Observer Posted March 28, 2003 recently i came across of an interesting book of 'African proverbs' unfortunately it is all on women, going through it I found it very amusing and satirical of women as well. I just wondered if any one have come across a proverb book written on men? it also gives a good analysis on how proverbs used in the olden days to suppress women to submit to the society. this book also calls proverbs "cream of language" but not all the contents were sweet cream!! so have a look at some of them for your amusement. .... Women is like the earth: everone sits down on her (Zaire) The man may be the head of the home, the wife is the heart. (Kenya) A wife is like an old cooking pot: you don't let your friend keep it for you. (Uganda) A women is like the merino sheep: her beauty is judged by the backside . ( lesotho/South Africa) Women is like a corn cob: you have no teeth, you hardly eat. (Gabon/Cameroon) Married women are like elephant tusks: you don't touch them. (Kenya) Never marry a women with bigger feet than your own . (Malawi/Mozambique) Women is a fire. If you have to, take a little. (Senegal) To bear a gril is to bear a problem. (tigrinya/Ethiopia) A women is like a shield: you call it light until you try it on. (Uganda) a women is more than her ; goats also have two. (Rwanda) Women are like earthenware plates: not to be thrown in the waste pit. (Kongo, Zaire) Your duty to your wife does not end with a cloth (baule, Ivory Coast) No girl ever died without being told: "Turn my way" (Rwanda ) Do not despise a woman you have not undressed (bemba, Zambia) The husband of a lazy wife : his nights are good his day bad. (Mali ) Believe a women's word the day after (Kenya) If your wife is unfaithful, it does not mean that you sleep alone, (Ashanit, Ghana) You can trust your brother, your father, your mother, but never your wife (Benin) Take a woman for what she is : a sister of the devil. (Yoruba, Benin) women without man is a field without seed. (Zaire) When a women makes the giant drum, it is kept in the man's room Women have no king (Bari, Sudan) . The hen knows when it is morning, but she looks at the mouth of the . (ashanti, Ghana) Beat your wife regularly; if you don't know why, she will (west Africa, possibly of Arab origin) A women knows her own husband but not his master. (Afar, Ethiopia) A women in trousers? what's dangling inside? (fon, Benin) siters dont take this seriously! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miriam1 Posted March 28, 2003 Ya rabil 3allamin! lol..those proverbs were almost all against women To bear a gril is to bear a problem. (tigrinya/Ethiopia) Take a woman for what she is : a sister of the devil These two proverbs shocked me the most.Talk about women being suppressed ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ariadne Posted March 28, 2003 Most of them either made me angry or even angrier, but I did like this one: "Women have no king" (Bari, Sudan) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gabbal Posted March 28, 2003 What about ones from Somalia? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Caveman Posted March 29, 2003 HornAfrique, Somali proverbs for woman is just as degrading as most of other African Proverbs. So, I am posting collections of them. I haven’t got the time to translate them to English. --- 1. Nin hooyo xumi, hore ma Socdo. 2. Naagi nimay legdaan, kama kacaan. 3. Naago been baa lagu soo xero geliyaa runna waa lagu dhaqaa 4. Habar fadhida legdini wax uga fudud 5. Habar caalweydey aleelo ku waalatay (i stil don't understand this one) 6. Naago waa u samir ama ka simir. 7. Rag-waa sima naayeen haween baase is dhaafshey ( My favorite ) 8. Naago waa belo loo baahan yahay. 9. Naagi nimay taqaan nin ma mooddo 10. Nin iyo naag is qaba colna ma aha nabadna ma aha. 11. Wixii xunba xaawaa leh 12. Habar jin hayaa in lala qabay moodaa 13. Habari-korisay hore uma maro 14. Habari curadkeeda cay uma quurto. 15. Naagaha iyo carruurtaba sasabaa lagu wadaa 16. Naago nimaan maddaxooda maja u rogin nin ma moodaan 17. Naago jilayc iyo naxariis midna wax kuma laha 18. Naag la furay fadhi uma yaal 19. Naagi naag lala qabo waa u col 20. Naago abaal ha u gelin amaahse ha u diidin 21. Nin waa inta naaga ka hadha 22. Naago wax laga bixiyey laguma dhaqo oo wax loo hayaa lagu dhaqaa 23. Naag kun baa koodisa ,kow baana guursada 24. Sir naagood lagama sal gaaro 25. Shir naagood oo shan dhaafay waa shar 25. Ma sugto, Meher ma leh. 26. Rag waa shaah dumarna waa sheeko 27. Gabadh nin dhali karaa dhiqi kara 28. Dumar yaryaraysi male 29. Dukhsi dantiisuu dumurka ugu jiraa. 30. Gabadhi waa meel xun joog. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Observer Posted March 29, 2003 Thanks for the enlightenment Caveman! I didnt know we had all this provebs in our language. I recall few of them but no nearly enough as you did. Anyways thanks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gabbal Posted March 29, 2003 Caveman I am aware that our proverbs are just as degrading as others, but when I asked oberver that question it was because I wanted to know if the book had proverbs from Somalis. Thanx. Naago waa u samir ama ka simir. looooooool, but true, sorry ladies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lefty Posted March 30, 2003 LOOOOOOOOL@Caveman.. you must be an expert of Somali proverbs, thanks for the collection. This one enlighted me somehow, I never heard it before! "25. Shir naagood oo shan dhaafay waa shar" " observer..Here is the one I like from ur list " Do not despise a woman you have not undressed (bemba, Zambia)"...it sounds very legitimate and very well...true.. However, I wonder why people associate women with evilness cause that's what the majority of these proverbs seem to.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCORPION_SISTA Posted March 30, 2003 hey observer that's interesting, sorry i can't read the somali ones right now, it may take me weeks to read them all but i would read them insha allah. As to ur question Lefty, maybe i think it goes back to the root of Adam and Eve. U know the believe in some religions such as christinaty that she was the reason they were kicked out of Heaven. So they associate the downfall of men to women. Because it's in women's nature sort of mentality. Women are viewed as the seductress or temptress that makes a men behave in ways that aren't good for them. I guess it could explain why for long times it was believed that women had no soul in some religion. At least that's my opinion!!!! bee bye. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LadyMo Posted April 1, 2003 I agree wiv Scorpion_Sista but I also think dat one of the reasons cud b dat women r seen as an object of lust and since acting out one's desires by takin it one step further is considered wrong (for all God-fearing people) I think they believe that women are the gateway between good and evil. Which is true to a certain extent coz it is said dat once ur married u have completed half of ur religion. My favorite is de one from Kenya; "The man may be the head of the home, the wife is the heart" I also like de humour of dis one; "A wife is like an old cooking pot: you don't let your friend keep it for you"-(Uganda) I cant help but think dis proverb is a reflection of their way of life, i.e lack of food possible starvation? Just a thought. The South Afican one is by far de funniest; "A women is like the merino sheep: her beauty is judged by the backside" It just proves dat The Western World is soo against our (Africans) curvaceous bodies dat they have created their own 'look' "Naago jilayc iyo naxariis midna wax kuma laha" How else r we supposed to cope?? especially as, "Naag kun baa koodisa ,kow baana guursada" I strongly believe the reality of this proverb has shifted; "Rag waa shaah dumarna waa sheeko" I think its completely the other way around today! So, rag waa sheeko, dumarna waa shaah! wat do u say? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites