Grand Conference for reer Awdal in Ottawa

[galbeedi]

By the way, last week the Habro decided last week they don't need anyone.

THe Awdal elders were told to go home and this election issue will be handled by one branch of the Habro.

Since we all went back to the old clan contract, we decided to not renew that contract and go our separate route. The Habro shouldn't be worried , they got the airports, the commercial capital, Bebera port. let us decide and run our affaires and trade like good neighbors.

[Illyria]

16 minutes ago, galbeedi said:

These figures are sent from Amoud university. It including import levies from Layacado with over 200 trucks a week passing from Djibouti, Sand ( Niista wax lagu dhiso in Djibouti) being hauled from Zaylac area going to Djibouti daily. Head taxes from Djibouti. Every man, woman and child crossing from Lawyacado pays $32 dollars. There is no head taxes or entry fee  any other entry whether it is Wajaale, Gaashaamo or entry point from Garoowe or Bari. Thousands people from Djibouti leave the 45C degree temperature and they pay these entry fees. It could be similar to the Hargeisa airport which has one single small plane coming from Ethiopian airline.

The chart that we have seen had all the break down of daily cash in take from the city to Lawyacdo. It looked like this:

Import taxes from Lawyacado. minimum of 200 trucks per week. Sometimes taxed twice 

Head taxes from Lawyacdo. $32 dollars per head.

Pit sands exported from Zaylac to Djibouti construction sights with zero levy and the contract is between Biihi and Geelle familt. That alone is estimated  up to $8 million a year.

Qat imports in Awdal from Ethiopia cashes millions of dollars.

Property taxes collected from Borama city going directly to Hargeisa banks.

Business taxes from the city and towns all going to Hargeisa.

Tax from land purchases going directly to Hargeisa.

Millions for mineral exploration licenses given to foreign companies.

Fishing licenses given to foreign companies from Lawyacado to Lugahaya, mostly Egyptian.

Taxes from livestock market. A city of over 200,000 people needs hundreds of goats, cows and camel slaughtered for  consumption daily. 

Livestock bought from the region and taken to Berbera for gulf exports.

It was prepared by Amoud university. 

It could be exaggerated , but Awdal is second in revenue for Somaliland after Woqoyi Galbeed region which is Hargeisa, Berbera and Wajaale. The rest are consumers.

The real truth that can't be overlooked is we got nothing back from those taxes.

With our own ports and trade routes with DDS the sky is the limit.

Thanks for providing the background. Perhaps we could get the breakdown in real number. 80m is pittance in comparison, but is still a decent sum, if invested wisely in the region, esp. when only 150 thou is allocated for the region.

[Arafaat]

13 hours ago, Game changer said:

We invite all of them, they should bring their pen and papers , and we will sign  everything  they suggested.   As long as all of them are leaving us we support GB exit.    Durriyada forces won't shoot one single GB person.  We already handed the security duties to Their own.      Cid naga cabata ma rabno.   Somaliland waa saxan bariisa oo ciyaal dhex yaala ,  ninkii  aan waxba Nala boobi Karin hayska tago.   Anagu sidii hore ma nihin isq danta isq buu usoo jeestay.   

And what might that be? 

[Arafaat]

1 hour ago, galbeedi said:

By the way, last week the Habro decided last week they don't need anyone.

THe Awdal elders were told to go home and this election issue will be handled by one branch of the Habro.

Since we all went back to the old clan contract, we decided to not renew that contract and go our separate route. The Habro shouldn't be worried , they got the airports, the commercial capital, Bebera port. let us decide and run our affaires and trade like good neighbors.

Galbeedi, was that really a request from Habro’s? Second this whole assertion that one can be independent from eachother while hosting national infrastructure is a grave mistake, we have seen how that turned out in Mogadishu with decades of infighting and internal instability beyond the scope of a sub-clan to resolve, why do u think Somalilanders can have their cake and eat it to? 

 

[Game changer]

1 hour ago, galbeedi said:

These figures are sent from Amoud university. It including import levies from Layacado with over 200 trucks a week passing from Djibouti, Sand ( Niista wax lagu dhiso in Djibouti) being hauled from Zaylac area going to Djibouti daily. Head taxes from Djibouti. Every man, woman and child crossing from Lawyacado pays $32 dollars. There is no head taxes or entry fee  any other entry whether it is Wajaale, Gaashaamo or entry point from Garoowe or Bari. Thousands people from Djibouti leave the 45C degree temperature and they pay these entry fees. It could be similar to the Hargeisa airport which has one single small plane coming from Ethiopian airline.

The chart that we have seen had all the break down of daily cash in take from the city to Lawyacdo. It looked like this:

Import taxes from Lawyacado. minimum of 200 trucks per week. Sometimes taxed twice 

Head taxes from Lawyacdo. $32 dollars per head.

Pit sands exported from Zaylac to Djibouti construction sights with zero levy and the contract is between Biihi and Geelle familt. That alone is estimated  up to $8 million a year.

Qat imports in Awdal from Ethiopia cashes millions of dollars.

Property taxes collected from Borama city going directly to Hargeisa banks.

Business taxes from the city and towns all going to Hargeisa.

Tax from land purchases going directly to Hargeisa.

Millions for mineral exploration licenses given to foreign companies.

Fishing licenses given to foreign companies from Lawyacado to Lugahaya, mostly Egyptian.

Taxes from livestock market. A city of over 200,000 people needs hundreds of goats, cows and camel slaughtered for  consumption daily. 

Livestock bought from the region and taken to Berbera for gulf exports.

It was prepared by Amoud university. 

It could be exaggerated , but Awdal is second in revenue for Somaliland after Woqoyi Galbeed region which is Hargeisa, Berbera and Wajaale. The rest are consumers.

The real truth that can't be overlooked is we got nothing back from those taxes.

With our own ports and trade routes with DDS the sky is the limit.

 

 

 

 

Bring the document  ,from the university of amoud, if you can't prove it doesn't exist   , stop feeding your own lies. This is the  the official budget of somaliland central government  published by the ministry of finance.   It shows both the customs and inland revenues of the year 2021 .   

Budget-Book-A4-2022-UPDATE.pdf

[Game changer]

55 minutes ago, Arafaat said:

Galbeedi, was that really a request from Habro’s? Second this whole assertion that one can be independent from eachother while hosting national infrastructure is a grave mistake, we have seen how that turned out in Mogadishu with decades of infighting and internal instability beyond the scope of a sub-clan to resolve, why do u think Somalilanders can have their cake and eat it to? 

 

Take pinch of salt with what ever galbeedi says.  His community hesitated to break a deal between the government and the opposition.  Then my HJ community took the role.  How ever it's true we no longer interested to   impose somaliland rule over others.  Every one should do their own math , if it benefits for them they can stay,   If not They can leave.  

The hrti is out  permanently,  we expect them to completely vacate any political position they still  hold  as soon as possible.   We got too many unemployed isqs. 

 

[Illyria]

Altogether, how many positions do Harti hold in Parliament, ministerial, gubernatorial etc?

[galbeedi]

2 hours ago, Game changer said:

How ever it's true we no longer interested to   impose somaliland rule over others.  Every one should do their own math , if it benefits for them they can stay,   If not They can leave.  

Mr. Game you make a lot of senses these days. If that is the case we could be good neighbors and brothers without that mess.

[galbeedi]

1 hour ago, Illyria said:

how many positions do Harti hold in Parliament,

The Harti with largest land mass and over 8 districts has only 6 members in the parliament.

[Game changer]

1 hour ago, Illyria said:

Altogether, how many positions do Harti hold in Parliament, ministerial, gubernatorial etc?

Same as GX.  And definitely more than HJ.  Except the parliament.   They have no rights to be there when Their clan is the enemy number one of somaliland.  I hope most of them to leave voluntarily .

[Game changer]

52 minutes ago, galbeedi said:

Mr. Game you make a lot of senses these days. If that is the case we could be good neighbors and brothers without that mess.

We can't be good neighbors , because  there will be territorial dispute, that didn't exist before.  For example you have small minority in gebiley , once you leave they must also leave.  So I don't think  our relationship will be good in case we separate.  As a clan  We prefer cse waraabe. 

[Arafaat]

2 hours ago, Game changer said:

Same as GX.  And definitely more than HJ.  Except the parliament.   They have no rights to be there when Their clan is the enemy number one of somaliland.  I hope most of them to leave voluntarily .

HA has 3 governors while Harti has one, Grx has 20+ MPs while Harti doesn’t even have 4 or 5, let’s be frank here. 

[Arafaat]

5 hours ago, Game changer said:

Take pinch of salt with what ever galbeedi says.  His community hesitated to break a deal between the government and the opposition.  Then my HJ community took the role.  How ever it's true we no longer interested to   impose somaliland rule over others.  Every one should do their own math , if it benefits for them they can stay,   If not They can leave.  

The hrti is out  permanently,  we expect them to completely vacate any political position they still  hold  as soon as possible.   We got too many unemployed isqs. 

 

Under Siilanyo it was all about broader Habro community, now your saying it’s every Habro for themselves, next year it’s every Abokor, Muse and Ismail for himself. Let the clanisation continue, see where one hits bottom.  

[maakhiri1]

 

[Che -Guevara]

18 minutes ago, Arafaat said:

Under Siilanyo it was all about broader Habro community, now your saying it’s every Habro for themselves, next year it’s every Abokor, Muse and Ismail for himself. Let the clanisation continue, see where one hits bottom.  

Sool changed the entire calculation!