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9 hours ago, Arafaat said:

 

Xaaji, this is well be a war of Somali’s against Xabashi’s. Even if they remain across the border it’s a tactic of support and declaration of war by Xabashi stooge. 

SSC Khatuma better start asap to raise man and money from broader Somali population, incl many people from Somaliland will fight on the right side of history as this will be a Xarbi for survival of the Somali people and Somali territory in the North. 

 

If Muuse Muqayil allows this to happen gleefully, it will one of the most shameful move by any Soomaali ever did. I have no doubt he will try though, unless his tol's leaders forcibly stop him. He thinks Xabashis u aargudi doonaan Sool utter humiliation.

Even C/llaahi Yuusuf, while in Adisababa, refused to allow Xabashis capture parts of Mudug by using his SSDF in 1980s. They then jailed him.

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yes but cabdilahi Yusuf  used xabashis to  settle score with the demolition crew in 2006 so that was justfied mala  

 

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this is so true Hassan sheikh knew about everything and all he pissed of about was  why didnt i sign it its all about ego .. he is not principally against it but waxa weeye maxaan anigu xaqu al qalam u qaadan waayey , also this hororufadhi guy made also some other valids points . How hassan refused to let the Ethiopian troops leave Somalia alltogether

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6 hours ago, Xaaji Xunjuf said:

yes but cabdilahi Yusuf  used xabashis to  settle score with the demolition crew in 2006 so that was justfied mala  

 

You know quite well that nearly every Somali opposed this back then, even on this Forum and vilified his government for it, in fact this backfired giving birth to AS, HAG politics, dowladii Asmara, suicide bombings, and many other negative repercussions. So don’t try using aun AY government as excuse to justify something that one cant even grasp of its consequences. 

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7 hours ago, Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar said:

If Muuse Muqayil allows this to happen gleefully, it will one of the most shameful move by any Soomaali ever did. I have no doubt he will try though, unless his tol's leaders forcibly stop him. He thinks Xabashis u aargudi doonaan Sool utter humiliation.

Even C/llaahi Yuusuf, while in Adisababa, refused to allow Xabashis capture parts of Mudug by using his SSDF in 1980s. They then jailed him.

I don’t think his toll have much of influence on him. Laakin Ingriis aya laga yaaba ina wax laga maqlo . 

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45 minutes ago, Arafaat said:

You know quite well that nearly every Somali opposed this back then, even on this Forum and vilified his government for it, in fact this backfired giving birth to AS, HAG politics, dowladii Asmara, suicide bombings, and many other negative repercussions. So don’t try using aun AY government as excuse to justify something that one cant even grasp of its consequences. 

That is not true there were many Somalis who believed Abdilahi Yusuf Ethiopian use in Somalia was justified maybe u havent been on this forum that long Arafaat.  Allot of puntlanders believe that  it was completly justified to use the TPLF then regime of Ethiopia to come and fight the ICU islamic courts union and also to settle some tribal score with the HAGites communities in Mogadishu.. This was in the open there were people on this forum maybe u remember him he was called General duke who supported the Ethiopian incursion through thick and thin and called the ICU the clan courts  and there are many other somalis inside somalia and outside in the diaspora who raised money for the then TFG the tigrayan funded government back then. They also believe the SFG that exists today  waxa dhashay the TFG and that Abdilahi Yusuf is the new father of the nation as he was the first to sit in villa Somalia after the late General afweyne was deposed back in 1991. Back in 2006 the Somalis were divided along clan lines the HAGITES were with Alshabaab muqawaamo ICU the Ars . Wher as the puntlanders and some of the gedo community were with Abdilahi Yusuf.  only Somalida ka so jeeda Itoobiya gaar ahaan beesha caga bal balaadh sided with the Shabaab and the icu led by hassan turki the rest were behind Cabdilahi Yusuf aka habaar qabihi Mudug.So dont tell me that  majority of Somalis opposed him when infact it was  pretty equally divided. if cabdilahi Yusuf was bad and was traitor why did sheikh dalxiis and all the others that were in the bunker after him  paid their respect when he was laid to rest in Galkacyo. Adigu nin dambiile qaran oo khaayin al wadan ah aaskiisa ma tagi lahayd wa mayaa but they dont think he was a traitor at all. So i am not justifying anything i am opposed to ina bixii using xabashi xiiniyo to karbaash the garaad clan i find that weak and he should never do that . And he will be hated by the SL public if he goes that path. But if he goes and gets his revenge for the ugly defeat of 25 august and he recaptures laascanood with his own xiiniyo and defeats the garaado and their khatumo state he will be considerd a hero who corrected his mistake how ever if he uses xabashi he will be seen as weak and a fulay .

 

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Xaaji iminka ma waxa leedahay aun Abdillahi Yusuf ayaa Xabashi keenay magaalo madaxda Muqdisho sida dowlada Federaalka loo fadhisiiyo, taas ayaa marka SL regime u noqonisaa justification iney yaduna Xabashi u isticmaasho weerarka Khaatuma. dad joogaa deegaankoodi?

Bal na fahansii caqligan, iyo sidan wax isku bar bar dhisid? 

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Maya ma odhan Anigu ma odhan  taas aya justify garanaysa   Sawnigi ku yidhi ma tageersani in xabashi  loo isticmaalo   Reer laascanood.   Balse  waxan ka hadlayney in somalida koonfurts dhibaato u arag in xabashi dhulkooda joogta laakin way baroortan when ever hear somaliland ba itoobiya wax ka faiida   Way so cararan maha itoobiya diid se wa Somaliland xaasid and that is the point   Ya sadexaad qodobka kale  somalida koonfurtu way tageeran itoobiyaanka inay dhulkooda joogan marba siday wax uga faiiidayan wa all  fake. Nationalist 

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Ruto uses back channels to ease Ethiopia, Somalia tensions 


Sunday March 3, 2024


Ethiopia Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed (L) and President William Ruto holding talks at state house Nairobi, Kenya on February 28, 2024. PHOTO | PCS

Kenya’s President William Ruto has engaged a higher gear for back channels to ease tension between Ethiopia and Somalia, motivated by business fervor in both countries.

And, from this week, both Addis and Mogadishu are expected to tone down their public rhetoric against each other, sources privy to the discussions indicated.

President Ruto hosted both Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed of Ethiopia and Somalia President Hassan Sheikh Mohamud, who were in Nairobi on different missions. Dr Abiy was on a state visit while Mohamud was attending the sixth session of the United Nations Environment Assembly (Unea-6) at the Unep headquarters in Nairobi.

Security and economic issues in the Horn of Africa featured prominently in their respective meetings with the Kenyan leader.

“The two leaders discussed ways and means to expand close partnership on a wide range of issues, including further developing bilateral economic and security ties to the benefit of both the people of Somalia and Kenya,” said a dispatch after Dr Ruto and Mr Mohamud met at State House, Nairobi.

Diplomatic sources told The EastAfrican, Kenya’s desire was to ensure the dispute between Ethiopia and Somalia does not boil over. Since January, Addis Ababa and Mogadishu have bickered publicly after Ethiopia signed an MoU to access the sea with Somaliland, a breakaway region whose independence from Somalia has never been recognised abroad.

Kenya tried to mediate but Somalia declined to hold any talks until Ethiopia ditched the MoU. Ethiopia insisted, however, that the pact was for business reasons, not annexation of Somali territory.

By Thursday night when both leaders departed Nairobi, the consensus was that they should no longer discuss it in public.

“It is important that they do not raise tensions by continually criticising each other in public,” said a diplomatic source familiar with the back channels. “There will be a meeting in the near future at a venue to be agreed so that we continue engaging.”

Ruto’s intent to resolve the issue was clear when he met with Abiy Wednesday. A dispatch from the meeting said they had agreed to respect sovereignty and territorial boundaries of peers in the region, a revealing decision for the Horn of Africa.

Meeting at State House, Nairobi, the two leaders vowed to maintain peace, security and stability within the continent “as a necessary condition for economic growth and development,” a joint communique stated, without referring to the Somalia issue by name.

“Accordingly, they affirmed their commitment to recognise, respect and uphold sovereignty and territorial integrity of state, and to reject unconstitutional changes of government as well as interference in domestic political processes of African countries by external interests.”

After their respective trips to Nairobi, Abiy left for Dar es Salaam while Mohamud left for Antalya, Turkey.

But the Nairobi Declaration may be both face-saving and self-shielding, especially for the Ethiopian side. It could be a political coup for Nairobi, which sees the tiff as an opportunity to enhance its diplomatic credentials, while tying both countries to better relations for its own commercial interest.

Win-win-win outcome

For Ruto, respecting territorial integrity pleases Somalia but also ensures Kenya’s offer for Lamu port is the most immediate alternative to Ethiopia’s ambitions for sea access.

Diplomatic sources indicated that Ethiopia already feels it has sacrificed substantially for Somalia’s stability already including deploying troops and cooperating on border security and hence shouldn’t be suspected of trying to dismember Somalia.

In truth, Somalia has bickered with both Ethiopia and Kenya in the recent past, alleging interference in its internal affairs as well as territorial integrity.

Somalia even sued Kenya and won at the International Court of Justice over a maritime boundary. Yet both Nairobi has lately been instrumental in pushing for Somalia’s admission into the East African Community, seeing it as an important step to help it rebuild.

Yet that declaration too was self-shielding for Ethiopia. Facing constant internal rebellions from militias, Ethiopia has been forceful in cracking them down, earning itself criticism from mostly Western countries on human rights violations especially the detention of journalists.

The visit was significant to iron out forgotten issues between the two sides. They said they will enhance bilateral cooperation in trade, investment, agriculture, tourism, health, fisheries and transport.

Dr Abiy had arrived in Nairobi Tuesday evening and was received in person by his host at Jomo Kenyatta International Airport, the first time Ruto has done so to a leader of another country. They exchanged a camaraderie hug in the rain before moving to other routine rituals for arriving leaders at the airport.

After their meeting, they re-announced exemption of Ethiopians from paying the fees for an online visitor arrival management system, known as ETA.

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SL MPs attacked for opposing the infamous MoU. So much for a democracy, stability, freedom of speech, and immunity for MPs.

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Madaxweynaha Turkiga oo sheegay inuu ka qeyb qaadanayo dhex dhexaadinta Soomaaliya iyo Itoobiya 

 

Axad, Maarso, 3, 2024 (HOL) - Madaxweynaha dowladda federaalka Soomaaliya Xasan Sheekh Maxamuud ayaa magaalada Antalya kula kulmay dhigiiisa Madaxweynaha Turkiga Recep Tayyip Erdoğan.

kulanka oo ka dhacay Madasha Diblomaasiyadda ee Antalya, ayaa looga hadlay xoojinta xiriirka Turkiga iyo Soomaaliya, dadaallada ka dhanka ah argagixisada, iyo sidoo kale walaacyada gobolka iyo caalamka. 

Intii uu socday kulanka, Madaxweyne Erdogan waxa uu xaqiijiyey taageerada joogtada ah ee Turkiga uu siiyo Soomaaliya, isagoo si gaar ah diiradda u saaray xoojinta iskaashiga difaaca.

Madaxweyne Erdogan ayaa muujiyay inuu Turkigu diyaar u yahay in uu ka qayb qaato dadaallada dhexdhexaadinta ee lagu doonayo in lagu dhimo xiisadda Soomaaliya iyo Itoobiya.

Isaga oo ka hadlayay falalka gardarrada ah ee Israa’iil ay ka waddo dhulka Falastiin, Madaxweyne Erdogan waxa uu hoosta ka xarriiqay in lagama maarmaan ay tahay in la dhiso dawlad madax-bannaan oo Falastiiniyiin ah oo ku teedsan xudduudaha 1967 taas oo aasaas u ah nabad waarta.

Kulanka ayaa kusoo beegmay maalmo ka dib markii Soomaaliya iyo Turkiga ay kala saxiixdeen heshiis dhanka difaaca ah, iyadoo Soomaaliya ay doonayso in Turkiga uu difaaca amniga xeebaha Soomaaliya. 

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1 minute ago, Illyria said:

SL MPs attacked for opposing the infamous MoU. So much for a democracy, stability, freedom of speech, and immunity for MPs.

Where did u get that news from please share sources with us  by the way who attacked them and who were these xildhibaans  who supposedly were attacked be a bit more specific.

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