Is Somaliland the cause of this chain reaction........

[AfricaOwn]

Puntland, Jubbaland, Makhtair and etc? And they all have "Land" at the ending? But unlike SL secessionist, these other "states" supposed to be part of Somalia? We all know about SL situation, but I always wondered how these other "states" established their borders? Some enlighten me in this.

[NGONGE]

Somaliland is the only one that openly seeks secession. However, if Somaliland is finally recognised internationally do you think all these entities will sit back and still claim to be part of Somalia?

 

The borders are all probably just random.

[AfricaOwn]

Why should all these entities follow SL path? They are all for the unity of Somalia or at least that's what they claim right? The secessionist are at least honest about where they stand..You're either part of the Greater Somalia without these mini entities or you're not.

[RedSea]

^Good point.

[SomaliThinker]

secessionist, lol regardless if those other want to end with land in their names or be states good for them, but somaliland is moving on in its journey.

[Jacaylbaro]

Let the dogs park ,,, the bus will go on forever

[Baashi]

Originally posted by AfricaOwn:

Why should all these entities follow SL path? They are all for the unity of Somalia or at least that's what they claim right? The secessionist are at least honest about where they stand..You're either part of the Greater Somalia without these mini entities or you're not.

Laughable. But then again you are indicative of how grief stricken parents reliving in the past can brainwash seemingly intelligent grownup kids like you.

 

What has honest got to do with it? The fiefdoms you have in mind sprung up because the state has ceased to exist and what that happens something however mundane or mini or what have u will and do fill the vacuum.

 

By the way SL is another fiefdom mini state. What makes unique is 1)it wants to secede an 2) Its founders have put all their eggs in the colonial legacy basket.

[AfricaOwn]

Originally posted by Baashi:

quote:Originally posted by AfricaOwn:

Why should all these entities follow SL path? They are all for the unity of Somalia or at least that's what they claim right? The secessionist are at least honest about where they stand..You're either part of the Greater Somalia without these mini entities or you're not.

Laughable. But then again you are indicative of how grief stricken parents reliving in the past can brainwash seemingly intelligent grownup kids like you.

 

What has honest got to do with it? The fiefdoms you have in mind sprung up because the state has ceased to exist and what that happens something however mundane or mini or what have is will and do fill the vacuum.

 

By the way SL is another fiefdom mini state. What makes unique is 1)it wants to secede an 2) Its founders have put all their eggs in the colonial legacy basket.

Lets not focus on those that don't want to be part of the family first which is SL.

 

 

Try to get the rest of the country united first. Why are the residents of "Puntland" claiming LA is part of "Puntland"? Lets fight for LA because apparently most of the residents want to be part of Somalia. Those that support "Puntland" and at the same time say they're Somaliwayne supporters as are biggest lier and hypocrites.

[Baashi]

There is a nice movie making rounds in Theatres now. It is called Lions for Lambs by Bob Redford. Please go and see. It is not an sleezy kinda movie. Very simple, to the point, and only has three interwoven plots to make the poignant point.

 

Why? cuz it has something to do with how politics, wars, voter ignorance, political theatrics, and drama driven, nanosecond attention span news cycle, corporate owned media come into play in all of these things.

 

It is a brilliantly directed movie. Tom Cruise is repping the Neocons and he is giving voice to their world, Meryl Streep is repping as a reporter for big bad corporate and commercial driven media, and the big man Redford is that Prof who sees all but don't have what it takes to make any meaningful change.

 

And here is where you come in babe. Prof is putting all his hopes in his students. Two of them whom he has high hopes flip on him. In the name of Jingiosm and Pax Americana they want to defend the mother land by going to Afghanistan. One third of the movie is a convo between him and this bright student who figured all out but don't want to do anything about the mess he so clearly sees it. Prof wants to convince that kid to pay attention to the politics and the drivers instead of keep keepoing on in the way of whining and what not.

 

AfricaOwn you don't know me and I don't know you. We are conversing because we have (hopefuly) honest differences on secession. I oppose secession for a reason.

 

You said lets fight it out referring to a LA's debacle. Babe you are not doing any fight. And as wise Prof pointed out in the movie don't become a garbage (clan politics) consumer. Whatever you do DON'T support one side of the skirmishes between Somalis in that far away sand dunes. Don't do it plz. It is not right to cheer from here. Not right at all.