Eed iyo Jawaab: Ahmed Godane vs. C/raxmaan Jiniqow.

[RedSea]

Twisted logic,

 

He is a traitor and terrible one at that. Just because he hails from your clan doesn't make him any less of a one.

 

 

What do you call a man who has declared Jihad on Ethiopian troops, put his young boys in harms' way. And instead of fighting like a man; ran across the border to Kenya to meet with the CIA and later slept comfortably in Asmara and Yemen and Djibouti while the battle he started raged on?

 

To top it off, he has returned to sign unilateral treaties with the same enemy that he declared Jihad on while his homeland is still being occupied, his people being suppressed. He has sided against his people and country. He betrayed his countrymen and most importantly his compatriots like Ahmed Godane.

 

lol@Janaqow is a scholar. He is emotional in this piece. He's full of rhetoric. He made no seriously and concise reference to the Qu'ran and Sunnah if you listened to his 20 minute nonsense.

 

 

It's also known fact that the so call Islamic courts union (who have denigrated to clannish level) are weak and non functioning. Just take a look at the bases which were left by the Ethiopian troops. The first to claim it were IndhaCade and Co. a member of Islamic Courts. He didn't fight for it, as Godane said. When the Alshabab forces liberate Somalia, they too will jump on the bandwagon and say we were there doing the dirty work for you. If things don't go according to plan, they protest and accuse of others mistakes.

[xiinfaniin]

^^Calling Sharif a traitor, while showering praises on Godane eh! Coming from you too.

[xiinfaniin]

^^Calling Sharif a traitor, while showering praises on Godane eh! Coming from you too.

[xiinfaniin]

^^Calling Sharif a traitor, while showering praises on Godane eh! Coming from you too.

[RedSea]

Adeer Godane and the Alshabab movements are my heroes and Sh. Shariif and Indhacade and their group are traitors and cowards who ran for the border when things don't go well.

[RedSea]

Adeer Godane and the Alshabab movements are my heroes and Sh. Shariif and Indhacade and their group are traitors and cowards who ran for the border when things don't go well.

[RedSea]

Adeer Godane and the Alshabab movements are my heroes and Sh. Shariif and Indhacade and their group are traitors and cowards who ran for the border when things don't go well.

[Mintid Farayar]

Your point is well taken. Many of us have read the report you quoted as well as the others that preceded it in past years. The security cooperation between Somaliland and Ethiopia is well documented even by Somaliland and Ethiopian government officials. There's nothing secret about it (as well as security cooperation with Djibouti, U.S.A, France, U.K., among others). Somaliland,being a poor, under-developed, post-conflict fledgling state accepts help from anywhere it can and openly states that in official communiques.

 

All of that is granted/given, but my challenge to you is to show proof of Ethiopian armaments transhipping through Berbera. The Arms Control Report (annually issued to the Security Council) is one of the more comprehensive reports of arms shipments in the peninsula that we have access to. Yet in your search, you failed to find any accusations/suspicions that Ethiopia brings armaments through the Berbera 'corridor'. As a matter of fact, this same report in that section clearly states:

"Somaliland is currently not an active belligerent in the Somali conflict, but its claim to independence and dispute with the Puntland administration over Sool and eastern Sanaag regions could potentially lead to armed conflict in future."

 

You've shown us you can do a word-search on the report (let me guess, you found the report and then searched the word Somaliland within the text) yet you nibble around the edges of country-to-country security training without delivering the smoking gun of arms shipments through Berbera.

 

I humbly await your proof.

[Mintid Farayar]

Your point is well taken. Many of us have read the report you quoted as well as the others that preceded it in past years. The security cooperation between Somaliland and Ethiopia is well documented even by Somaliland and Ethiopian government officials. There's nothing secret about it (as well as security cooperation with Djibouti, U.S.A, France, U.K., among others). Somaliland,being a poor, under-developed, post-conflict fledgling state accepts help from anywhere it can and openly states that in official communiques.

 

All of that is granted/given, but my challenge to you is to show proof of Ethiopian armaments transhipping through Berbera. The Arms Control Report (annually issued to the Security Council) is one of the more comprehensive reports of arms shipments in the peninsula that we have access to. Yet in your search, you failed to find any accusations/suspicions that Ethiopia brings armaments through the Berbera 'corridor'. As a matter of fact, this same report in that section clearly states:

"Somaliland is currently not an active belligerent in the Somali conflict, but its claim to independence and dispute with the Puntland administration over Sool and eastern Sanaag regions could potentially lead to armed conflict in future."

 

You've shown us you can do a word-search on the report (let me guess, you found the report and then searched the word Somaliland within the text) yet you nibble around the edges of country-to-country security training without delivering the smoking gun of arms shipments through Berbera.

 

I humbly await your proof.

[Mintid Farayar]

Your point is well taken. Many of us have read the report you quoted as well as the others that preceded it in past years. The security cooperation between Somaliland and Ethiopia is well documented even by Somaliland and Ethiopian government officials. There's nothing secret about it (as well as security cooperation with Djibouti, U.S.A, France, U.K., among others). Somaliland,being a poor, under-developed, post-conflict fledgling state accepts help from anywhere it can and openly states that in official communiques.

 

All of that is granted/given, but my challenge to you is to show proof of Ethiopian armaments transhipping through Berbera. The Arms Control Report (annually issued to the Security Council) is one of the more comprehensive reports of arms shipments in the peninsula that we have access to. Yet in your search, you failed to find any accusations/suspicions that Ethiopia brings armaments through the Berbera 'corridor'. As a matter of fact, this same report in that section clearly states:

"Somaliland is currently not an active belligerent in the Somali conflict, but its claim to independence and dispute with the Puntland administration over Sool and eastern Sanaag regions could potentially lead to armed conflict in future."

 

You've shown us you can do a word-search on the report (let me guess, you found the report and then searched the word Somaliland within the text) yet you nibble around the edges of country-to-country security training without delivering the smoking gun of arms shipments through Berbera.

 

I humbly await your proof.

[Mintid Farayar]

Regarding the interesting debate between Xiin and Warancadde:

 

Warancadde/Red Sea, wasn't Godane & Al-Shabaab behind the terrorist explosions in Hargeisa?? How do you reconcile your support for Somaliland with your even more ardent support for Al Shabaab? Just a bit confused by your position statements on this Forum.

 

Xiin, do you think the various Islamist groups (groups demanding Sharia law for Somalia)can consolidate after Ethiopian withdrawal from Mogadishu and surrounding areas? Remember they were not fully integrated or united even in the 6 months before the Ethiopian invasion (they also were not in conflict, to be fair).

[Mintid Farayar]

Regarding the interesting debate between Xiin and Warancadde:

 

Warancadde/Red Sea, wasn't Godane & Al-Shabaab behind the terrorist explosions in Hargeisa?? How do you reconcile your support for Somaliland with your even more ardent support for Al Shabaab? Just a bit confused by your position statements on this Forum.

 

Xiin, do you think the various Islamist groups (groups demanding Sharia law for Somalia)can consolidate after Ethiopian withdrawal from Mogadishu and surrounding areas? Remember they were not fully integrated or united even in the 6 months before the Ethiopian invasion (they also were not in conflict, to be fair).

[Mintid Farayar]

Regarding the interesting debate between Xiin and Warancadde:

 

Warancadde/Red Sea, wasn't Godane & Al-Shabaab behind the terrorist explosions in Hargeisa?? How do you reconcile your support for Somaliland with your even more ardent support for Al Shabaab? Just a bit confused by your position statements on this Forum.

 

Xiin, do you think the various Islamist groups (groups demanding Sharia law for Somalia)can consolidate after Ethiopian withdrawal from Mogadishu and surrounding areas? Remember they were not fully integrated or united even in the 6 months before the Ethiopian invasion (they also were not in conflict, to be fair).

[RedSea]

Originally posted by Suldaanka:

Ina Godane inu reer Salaxley yahay waxa ku garataa gabayga uu tirinaayo.

 

Waarimayside war ha kaa hadho.

Rer Baligubadle dheh. But you're right rer Salaxley are known orators.

[RedSea]

Originally posted by Suldaanka:

Ina Godane inu reer Salaxley yahay waxa ku garataa gabayga uu tirinaayo.

 

Waarimayside war ha kaa hadho.

Rer Baligubadle dheh. But you're right rer Salaxley are known orators.