Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar Posted November 19, 2010 Originally posted by The Zack: I have to agree with Naxar on this, most Somalis use the "dh" over the "r" in these kinds of words/names. Galaydh, it is.. As for the topic, Galaydh made a good point. Somalia's new cabinet consist of well-educated and heavy weight personnel. Yee yihiin the 'most Soomaalis'? Intaa ogahay Galeyr isticmaalaan, waana sax, shimbirtaas galeyr u naqaanaa anaga. Using your logic, too, Gaheyr would have been Gaheydh, no? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Zack Posted November 20, 2010 Somalia waa Koonfur, Galbeed, Waqooyi, and Bari, sax? Seddexda danbe use "dh" and not "r". Tusaale, Galaydh, Gabadh, gaadhi, etc.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abwaan Posted November 20, 2010 Originally posted by Polanyi: Any reasons why Gabbal is now the biggest Sol supporter of the tfg? Waa su'aal da' weyn oo madaxa daalineysa ee aan u duceyno inuu dowladaha ka dambeeyana sidaan u taageero...lol for the Dh or r....Nebi Alloow ninba afkii kugu ammaan... Dowladda Farmaajo xubneheeda aqooni kuma yara, Ilaah haka dhigo mid waxqabadna ku darsata. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar Posted November 21, 2010 Originally posted by The Zack: Somalia waa Koonfur, Galbeed, Waqooyi, and Bari, sax? Seddexda danbe use "dh" and not "r". Tusaale, Galaydh, Gabadh, gaadhi, etc.. Yaa waaye sadexda? Reer Bari maa haddana isticmaalo 'dh' maa i dhihi rabtaa maanta? Reer Soomaali Galbeedkana xadkooda intuu ka bilowdaa kuna dhamaadaa? Certainly not kuwa dego Qalaafe, Mustaxiil, Dooloow, Wardheer, to name a few towns. Kuwaas lahjadooda kuma jirto 'dh.' Reer NFDna waaka tagtay, kuwaas kalena waa gooni. Mise Koonfurta ku dartay, waa Koonfur Galbeed kuwaas. Saa adi u aaminsantahay dadka kale haku qasbin. Sadex wax la dhaha iska yaree. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naxar Nugaaleed Posted November 21, 2010 Rer bari includes all the way from togdheer to sanaag and bari itself and yes they do pronounce certain words with DH rather then R. So let me break it down for you. 1.Jibuti= Af waqoyi 2.Galbet= Af waqoye (yes, most of them such as jigjigans dire dawans perhaps minus a few villages) Waqoye galbet= Af Waqoye 3.Bari regions= Af waqoye minus garowe (am assuming here) 4.central regions= Standrad Somali=they use northern words with southern pronunciation (Gaari rather then gaadhi, kirli rather then kidhli) 5.Banadir= ayuu nooc af Somali...Af xamari, standard, af bantu, ma tiri... 6.bay iyo Bakool=the sayid told us a long time ago these people neither speak Somali nor af gaalo 7. Jubaland=mostly standard but contains small pockets of other languages 8. NFD= ilaah ba og umaadas waxay ku hadasho Do the math mr. MMA, the most commonly spoken would dialect is af waqoye but that was not my point. My point was that you people, yes you people write northern nouns as they are written and stop changing names. He is called Galaydh in the north were he is from so why not call the man by his rightful name? would it be too difficult to write Galaydh or Badhan rather then that afghan city baran. on a personal note, when I first came to columbus, a server once told me he did not muus only to serve the guy next to me moos, lol. I think I have earned the right to be so fastidious... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Zack Posted November 21, 2010 MMA, are u kidding me? Somalis in east africa are estimated to be about 20M. About 5m of them live in Ogdenia and more than 90 percent of those use "dh" in their dialect . Bari and Waqooyi combined are also more than 6m, those also would never say "galayr". You following me so far? The entire country of Djibouti is on the same boat as the above two. The same applies to Gedo, Galgaduud, and Mudug. Those combined make roughly more than 65% of the Somali population. And to answer your other question, yes reer bari use "dh". As a matter of fact they even kill words that should be pronounced as "r" with their funny "dh" accent. Tusaale: normally, you would say "ma iga tagi kartaa, walaal?" But they would say "ma iga tagi kaDHaa, walal?". So they love their "dh". A reer bari dude would never say "gabar baan rabaa!". LOL. And of course there are few bari/western towns that would always have different dialects than that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Zack Posted November 21, 2010 Naxar, Bay and Bakool speak good Somali duqa, they speak the MAY dialect of the Somali langauge. Adiga iyo saydka waad ku khaldan tihiin waxaad sheegteen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haatu Posted November 21, 2010 Naxar, people use 'r' in NFD. And what you said wasn't very funny. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hales Posted November 22, 2010 Zak@ whilst i agree that reer Bari use DH in many cases i have to correct you though on the population estimate of Bari and Waqooyi which is far off They do do not add up to 6m, by waqooyi i assume your reffering to the 'I' clan who at the most are 2.3M. Bari even at its highest estimate does not go past 1M. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Zack Posted November 22, 2010 Hales, so Duke's formula was totaly false? He told us that Puntland was one-third of Somalia LOL. Seriously sxb, are u saying that Somaliland along with most of Puntland are only about 3M? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hales Posted November 22, 2010 Lol@ 1/3 of Somalia Puntland including Sool and Sanaaq has the same population as 1990 Mogadishu. Awoowe Somaliland including Sool and Sanaaq is 3.7M +, Puntland although registered at 2.5 (including Sool and Sanaaq which are around 600,000) is really if you include the main clan, the clan from Goldogob and the Burtinle are around 1.8M max (likely lower). This is my estimate sxb. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Zack Posted November 22, 2010 Hales, Puntland with Sool and Sanaag have 1 million population? Ma waalan tahay sxb, go back to those figures... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NGONGE Posted November 22, 2010 Pulling numbers out from thin air has become a national sport around these parts. I mean only yesterday did a certain Nomad tell me that Qardho's population (including the tourists) was 1/3 of Puntland. Ma run baa? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted November 22, 2010 Cashar yar Qolyaha Koonfurianska badh=bar bar = calaamad jidhka ku taala, ama tilmaam meel lagu tilmaansado badh= half of something jiidh = hilibka intiisa cas een baruurta ee aan baruurta lahayn jiir = mouse, dooli reer konfur HALKA NADIIFI OO XAAR mise HALKA NADIIFI OO XAADH afka aadamigu eeh basharku ku hadlo si uu u tisqaado waa in uu kala soocnaada oo waxaad sheegaysaa aan wax kale loo malayn. wixii san iyo wixii xumi si loo kala garto waa in ay kala dhawaaq ahaadaan. Ereyada wixii isku asal ahi dhawaaq iyo ereyba way wadaagi karaan laakin laba ficil oon is-fal gelin erey ma wadaagi karaan isku dhawaaqna ma noqon karaan tusaale imika hadii aan ku idhaa Hebelow orod oo HALKA NADIIFI OO XAADH iyo HALKA NADIIFI OO XAAR iyamaa weedh faa'ido leh oo qof miyirqaba yidhi lagu sheegi karaa afsomaligu wa midho lugu wada hadlo yaan la isku qaldin. (xaadh - xaar)-(gogola xaadh - gogol xaar)(xeedho - xeero). labadan erey waxay samaynayaan micne aad u kala gedisan. waxa jira ereyo english ah oo erey lamid ah oo french ama dutch aad aragtid oon isku micna ahayn, sidaas oo kale ayuu afsomaliga Waqooyi iyo konfur mararka qaar aad moodaysaa. (waxaan se iswaydin mudan weedha gogol xaadh ma adeegsan somalida koonfureed) ereyada Dadka loo adeegsado ----------------------------------- Gabadh - Gabdho = woman and women ('gabadh' somalida Waqoyi, Itoobiya iyo jabuuti waxay u yaqaanan gabadha guur soo martay ama ha la qabo ama carmal/garoob ha noqoto midkay doonto. laakin Koonfurta Gabadh waxaa looga yaqaana ilma aad dhasho ee dhedig ah 'waa arin af kala qaad ah') Waxa jira aduunweynaha qowmiyado iyo qabiilo badan oo luqad afkooda iyo carabkood ku qallaad ka dhigta, luqadooda 1aad. tusaale waxaa inoogu filan Jamaica waxay ku hadlaan english, laakin waxaa ku dhex jira oo ka buuxa ereyo ku abtirsada galbeedka africa oo ah dhalasho ahaan halkay (Jamaicans) kasoo jeedan. dhawaaqi afkay qaaten(english) oonay ereyga dhawaaqisi saxna ku dhawaaqi karayn. taasi waxay sababtay afkii ay qaaten in uu dhalangedismo. hadaba ma laga yaaba in afsomaligu dad la'dhashay!, dad kalena sidaa jamaican ugu barbaaren English ee hadana afkoodi hooyo iyo english-ta isku qasayaan, ay iyaguna afsomali iyo af-gudhuu kale isku qasaan ooy u yaqaanan afsomaligii saxnaa. Anaga afsomaliga naga barta dhaxal awoow weye ku dhawaaqida afsomaliga Macalinka afsomaliga Xaaji Xunjuf. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites