Major-General Cawad Posted May 24, 2005 What are the aims of this so-called disarmament which is Qabiil driven and not even consulted with the heads of the TFG. The International Community only let the warlords go away from Nairobi to give them a last chance if they fail that's it this warlords will be held to account. They'll be killed or arrested. So we wish them luck because it is them who said that they will establish peace in Mog city without internation donations and funds and foreign troops. Inshallah lets see what the future holds. Certainly we don't want them to fail the task to undertook which is a very fundumental one indeed. Wish them luck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jumatatu Posted May 24, 2005 Originally posted by Sheikh Muhammed bin Awad: to give them a last chance if they fail that's it this warlords will be held to account. They'll be killed or arrested. Duh...! And who would do this? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jumatatu Posted May 24, 2005 Originally posted by Sheikh Muhammed bin Awad: to give them a last chance if they fail that's it this warlords will be held to account. They'll be killed or arrested. Duh...! And who would do this? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johnny B Posted May 24, 2005 First of all ... WHO ARE WE? Though your topic and context are not compitable, lemme try to answer your "to be meant a question" by giving ya ur daily dos of ...you know what The AIM of the disarmament of Somalia´s deadliest Militia worriors( according to a US Ranger ) is 1: To Make Mogadishu a safer Capital 2: To Build the Army of to be "Banadirland# 3: To Build the to come Federal army of Somalia The Militry hardware they´ve belongs to the people of to be "banadirland" Now to further degrade myself and the SOL political section user´s expectations,i´d like to ask you this . WHO could disarm them if not their own leaders? 1: Colonel yey and his Puntland? ( can´t help laughing ) 2: The 1700 AU to come from Uganda & sudan? ( US rangers KNOW better 3: The Ethiopian ARMY?( now u r talking , na´mean) To Wrap things up for you ... The Minsiters/legislators in Mogadishu have decided to bring peace to Somalia when they participated in the Nairobi confrence and they´re doing exactly what they´ve promissed the people of Somalia n Mogadishu . Last but not least ... you need to watch more of the Duke, lean back n LEARN ( my Abtiyo is by far the ONLY respectable contender ) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johnny B Posted May 24, 2005 First of all ... WHO ARE WE? Though your topic and context are not compitable, lemme try to answer your "to be meant a question" by giving ya ur daily dos of ...you know what The AIM of the disarmament of Somalia´s deadliest Militia worriors( according to a US Ranger ) is 1: To Make Mogadishu a safer Capital 2: To Build the Army of to be "Banadirland# 3: To Build the to come Federal army of Somalia The Militry hardware they´ve belongs to the people of to be "banadirland" Now to further degrade myself and the SOL political section user´s expectations,i´d like to ask you this . WHO could disarm them if not their own leaders? 1: Colonel yey and his Puntland? ( can´t help laughing ) 2: The 1700 AU to come from Uganda & sudan? ( US rangers KNOW better 3: The Ethiopian ARMY?( now u r talking , na´mean) To Wrap things up for you ... The Minsiters/legislators in Mogadishu have decided to bring peace to Somalia when they participated in the Nairobi confrence and they´re doing exactly what they´ve promissed the people of Somalia n Mogadishu . Last but not least ... you need to watch more of the Duke, lean back n LEARN ( my Abtiyo is by far the ONLY respectable contender ) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OLOL Posted May 25, 2005 Fiction: all the warlords and warring factions signed a nominal peace agreement in Kenya. Fiction: The warlords selected the most hardnosed warlord among them as their gang-leader. Fact: we are ruled and led by ruthless opportunistic clannish men. This whole sham is our enemies plot. Faanoole fari kama qodna - yaa is gaaray weli? Fact: the transitional government is itself another warring faction, with the ultimate goal of subjugating all other factions (WITH THE HELP OF MELES) and thus being the sole power in the country. Propaganda: Ina-yeey and his clique are pursuing a campaign to defame and dehumanize Mogadishu and its people for the ultimate goal of legitimizing their ambition of clan supremacy and dictatorship. There are some of these lunatics who believe they have been endowed with the birthright to rule and lead. Pragmatism: Mogadishu ppoulace( tired of violence and nonesense) are very well informed and intelligent and no group, on their right mind, will give up their hard-won clout to backward-looking deceitful rival. Fact: Over past fourteen years some parts and regions of Somalia (Hargeisa, Boosaaso, etc) had experienced different stages of stability and resemblance of peace. Fact: Mogadishu is the capital city. Basically, Somalia is Mogadishu and Mogadishu is Somalia. Now it is Mogadishu's turn to work on re-examining its plight and finding solutions for its problems. Jinni yaa bixiya ? ninkii keenay! Hope: We are all hoping that this new voluntary disarmament by the Mogadishu warlords will bring a durable peace to the city. This is not only a matter of choice but a requirement for restoring peace and hope in Xamar-Cadde and it should be supported by any means necessary. It is not a smokescreen conspiracy to overthrow or defeat any Somali faction but a genuine attempt to re-establish law and order in the capital city. Suggestion: Let me note here that the way to lasting peace will require promoting national conscientiousness rather than clannish partiality. The way to long-lasting peace requires an open and honest discussion of all issues, particularly, the ones that may be considered emotional and embarrassing such as discrediting your own feverish clansmen and confronting or breaking ties to the group think insularity of your clannish nomads. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OLOL Posted May 25, 2005 Fiction: all the warlords and warring factions signed a nominal peace agreement in Kenya. Fiction: The warlords selected the most hardnosed warlord among them as their gang-leader. Fact: we are ruled and led by ruthless opportunistic clannish men. This whole sham is our enemies plot. Faanoole fari kama qodna - yaa is gaaray weli? Fact: the transitional government is itself another warring faction, with the ultimate goal of subjugating all other factions (WITH THE HELP OF MELES) and thus being the sole power in the country. Propaganda: Ina-yeey and his clique are pursuing a campaign to defame and dehumanize Mogadishu and its people for the ultimate goal of legitimizing their ambition of clan supremacy and dictatorship. There are some of these lunatics who believe they have been endowed with the birthright to rule and lead. Pragmatism: Mogadishu ppoulace( tired of violence and nonesense) are very well informed and intelligent and no group, on their right mind, will give up their hard-won clout to backward-looking deceitful rival. Fact: Over past fourteen years some parts and regions of Somalia (Hargeisa, Boosaaso, etc) had experienced different stages of stability and resemblance of peace. Fact: Mogadishu is the capital city. Basically, Somalia is Mogadishu and Mogadishu is Somalia. Now it is Mogadishu's turn to work on re-examining its plight and finding solutions for its problems. Jinni yaa bixiya ? ninkii keenay! Hope: We are all hoping that this new voluntary disarmament by the Mogadishu warlords will bring a durable peace to the city. This is not only a matter of choice but a requirement for restoring peace and hope in Xamar-Cadde and it should be supported by any means necessary. It is not a smokescreen conspiracy to overthrow or defeat any Somali faction but a genuine attempt to re-establish law and order in the capital city. Suggestion: Let me note here that the way to lasting peace will require promoting national conscientiousness rather than clannish partiality. The way to long-lasting peace requires an open and honest discussion of all issues, particularly, the ones that may be considered emotional and embarrassing such as discrediting your own feverish clansmen and confronting or breaking ties to the group think insularity of your clannish nomads. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coloow Posted May 25, 2005 Sheikh, "Are you thinking what we are thinking.." Soo ma aha weedhii riday Michael Howard iyo xisbigiisa "conservative"-ka? Saaxib, The whole government and parliament is "qabil" driven Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coloow Posted May 25, 2005 Sheikh, "Are you thinking what we are thinking.." Soo ma aha weedhii riday Michael Howard iyo xisbigiisa "conservative"-ka? Saaxib, The whole government and parliament is "qabil" driven Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted May 25, 2005 @Pragmatism: Mogadishu ppoulace( tired of violence and nonesense) are very well informed and intelligent and no group, on their right mind, will give up their hard-won clout to backward-looking deceitful rival. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted May 25, 2005 @Pragmatism: Mogadishu ppoulace( tired of violence and nonesense) are very well informed and intelligent and no group, on their right mind, will give up their hard-won clout to backward-looking deceitful rival. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
contraflow Posted May 25, 2005 Don't you people get tired. Somalia this Mogdishu that... If reer Puntland don't want Xamar and think they have relative peace there then why does Xamar's situation bother you. Now don't give me the BS that its the capital of Somalia meaning you have to care. The truth is no one cares apart from trying to make a point ie I'm better than you because I have peace and you are dumb because you don't have a state government As for reer Somaliland why do you care what happens to Somalia as a whole. Leave it to the so called Somali patriots. People give up there will be no such place as Somalia in a couple of years.When ina Yeey quits there should be no more fake reconciliation efforts and everyone should go their own way. Give up while you are ahead!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
contraflow Posted May 25, 2005 Don't you people get tired. Somalia this Mogdishu that... If reer Puntland don't want Xamar and think they have relative peace there then why does Xamar's situation bother you. Now don't give me the BS that its the capital of Somalia meaning you have to care. The truth is no one cares apart from trying to make a point ie I'm better than you because I have peace and you are dumb because you don't have a state government As for reer Somaliland why do you care what happens to Somalia as a whole. Leave it to the so called Somali patriots. People give up there will be no such place as Somalia in a couple of years.When ina Yeey quits there should be no more fake reconciliation efforts and everyone should go their own way. Give up while you are ahead!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted May 25, 2005 Contraflow, How does Xamar as an occupied city sit with you? Does that touch a raw nerve? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted May 25, 2005 Contraflow, How does Xamar as an occupied city sit with you? Does that touch a raw nerve? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites