Somaliland and Ethiopia signs "Historic" MoU on access to Red Sea and Establishment of Naval Base

[maakhiri1]

 

 

[Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar]

1 hour ago, Che -Guevara said:

Speaking at the symposium, National Intelligence and Security Service Deputy Director General Sisay Tola said the country which had owned ports for thousands of years was made landlocked for the past three decades.

Maxaa naga quseeya anaga haddee bad lahaan jireen or not. Badda dadka ka qaatay ha ula tagaan. Why is Abiy Axmed scared of Afwerki? He knows inuunan ciyaar ciyaar ahayn.

Waxee ku kala tageen waa badda filaa and Afwerki realized all his saaxiibtinimo waa daneysi ahayd. Eritareeya bad ee ganacsinimo u isticmaalaan wey siin lahayd laakiin taas ma rabo Abiy. Neefka Muuse Muqayil wuxuu dadka beenta ugu aqrinaayaa bad ee ka ganacsadaan waaye.

Muuse is a threat to Soomaalinimo iyo jiritaankeeda. Because the moment these Xabashis and Oromo dhul bad helaan wey isbaalarin doonaan since meesha ahayn dhul la deganyahay. Just see what they did to Xarar, Diridhabo iyo inta u dhaxeysa Diridhabo iyo Jigjiga oo ah dhul la deganyahay.

[Che -Guevara]

MMA,

The repeated talk about history, population size, and supposed economic prosperity is meant to soften Somali's public reaction, and without pushback from the government, people eventually will get used to the words and the world will go with it since there is no pushback.

[Che -Guevara]

Amb. Abuker is the only competent Somali official out there.

 

 

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

How Hassan sheikh changed his tone the past few days

 

 

[Che -Guevara]

Ciil Walaal: Ismaaciil Cumar Geelle.

 

[Che -Guevara]

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[Xaaji Xunjuf]

6 hours ago, Che -Guevara said:

Imagine if ina cigaal succeeded he had a great plan for Somalis but the koonfurians always make the wrong decision.  Ina cigaal wanted to make the capital hargeisa not. Permanently but intay  xamar Degryse.    The Somali Republic would have had its first president ever from Somaliland. But Ilaahay banan qorin.

[Arafaat]

2 hours ago, Xaaji Xunjuf said:

Imagine if ina cigaal succeeded he had a great plan for Somalis but the koonfurians always make the wrong decision.  Ina cigaal wanted to make the capital hargeisa not. Permanently but intay  xamar Degryse.    The Somali Republic would have had its first president ever from Somaliland. But Ilaahay banan qorin.

Cigaal wanted a genuine reconciliation effort but was sabotaged and undermined by IOG, but also by  Calan Cas(today’s Kulmiye), Abdiqasim Salat and his warlord cliques.  The same folks that are in power today in Hargeisa, Mogadishu and Djibouti, and who have no desire for reconciliation, state building or stability of the region but are driven mainly and pre-occupied with robbing the few meager resources. 

The same folks that enter in to an agreement for reconciliation, and resolving things on Friday only to backstab and abandon their commitments before it’s even Monday. 

 

 

[Illyria]

The plan was to form a government in the N West and N East with Cigaal and C/llahi Yusuf consulted, as commissioned by the UN, under the aegis of David Stephen, then UNPOS Rep. The idea was presented to Cigaal & C/llahi Yusuf in '99, both of whom initially accepted in principle. Cigaal posited to consult political leadership in Hargeysa, who categorically rejected the plan. C/llahi Yusuf proposed Cigaal to assume the leadership role even with Hargeysa as the seat of future government. In the impasse, Stephen shared the idea with IOG, who jumped at it during his address at the UN. Carta was born, and the rest is history.

Fahad is neither well-briefed, seasoned, nor as informed of Somali political affairs, mostly past events, as he likes to present himself as a paragon of sound judgement, and a fountain of wisdom. Now, if some of the statements he is passing on as facts are as flawed, then one would want to ask: what else is he just conjuring up and passing on as facts?

Postscript:
In all seriousness, Cigaal was a divisive, opportunist, and murderous politician, one of the worse misfortunes that could have befallen upon Somali politics, incl. that of SL at the time, [the] architect of the single City state political quagmire, depriving other regions and cities, marginalising significant clans, only to serve his political interest, all of which are currently dogging SL, but none of his accolades would admit to that. Visit Burco & Berbera, and there his legacy shall greet you out in the open.

[Tallaabo]

7 minutes ago, Illyria said:

In all seriousness, Cigaal was a divisive, opportunist, and murderous politician, one of the worse misfortunes that could have befallen upon Somali politics, incl. that of SL at the time, [the] architect of the single City state political quagmire currently dodging SL, but none of his accolades would admit to that.

Spot on. Cigaal was at the centre of the Habro conflict in the 1990s. If he was given the leadership he would have recreated a despotic highly centralised dictatorship with Cabdilaahi Yuusuf who always wanted to be another Siyaad. We would have ended up with a mess just like the one we have got in Somaliland. I doubt non of the recent political advances made in the South like federalism would be possible if Cigaal and Cabdilaahi Yusuf succeeded in their endeavour. 

[Illyria]

Could have been disastrous, I agree, as that was during the incubation period of the bottom-up approach, which gave way to Federalism, with the biggest benefactors being conflict-ridden southern regions. Or could have been better in that many ensuing problems incl. the rise of al Shabab, the SSC conflict etc. could have been prevented. With its foibles, Federalism is a system, which could keep the nation in harmony, and sovereignty intact, till its people have politically matured, and set their differences aside.

 

To whom do you credit the federalist project in its original form (I do not think we could call what is being practised by Farmaajo & Xasan as that)?