brown seems to support and associates with, and now is in Mogadishu's villa Somalia.

C. That Farax Brown maybe hates Yey because he is from a certain SUB-clan noted for their political success from dawn of Somali politics till now?

D.All of the above?

[Faarax-Brawn]

^Emperor,I see you are following your Hero's footprints haye? Monkey see,Monkey do miyaa sheekada?

 

Misna waxee kaa tahay, Horn ka xanaaji? If so,Go ahead,I dont like his pretentious nacnac anyway