Oppressed Women in the West and Solu.

[Modesty]

Oppressed Women of the West and theSolution

 

The sexual revolution in the 70's seemed to have brought a new phase inwomen's lives. The new picture is of a woman who is liberated from the kitchensink, a woman who is on equal footing with the man. The dark age of oppressionseems to have disappeared. But has it?.

 

On the i4th of October 1992 a man was raped in Hampstead at rush hour at 6:30pm. Officially that made it 8 reported cases of violent rape. lt is acceptednow that there is no security for men and women in this western civilisedsociety. but what is worse is that the public reacted with immense shock at thediscovery of "men rapes", as if it is acceptable for a woman to be raped (onceevery two and a half hours in Britain. once every 6 minutes in the USA).

 

The number of women reped increases every year and the measures taken to solvethe problem include defence classes or putting more lights in the street.which are solutions that accept the existence of the problem. and do not go tothe root of the problem. This is the same as treating hair loss that acancer's patient is suffering from. but the cancer is still there. and in thiscase it is the attitude and the lifestyle in the west. a lifestyle which adoptsthe concept that life is short and people should have the "freedom" to "enjoy"themselves.

 

But to have maximum freedom leads to the abandonment of any restrictions andthe goul becomes attaining pleasure at any cost. In a survey done at an American college (UCLA) and later at Cambridge University. 33% of the male students said that they would rape a woman if they could get away with it. 58%said they would "force" a woman into having sex. Thus the concept of freedomand enjoyment dominates the society regardless of the consequences.

 

Youmight think that this is extreme. that the idea of rape cultivates in the sickminds of a minority in the society, but the fact is that this idea lives in theminds of your average decent guy: the fact is that 88% of the woman raped knowthe attacker. and most of the time the rape happens when they are on a date.But men can claim that rape and the increase in rape is a result of the waywomen look and dress. and in the general way they attract attention tothemselves. We are not here to prove or disprove this claim. but we certainlyneed to look at how women live their life, and why they live it in such a manner.

 

IF we look at the woman in today's society, we see that she lives by standardsimposed on her by the society, and the media. Is her role the glamorous careerwomen who has to look like a model all the time? Does she get away from thefact that if she is fat, which, is incidentally a natural physiologicalprocess, then she is ugly, just to conform to the society's concept of beauty(although beauty is in the eye of the beholder).

 

We see that women arebombarded by images of models, who's weight is 23% lower than the averageweight of a women; models who have the highest paid profession (not for skillsor mind), a profession that opens them to exploitation of all kinds. Theirbodies are being used by the media to sell various "items" such as a bar ofchocolate or a car.

 

The reality is that women are over-sensitive to their appearance. In onestatistics it was found that 75% of women were either starting a diet. Finishing one, or just giving up on one. You find that if women are notexercising or involved in a diet then they are talking about dieting, ratherthan talking about real issues such as the social or economic problems. Itdoes not stop it this.

 

In a world where millions are dying at starvation inAfrica and Asia. You find that I50.000 women die every year in America,because of a disease called Anorexia nervosa. i.e they die becouse they don'twant to eat!! Just imagine saying that to a lady in Somalia. What is worsethough, is that this fact about Anorexia nervosa, is not a headline the same way the Aids is, although the number of people who die from Aids in 177countries is less then the number which die, of Anorexia nervosa, in one yearin one country (America).

 

The idea of freedom and benefit comes up again.Looking at a few statistics we see that it is the freedom to exploita women's body to gain the most financial benefit. For example with $33 billion p.a. diet industry at stake. it is not surprising that the abuses of dietingare not discussed. With a $20 billion p.a. cosmetics and a $7 billion p.a.pornographic industry at risk, it is not surprising that the exploitation of awomen's body is not challenged.

 

From the standpoints of freedom and enjoyment, the statistics of rape areacceptable to men. From the standpoints of freedom and benifit, the idea thata women is only looked upon according to parts of her anatomy is acceptable tothe media and big businesses. BUT WHY SHOULD THESE STANDPOINTS BE ACCEPTABLETO WOMEN WHEN IT OPPRESSES THEM?

 

Solution: Islam

Source:www.angelfire.com/bc3/johnsonuk/eng/dawa/west.html -

[Reality Check]

Freedom and injustice (in this case, rape) is two different things. Yes, women should be able to exercise her god-given freedom to earn income and practice religion. You don't need the west or the east to "give" you these personal freedom. Having a career does not increase "rape", contrary to popular belief.

 

The problem is not that women have too much freedom and therefore leads to these "rapes" but that men still have that mentality that raping women is acceptable to them. Infact, the actual problem is that men feel this way when they shouldn't be. The solution should be to "fix" this problem. Even if Islam is the solution, women still get raped by muslim men. And majority of them are raped by men who are related or are family friends. Therefore, being muslim still does not change the mindset of these sick individuals.

 

Needless to say, exploitation of women's bodies does exist in this society. But that is no excuse for men to be raping women or even thinking about it.

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[rudy-Diiriye]

now i have been accused many a times of smoke stuff!! even though i am innocent of IT!!

 

but u 2, really worry me now!! r u 2 from the West

is my question? does this really concern xalimo right now?

 

NOPE!

[Reality Check]

rudy,

 

why don't you think this issue does not concern "xalimos" right now?

[rudy-Diiriye]

is it me or the chinese food that i am eating! may be u should read your thread Opi! u r accusing of mens raping womens!! :mad: plz dont trust everything u read! some stuff is published purely for profit/boast of circulation!!

 

i am just righting the wrong, Opi.. q's, do u know of any farah who raped a xalimo lately...!!

[LuCkY]

Dang!Rudy this is the third topic i read...and man you just seem to be out of it...whats up with you? :confused: :confused: :confused:

[rudy-Diiriye]

lucky! welcome sista!!

u know, i dont tow no line! otherwise, whats the difference between me and the sheep!! just baaaa!

no! i am just expressing my constitutional rights!

and its called free speech!!!

 

i cant never be a$$ kisser!! i hope same 4 u either!!... catch u later!! me go home, looks rain!

me cant drive in rain! so i betta be safe & run!!.

1st rain in LA this yr so traffic is gonna be like hell!!

[LuCkY]

Thnx for the weLcome rudy but honestLy i dont quite understand what you wrote...so care to expLain? :confused:

[Qac Qaac]

I just wanna play, a devil's advocat here and say, let's say it is 10pm at night, there is a homeless guy who always sleeps in the park late at night, and there is this woman who is running around to be fit, with short stuff, and tight shirt, and the man let her go the first 2 nights, but the third night he couldn't take it, he wanted to get that woman, and he raped her, i know it is the man who did the act, BUT R U SAYING THAT WOMAN DIDN'T PROVOKED IT,

 

u can't walk around half naked infornt of men, all the time and tease them like this, and expect that no one will touch you, that is why woman wear hijab, hello.

 

men are weak, that is the reason why woman wear hijab, see men doesn't wear hijab coz the women would not rape every guy they see, they are more controlled, take any psychology class they will teach u this. allah knew this long time coz he created us, that is why he makes those kind of rules ok. allah The Just.

[Reality Check]

Originally posted by Qac Qaac:

men are weak, that is the reason why woman wear hijab, see men doesn't wear hijab coz the women would not rape every guy they see, they are more controlled,

lol I thought men were supposed to be the stronger sex? Now it seems women are more controlled? hmm...

 

In any case, Men being weak is a socially learned thing when it comes to sex. You have been trained to think that way. When a woman walks in front of you with a short skirt, are you going to behave like an animal and rape her? because she was wearing a short skirt and ASKED for it? no hon, thats not a likely story. Truth is, majority of the women get raped by family members, family friends, friends, etc..someone close to home. No woman runs around at 10 pm in the park. Pls, bruh!

 

The problem: men "learn" to be weak.

Solution: educate them

[Reality Check]

double post :cool:

[Valenteenah.]

Originally posted by Qac Qaac:

I just wanna play, a devil's advocat here and say, let's say it is 10pm at night, there is a homeless guy who always sleeps in the park late at night, and there is this woman who is running around to be fit, with short stuff, and tight shirt, and the man let her go the first 2 nights, but the third night he couldn't take it, he wanted to get that woman, and he raped her, i know it is the man who did the act, BUT R U SAYING THAT WOMAN DIDN'T PROVOKED IT,

 

u can't walk around half naked infornt of men, all the time and tease them like this, and expect that no one will touch you, that is why woman wear hijab, hello.

There's no excuse whatsoever for the act of rape. Ever. Furthermore, using the "Men are weak" line is just repulsive (whether your playing devil's advocate or not). The difference between humans and animals, is the very fact that humans can think and can control themselves, and that ultimately, each and everyone of us is responsible for our actions (except for certain ppl).

 

So what does the above post imply? That men are no better than barnyard animals in controlling their desires? That they are not accountable for their actions? Because they were provoked by the woman! Yeah...if only I could use the same excuse for committing murder. :rolleyes:

 

Its this mentality that plays a big role in condoning sick crimes such as rape. "Oh yeah, the woman was asking for it". What if she wasnt wearing a short skirt and running around a dark park as you put it? What's the excuse then? The fact that she's alive and a female? What about the high level of rapes in Muslim countries where wearing the hijab is mandatory?? Yeah...it happens there too. I would like to hear what your take on that is....other than denial.

 

It makes me feel physically ill when scenarios, such as the above one, are painted as some sort of justification for such horrendously evil acts. Acuudu bilaah.

 

 

Excuse me, while I go throw up my lunch.

[Qac Qaac]

once again i see the girls are talking out of emotions, anyways me and opinionated exchanged couple of unpleasent remarks, and i am not intend to go to another one with her, coz as i said to her, before i really think she sees the world black and white, in this case men and women.

 

now for u british lady Bee, u r right, and remember what i said on top, is that still it is the man's fault, but i said who provoked it ok. don't quote my things out of proportion ok.

if u r saying men are animal, and women always fall for them, then women should be less than man.

 

so no name calling for a whole sex, ok. we are here to exchange our opinions,

 

opinionated u said, women are raped mainly their family members well, where are those stats coming from, we don't one , one rare case that happened we are talking about majority, so pls enlighten us with some facts ok.

 

now if i go back to my topic, women wear hijab coz they are beautiful creatures to men, and allah knew this, that is why islam always separates women and men, coz islam prevents things before it happen, but in west, they know better atleast that is what they think, and guess what they are suffering the most. in muslim countries it is very rare that somebody rapes a woman, it only happens civel war times, but in here western countries they do it coz they enjoy it.

[Baashi]

Humans are different from animals for they are endowed the faculty of knowledge. Rape is an act condemned by all men at all time - throughout history -present and past.

 

This article doesn’t do justice to the position of Islam on Rape for it gives currency to the notion that depicts men and women as lions and lamps in the same fence. Rational of this notion is that if we are to prevent lamps to be eaten by the lions we ought to separate from each other or have the lamps put straight metal jacket on. It puts the burden on the lamps always. No!

 

Rape is a societal problem as stealing, slander, and murder are. It is a crime. There are coherent laws put in place to deter and punish the transgressors and to protect the victims. While the criminals bear the full weight of the law, the members of the society are expected to be prudent. To be sure, your assets are safe from criminals for instance, it is prudent to hide it or secure it. In other words, don’t neglect your assets. Not that negligence would excuse thieves but you are better off if u take the neseccary precautions to protect it.

 

The same analogy can be made about denying opportunity to perverts. Not they are weak or their acts are excusable but their existence is good enough to be vigilant. To be safe u might not want to hang out with a drunker after hours. We all have compelling interest to look after our safety.

[rudy-Diiriye]

hmm! opi & her gang! just dont believe that weak thingy! cuz i dont want u folks start thinking like americans and plant your heads with a wholetta nonsense, like Rape, Domestic violence and baloney like that! which is punch of crock invented by scum bag lawyers to have remote control to your pockets.

 

so sista, relax, take a deep breath, and get the food for your husband!!lol.... :rolleyes:

 

why trip so hard! u know the fact!!