BREAKING NEWS: Axmed Yuusuf Yaasiin: THE BREAKUP OF SOMALIA IS UNTENABLE..

[nuune]

^^^ lool@fooxle

 

waxaan orani Nin Daad Qaadey Xunbe Cuskey, Soomaali laguma aqoonin inta uu hadal yiraahdo dib uga noqda, qowmiyadaha kale taas baan uga duwanahay, balse Ahmed Fooxle waa in dib loo baaraa

[nuune]

^^^ lool@fooxle

 

waxaan orani Nin Daad Qaadey Xunbe Cuskey, Soomaali laguma aqoonin inta uu hadal yiraahdo dib uga noqda, qowmiyadaha kale taas baan uga duwanahay, balse Ahmed Fooxle waa in dib loo baaraa

[Xidigo]

Originally posted by NGONGE:

I am actually tempted to go for the united option

Welcome home yaa fellow citizen. Waan ogaa inaad maalin uun dudmada ka soo noqonaysaa.

[Xidigo]

Originally posted by NGONGE:

I am actually tempted to go for the united option

Welcome home yaa fellow citizen. Waan ogaa inaad maalin uun dudmada ka soo noqonaysaa.

[AfricaOwn]

Originally posted by xiinfaniin:

^^Xerta Macallin Rabiic or some similar dhariiqah

 

edt:

Africaown, did you feel let down brother?

Don't make me have to bring Siilanyo to your face, so that he can confront you for using his name in vain.

[AfricaOwn]

Originally posted by xiinfaniin:

^^Xerta Macallin Rabiic or some similar dhariiqah

 

edt:

Africaown, did you feel let down brother?

Don't make me have to bring Siilanyo to your face, so that he can confront you for using his name in vain.

[xiinfaniin]

^^ka jawaab su'aasha ya Ifriiqi

 

 

Nuune,

Actually Ahmed's was a beautiful statement. It was a moment of truth. It showed secessionism is a Diaspora bound ideology and is about to lose the grip it had Somaliland politics. That he caved for the pressure of the noisy Qurbo joogta like Oodweyne is neither here nor there. The waan kala go aynaa hype got a gentle touch from this sufi man.

 

I am debating if it was a khilaawo of sort, or a calculated political move. Time will tell.

[xiinfaniin]

^^ka jawaab su'aasha ya Ifriiqi

 

 

Nuune,

Actually Ahmed's was a beautiful statement. It was a moment of truth. It showed secessionism is a Diaspora bound ideology and is about to lose the grip it had Somaliland politics. That he caved for the pressure of the noisy Qurbo joogta like Oodweyne is neither here nor there. The waan kala go aynaa hype got a gentle touch from this sufi man.

 

I am debating if it was a khilaawo of sort, or a calculated political move. Time will tell.

[AfricaOwn]

^^Ya Xin-less. Its time to end your love with speculations. Its not taking you no where.

[AfricaOwn]

^^Ya Xin-less. Its time to end your love with speculations. Its not taking you no where.

[Suldaanka]

Originally posted by xiinfaniin:

Where is Suldan? Oodweyne? NGONGE?

 

What did he say that warranted to hold a press conference and explain himself?

 

xiin is disappointed initially because this xerow vp attempted to steal Siilaanyo line

 

Apparently the xerow failed to hold the line.

Of course, the way he said it and the way it was translated by the opposition newspapers in Somaliland are totally opposite. He never said what Horn wrote in his post and now Horn has disappeared to come and share with where he got those two bullet points.

 

I don't blame the opposition groups because that is their job; to keep the government in check. VP's speech was not the most clear and concise speeches in the world. It was ridden with a lot of potential "nuggets" for the opposition to dispropotionally exploit. I think this would be a change for Ahmed Yusuf Yasin to learn a lesson to be more clear and choose the right words to communicate his position more concisely.

 

But I welcome the VP came out, quickly, and trashed the naysayers. This is an important issue that can not be in the naysayers domain for too long.

[Suldaanka]

Originally posted by xiinfaniin:

Where is Suldan? Oodweyne? NGONGE?

 

What did he say that warranted to hold a press conference and explain himself?

 

xiin is disappointed initially because this xerow vp attempted to steal Siilaanyo line

 

Apparently the xerow failed to hold the line.

Of course, the way he said it and the way it was translated by the opposition newspapers in Somaliland are totally opposite. He never said what Horn wrote in his post and now Horn has disappeared to come and share with where he got those two bullet points.

 

I don't blame the opposition groups because that is their job; to keep the government in check. VP's speech was not the most clear and concise speeches in the world. It was ridden with a lot of potential "nuggets" for the opposition to dispropotionally exploit. I think this would be a change for Ahmed Yusuf Yasin to learn a lesson to be more clear and choose the right words to communicate his position more concisely.

 

But I welcome the VP came out, quickly, and trashed the naysayers. This is an important issue that can not be in the naysayers domain for too long.

[xiinfaniin]

^^Raggeedii.

 

But where you see slip of tongue, we see a flood of forbidden truth breaking out of the presidential gate. Attempting to claim it back is nowise possible now yaa Suldan.

[xiinfaniin]

^^Raggeedii.

 

But where you see slip of tongue, we see a flood of forbidden truth breaking out of the presidential gate. Attempting to claim it back is nowise possible now yaa Suldan.

[Suldaanka]

I've already translated the two quotes in contention Xiinow. And honestly, if it is translated the way he wanted to say, there is no much difference than what Somaliland has always said.

 

Somaliland has always said that "Somali" [not Somalia] need each other - socially that is. But has always added the, "But politically, Somaliland need to remain seperate". President Mohamed I. Egal (AUN) said that many times and its on the record.

 

 

And the other thing, I don't see any issue to having open borders with either Djibouti or Somalia (Proper). I would have issues with Ethiopia, though.

 

So comment on my translations if you can.

 

quote:

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“Berigii hore halkay innaga taagnaayeen arrimaha dibadu maanta inagama taagna ee aad bay uga dhaw yihiin, waxaan weliba rajaynayaa haddaynu nahay Somaliland oo aan filayaa imika maamulka qabsaday Koonfurta Soomaaliya in aynu la jaan-qaadi karno, maxaayeelay waa dhalinyaro cusub oo da’dii 1960-kii talinaysay meesha way ka baxday. Waxa weeyaan da’dii lixdankii talinaysay waa da’ ciil-qabta oo wax badani siyaasad ahan soo dhex mareen. Waxaan filayaa Sheekh Shariif in uu Qaranka Somaliland iyo Soomaaliya si fiican u kala guri doono.”

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Here, the VP makes a remark about UDUB's effort with regards to Foreign Relations and he makes the comment about how close it [the recogntion] is today than ever before. He adds that with the new landmark development regarding the election of Sheikh Sherif as "new blood", Somaliland will be able to build a positive relationship. He described the old-guard (60s generation of Southern Politicians) as "vengeful" and "bitter" - ie they were not flexible with regards to Somaliland's issue. He continued and said that, Sheikh Sherif is break from that old chapter and We [somaliland] could do business with him with regards to formal seperation [si fiican u kala guri doono].

 

 

quote:

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"Dabcan Soomaaliyi kala maarmi mayso oo cid xad xidhaysa iyo cid wax oodaysaa ma jirto, sidaa Yurub baa la noqon doonaa, laakiin qolo waliba horto inay dib isu soo dhisto oo ay dib u muuqato, oo hadhaw wax la saxo. Ninna laga celin maayo Hargeysa, midna Xamar laga celin maayo, dadka khalad baa la fahan siiyay oo waxa la yidhi xad baa la xidhayaa, Ciidan baa la keenayaa oo ninna soo gudbi maayo, waxaasi waa wax dadka lagu fogaynayo ee dadku waa dadkii uun, laakiin Yurub-ba siday wax u kala leedahay ayaynu wax u kala yeelanaynaa (Soomaaliya iyo Somaliland), dadkuna sidaas ayay isu dhex soconayaan.”

 

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In this quote, the VP makes the assertion that he wants to see something along the lines of "EU" with regards to open cross-border as far as people movement is concerned. He underscores that Southern Somalia needs to build something of a governance structure before a free-border agreement could be reached. He redicules the people who say that they want to close-down the borders and says that everyone should be able to go to where they want just like in "EU". But he also underscored that Somaliland will be Somaliland and Somalia will be Somalia seperate entities.