Ustaad Axmed Naaji passes away

[Illyria]

43 minutes ago, Arafaat said:

May Allah have mercy on him 

P.S. @Ilyria, as this is still the political section, I have to ask the obvious. Do u think federalism will be able to produce or enable artist, politicians, sportsman, writers and excellent in individuals like Ahmed Naaji aun, from the Xamari, Banadiri, Barawe, Mushungulis and other reer Beesani communities?  

Of course, and of those with genuine talent, even better, I believe, as young talent will be cultivated locally, and not overshadowed by talent at the federal level, the same way the likes of Qarshe, Xudaydi and walaalaha Hargeysa laid the foundation for modern music in Somalia, and spread it to the rest of the country. If anything, it would strengthen just the same way the likes of B Dillon, Prince, J Cash, Jacksons etc, from obscurity in rural America, had been nurtured locally prior to their  breaking to the national stage. I work, live, and do business in 4 States in the US, and other than property taxes, hardly notice the difference, with the exception of the expected, if obvious regional idiosyncrasies, which enrich States, just like regions in Somalia. But I get the sense you might think otherwise. Do tell.

I do not know if I did ask before: do you live, or ever lived in a country where Federalism is being practised i.e. US, Germany etc? In which country do you live?

[Arafaat]

6 minutes ago, Illyria said:

Of course, and of those with genuine talent, even better, I believe, as young talent will be cultivated locally, and not overshadowed by talent at the federal level, the same way the likes of Qarshe, Xudaydi and walaalaha Hargeysa laid the foundation for modern music in Somalia, and spread it to the rest of the country. 

Let’s see, I haven’t seen any talents from Beesani community in Somalia rising up since Federalism. 

[Illyria]

2 minutes ago, Arafaat said:

Let’s see, I haven’t seen any talents from Beesani community in Somalia rising up since Federalism. 

I see 3 on this stage. You must not be paying attention, and still listening to ilma Mooge.

 

[Arafaat]

4 minutes ago, Illyria said:

I see 3 on this stage. You must not be paying attention, and still listening to M Mooge.

 

Don’t know them and neither can judge their talents . Will let our resident urban cultural critic and Beesani spokesman (MMA) be the judge. 

[Illyria]

 

 

[Arafaat]

5 minutes ago, Illyria said:

 

 

Miss Laki rised and became well known while in the Diaspora and not while she was in Somalia, same for Didi Naaji. So I won’t count these, talking about home grown(federalist enabled) talent and not Diaspora residing YouTubers rising through online likes and clicks. 

[Illyria]

1 minute ago, Arafaat said:

Miss Laki rised and became well known while in the Diaspora and not while she was in Somalia, same for Didi Naaji. So I won’t count these, talking about home grown(federalist enabled) talent and not Diaspora YouTubers. 

Actually, she was a well known journalist based in Bosaso well before she became a singer, round the time she sang this song.

 

[Arafaat]

4 minutes ago, Illyria said:

Actually, she was a well known journalist based in Bosaso well before she became a singer, round the time she sang this song.

 

I am sure she lived and worked in Bosasso,  but she rised and became famous in the Diaspora. We are talking about homegrown and federalist enabled talents in the likes of Maryan Mursal, Ahmed Naaji aun, Omer Dhuule. Would they be able today to rise and become huge talents in the clan based federalism of today. My take is, they would not. Not saying federalism is wrong, but it wouldn’t enable talents and excellence, specially from disenfranchised communities. Prove me wrong, Mr.Ilyria. 

[Illyria]

We can definitely debate that, but at first, let us lay a good foundation for a rational conversation, for you are a rational being, and define certain boundaries, and parameters.  I am familiar with European socialist system of governance of the devolved type, Federalism in the US, as being practised, and Chinese socialist system amongst other nations in Asia. Now, tell me about your exposure, and experiences. 

[Illyria]

34 minutes ago, Arafaat said:

I am sure she lived and worked in Bosasso,  but she rised and became famous in the Diaspora.

True, I became aware of her unique style quite recently after I was introduced to her by this group in Hargeysa. I had an interesting interaction with the local talent, and my critique of their style, dress sense, lyrics, and morals was too harsh for the young crowd. See if you could observe: the lead singer leaves his wife at home only to buy a fresh bundle of daisies on the way to hand them over to some femme fatale, possibly his concubine, with whom he dances the evening along. Normalising such a culture, where the young will find it not only acceptable, but advancing it.

 

[Arafaat]

I see your quite the cultural critic, we should consider you for the house cultural critic and connaisseur, but how is your expertise beyond music, such as forms of other cultural forms, e.g. dance, poetry, literature. 

P.S. I have been voted the house ‘Niikotologist’  a few years back, so that spot is taken. 

[Illyria]

8 hours ago, Arafaat said:

I see your quite the cultural critic, we should consider you for the house connaisseur, but how is your expertise beyond music, such as forms of other cultural forms, e.g. dance, poetry, literature.  

No as much as I once did in my younger days when I was an avid reader of classics.

[Illyria]

17 minutes ago, Arafaat said:

P.S. I have been voted the house ‘Niikotologist’  a few years back, so that spot is taken. 

You mean a male "niiko"? Is there such a thing. I am yet to see that.

[Arafaat]

12 minutes ago, Illyria said:

You mean a male "niiko"? Is there such a thing. I am yet to see that.

No, as in a commentator or analyst of the Niiko dance, so to say. ‘Northerners’, excuse my connotation, seem to hold distorted views of the  Niiko and it’s underlying meanings. Read below thread. 

 

 

[Illyria]

See how much of this you catch.