"No extension, election on Jan 8th, and honourable transfer of power" Said A/llahi Deni

[Arafaat]

5 hours ago, Illyria said:

 I am rooting for a Federal Member State in its own right. Of course, there shall be challenges, and opportunities. At the grand Issims conference, I am expecting there shall be a set of recommendations where people of neighbouring regions incl. Nugaal, Mudug, and Sanaag (Maakhir) shall have representation in the SSC Administration whilst people of SSC shall have representation in PL.

That doesn’t make much sense, I don’t think Mudug has even a border with SSC, unless you plan to annex  Hawd region of Ethiopia in to SSC. Second, it doesn’t answer if Maakhir is integral part of SSC or they are not, thirdly reer Nugaal and Sool have a clear alienated border both provincially and clan wise as well. And above all, it goes against everything federalism should be standing for having an authority closest to the people it’s representing and it’s local realities, and when u have a federal state and you stuff it with clansman from other regions wouldn’t that defy the very essence of federalism. It would have made more sense if you said we will include representatives of the HJ, HY, Ay*, UgaasL* and Gab** and others who are native to SSC regions.

 

[Illyria]

PL Election Commission (PEC) just released election schedule with both Presidential and Parliamentary elections being held on Feb. 25th.

 

 

 

[Qurac&qansax]

it seems Deni decided to move the date from 8 January to end of February. The date is muqadas, i don't think it will be acceptable. 

[Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar]

Qurac haye, Deni maaku kacday maanta?

[Illyria]

What does "muqadas" mean?
Current parliament's term ends on Jan 08th, therefore Elections could be held: No earlier than Nov. 8th, and no later than May 08. That is a plenty of time to organise elections.

Article 42 re Elections, section (6) states:
The date for each election shall be determined by the Electoral Commission, but
a) It shall not be less than two (2) months nor,
b) More than four (4) months BEFORE the end of the period of the elected functionaries.

 

[maakhiri1]

what does opposition want?

Everything on the table, new registration, new schedule, if they have what it takes, time to register new voters,  seek vote from the PL voters, No more those very corrupted elders, who used to bid and sell to highest bidder.

[Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar]

34 minutes ago, maakhiri1 said:

what does opposition want?

Everything on the table, new registration, new schedule, if they have what it takes, time to register new voters,  seek vote from the PL voters, No more those very corrupted elders, who used to bid and sell to highest bidder.

Mucaaradka, mainly from Reer Garoowe, want to get their ayuuto since it is their 'turn' to eat from saxanka.

Reer Diyaano ma'ogi waxee mucaarad u yihiin, qof iyo cod ayee fursad u leeyihiin since currently the ayuuto is in their saxan.

[maakhiri1]

1 minute ago, Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar said:

Mucaaradka, mainly from Reer Garoowe, want to get their ayuuto since it is their 'turn' to eat from saxanka.

Reer Diyaano ma'ogi waxee mucaarad u yihiin, qof iyo cod ayee fursad u leeyihiin since currently the ayuuto is in their saxan.

I agree, there is current under dealing, like mafia, Majority of PLers are looking forward to the 1p1v and it will even make more sense once you remove 17 seats for SSC

You have to understand that clan elders want the old system too, they salivating for more money

[Illyria]

I always suspected @maakhiri1 was not a genuine reer Maakhir, or perhaps one of those kids birthed in kakuma & sablaale camps, or worse yet "ciyaal kacaan". At every turn, he slags off Issms, the only revered authority, or "marjac" in said regions, where when all else fails, and politicians dice and lance at the expense of State and nation, they almost always save the day, with their imperfections and all.

[Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar]

Maakhiri waxba ha u gafin. Odey dhaqameedka are men with same flaws of average maryooleey. Marka diety kaamil ah haka dhigin.

They can't even agree themselves oo kala qeybsan maanta.

[Illyria]

On 10/22/2023 at 12:54 PM, Arafaat said:

That doesn’t make much sense, I don’t think Mudug has even a border with SSC, unless you plan to annex  Hawd region of Ethiopia in to SSC.

You did not know reer Mudug & reer SSC share borders, grazing land, and water wells? They do, perhaps not as extensive as reer Nugaal, but do nonetheless, for example when there is conflict in Cayn, reer Mudug are the first on site before even reer Sool. But you knew that already. Here is a decent map.

On 10/22/2023 at 12:54 PM, Arafaat said:

Second, it doesn’t answer if Maakhir is integral part of SSC or they are not, thirdly reer Nugaal and Sool have a clear alienated border both provincially and clan wise as well. And above all, it goes against everything federalism should be standing for having an authority closest to the people it’s representing and it’s local realities, and when u have a federal state and you stuff it with clansman from other regions wouldn’t that defy the very essence of federalism.

Actually it does not negate federalism, if anything it promotes it, for borders are clearly defined, known, and go by grazing demarcations by communities, hence nullifies the border query, unless of course your question had an ulterior meaning, in which case, you will have to demystify it.

[Illyria]

20 minutes ago, Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar said:

Maakhiri waxba ha u gafin. Odey dhaqameedka are men with same flaws of average maryooleey. Marka diety kaamil ah haka dhigin.

They can't even agree themselves oo kala qeybsan maanta.

No, it was not intended to be a "geff", but an observation. Again, as humans, we are all imperfect, and so are Issims. But then again, Issims' role in the East and North is much different from the South, and I would not expect you to be fully briefed as to their role. After all, "dhal kacaan iyagaa iska kaa yaqaan" !

[maakhiri1]

16 minutes ago, Illyria said:

You did not know reer Mudug & reer SSC share borders, grazing land, and water wells? They do, perhaps not as extensive as reer Nugaal, but do nonetheless, for example when there is conflict in Cayn, reer Mudug are the first on site before even reer Sool. But you knew that already. Here is a decent map.

Actually it does not negate federalism, if anything it promotes it, for borders are clearly defined, known, and go by grazing demarcations by communities, hence nullifies the border query, unless of course your question had an ulterior meaning, in which case, you will have to demystify it.

how accurate is this map? who created it?

Where are the Makhirs in Bari region? Bosaaso? who lives in Majiyahn, Kalabayr, Karin?

 

[Illyria]

It is an old map, and not 100%, but one of the closest  one could find. It is the map the UN and EU use for the old country.

[maakhiri1]

17 minutes ago, Illyria said:

No, it was intended to be a "geff", but an observation. Again, as humans, we are all imperfect, and so are Issims. But then again, Issims' role in the East and North is much different from the South, and I would not expect you to be fully briefed as to their role. After all, "dhal kacaan iyagaa iska kaa yaqaan" !

You are being naive, the misery and humiliation SSC suffered in last 15 years, was nothing but because of some paid traditional leaders, who overestimated their abilities, and use. The same goes for Maakhirs.

Wake up bro, Firdhiyiye must  create a secret army , that eliminates any traditional leader who over steps and deals with enemy again.

Traditional leaders have role, peace making, blood money collections, but have to stay away from politics.