Saalax Posted February 2 With 40% of its original landmass missing (controlled by Khaatumo and Puntland), delayed elections, mass arrests & executions of civilians, committing genocide in Las Anod.In the remaining Somaliland on the western front (Awdal) there is tensions that could lead to another Las Anod like revolution. In the central part they are waiting for elections and if that doesn't happen it will likely lead to civil war. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted February 2 Somaliland deserved also prior to 2007 recognition Somaliland only conquered laascanood back in 2007 and Somaliland progress to statehood was also being fought for as far as the early2000s. Elections have always been delayed in somaliland political culture it isnt something new wish this culture could change we should make the presidency term 10 years . Besides the map is wrong Somaliland controls far more further in eastern ceerigabo district as far as Yube if not beyond , there is nothing happening in Awdal its just hersay .. Dont hate ur country Salax u might see ciiro becoming President of Somaliland the fight will remain the same those that cheer for u now will continue to hate Somaliland even when ciiro is president Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Illyria Posted February 2 A point of correction: SSC-Khatumo & Makhir territories are not disputed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saalax Posted February 2 2 hours ago, Illyria said: A point of correction: SSC-Khatumo & Makhir territories are not disputed. Well that is thanks to Khaatumo's defeat of Somaliland forces in Las Anod. It is a old map. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saalax Posted February 2 5 hours ago, Xaaji Xunjuf said: Somaliland deserved also prior to 2007 recognition Somaliland only conquered laascanood back in 2007 and Somaliland progress to statehood was also being fought for as far as the early2000s. Elections have always been delayed in somaliland political culture it isnt something new wish this culture could change we should make the presidency term 10 years . Besides the map is wrong Somaliland controls far more further in eastern ceerigabo district as far as Yube if not beyond , there is nothing happening in Awdal its just hersay .. Dont hate ur country Salax u might see ciiro becoming President of Somaliland the fight will remain the same those that cheer for u now will continue to hate Somaliland even when ciiro is president Somaliland has no democracy (that has been proven by multiple failed delayed elections, unlawful arrests of civilians and journalists). Since 2017 Somalia and Puntland state had held two presidential election/selections, while Somaliland is still stuck in 2017. The only thing Somaliland had it going for was the "democracy" thing and even if that disappeared. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted February 2 Somaliland never claimed to be a western democracy it does hold elections real elections not selections like the pirate enclave of fara taag, SL held electiond in 2021 parliament and local elections. So elections do happen its not a dictatorship we just have the tendecies that leaders extend their term for what ever reason hence why i suggest to make the presidential term 7 or ten years, To solve this issue Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arafaat Posted February 2 The assertion of Yufle ayaa joognaa, arming ciidamo madani (clan militias) and heshiis Ethiopia will be Somalilands survival, does reek of a past history in 1989s after the former regime lost control in much of the North, started arming clan militias, government army retreating to a few bases in the North and entering in to agreement with a even more desperate Derg regime in Ethiopia that was also on the brink of collapse. Now I am not equating Somaliland government to the former regime, but one has to admit that some of the recent actions and politics remind of those failed actions of a regime that has lost all touch with political realities. Xaaji, if one is really serieus about Somaliland, shouldn’t the priority and focus be on engaging with SSC-Khaatuma, working on reconciliation and the release of the prisoners? Instead spending all that energy on holding on to power and delaying elections, entertaining Abiy’s dreamed Red Sea and entertaining clan based defences of the state? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Illyria Posted February 4 On 2/2/2024 at 7:02 AM, Arafaat said: The assertion of Yufle ayaa joognaa, arming ciidamo madani (clan militias) and heshiis Ethiopia will be Somalilands survival, does reek of a past history in 1989s after the former regime lost control in much of the North, started arming clan militias, government army retreating to a few bases in the North and entering in to agreement with a even more desperate Derg regime in Ethiopia that was also on the brink of collapse. Now I am not equating Somaliland government to the former regime, but one has to admit that some of the recent actions and politics remind of those failed actions of a regime that has lost all touch with political realities. Xaaji, if one is really serieus about Somaliland, shouldn’t the priority and focus be on engaging with SSC-Khaatuma, working on reconciliation and the release of the prisoners? Instead spending all that energy on holding on to power and delaying elections, entertaining Abiy’s dreamed Red Sea and entertaining clan based defences of the state? Mate, You are asking rational, hard questions demanding rumination, but XX is not the type capable of absorbing them, let alone offer answers, and you may have to wait till a worthy secessionist have risen to the stage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted February 7 raage omaar dissagrees Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites