Eed iyo Jawaab: Ahmed Godane vs. C/raxmaan Jiniqow.

[RedSea]

Abu,

 

ICU is what its leaders are. The only suggestion for them is to not fight or be an obstacle.

 

xiinfaniin,

 

You've been wrong in everything thus far. You're imaginary peace caravan hasn't materialized. You said that Somalis should put down their arms, swallow their pride and talk. However, as you can see we prevailing today. The Ethiopians have not left, because of any talks, but because they couldn't sustain much more headache and chaos amidst a hostile territory.

 

What you and others don't understand is. Somalia cannot ever changed if same things are repeated. There has to be one dramatic clean up effort to rout all the warlords by either killing them or imprisoning them. Reasoning with the unreasonable serves no point and will prove in effective at the end. This apologetic attitude and foreign conference where every 4 years a warlord or warlord wannabe gets elected has wasted so much time and life. Embrace the change sir. Change is coming.

 

Twisted logic,

 

I know you're a member of Somalinet.com clanish group talk. thus I'm very aware of your clannish positions. The cyber space is not as big as you think. Dont preach to me adeer.

 

Alshabab are far from clannish group. They're drawn from all Somalis. The fact that a man from hargeisa can lead them proves how loose they are. Look at the other end. All the warlords and warlords wannabe cowards have combine each other to be one big nothing.

[Twisted_Logic]

Mintid Farayar,

 

I have stated an open secret, then you asked me for sources, I backed them up with sources. Now you want me to conduct a research to show a proof of Ethiopian armamements transhipping through Berbera? LOL

 

The sources are there for everyone to read, it does not matter how I found them but the important message is that ''Somaliland'' has ties with Ethiopia and that military ties are just part of the package. So importing and transporting of military hardware is just part of the package.

 

Now you can read the sources, and acknowledge the obvious findings, or throw more hurdles at me.

[Twisted_Logic]

Mintid Farayar,

 

I have stated an open secret, then you asked me for sources, I backed them up with sources. Now you want me to conduct a research to show a proof of Ethiopian armamements transhipping through Berbera? LOL

 

The sources are there for everyone to read, it does not matter how I found them but the important message is that ''Somaliland'' has ties with Ethiopia and that military ties are just part of the package. So importing and transporting of military hardware is just part of the package.

 

Now you can read the sources, and acknowledge the obvious findings, or throw more hurdles at me.

[Twisted_Logic]

Mintid Farayar,

 

I have stated an open secret, then you asked me for sources, I backed them up with sources. Now you want me to conduct a research to show a proof of Ethiopian armamements transhipping through Berbera? LOL

 

The sources are there for everyone to read, it does not matter how I found them but the important message is that ''Somaliland'' has ties with Ethiopia and that military ties are just part of the package. So importing and transporting of military hardware is just part of the package.

 

Now you can read the sources, and acknowledge the obvious findings, or throw more hurdles at me.

[Twisted_Logic]

Originally posted by Warancade Al Falastini.:

Abu,

 

ICU is what its leaders are. The only suggestion for them is to not fight or be an obstacle.

 

xiinfaniin,

 

You've been wrong in everything thus far. You're imaginary peace caravan hasn't materialized. You said that Somalis should put down their arms, swallow their pride and talk. However, as you can see we prevailing today. The Ethiopians have not left, because of any talks, but because they couldn't sustain much more headache and chaos amidst a hostile territory.

 

What you and others don't understand is. Somalia cannot ever changed if same things are repeated. There has to be one dramatic clean up effort to rout all the warlords by either killing them or imprisoning them. Reasoning with the unreasonable serves no point and will prove in effective at the end. This apologetic attitude and foreign conference where every 4 years a warlord or warlord wannabe gets elected has wasted so much time and life. Embrace the change sir. Change is coming.

Change comes from within and always starts with yourself.

 

Now bring down the treacherous entity called ''Somaliland'' and then people will take you serious.

 

But parading with its flag and at the same time accusing others of treachery and talking about changing Somalia for the better is just hypocrisy.

[Twisted_Logic]

Originally posted by Warancade Al Falastini.:

Abu,

 

ICU is what its leaders are. The only suggestion for them is to not fight or be an obstacle.

 

xiinfaniin,

 

You've been wrong in everything thus far. You're imaginary peace caravan hasn't materialized. You said that Somalis should put down their arms, swallow their pride and talk. However, as you can see we prevailing today. The Ethiopians have not left, because of any talks, but because they couldn't sustain much more headache and chaos amidst a hostile territory.

 

What you and others don't understand is. Somalia cannot ever changed if same things are repeated. There has to be one dramatic clean up effort to rout all the warlords by either killing them or imprisoning them. Reasoning with the unreasonable serves no point and will prove in effective at the end. This apologetic attitude and foreign conference where every 4 years a warlord or warlord wannabe gets elected has wasted so much time and life. Embrace the change sir. Change is coming.

Change comes from within and always starts with yourself.

 

Now bring down the treacherous entity called ''Somaliland'' and then people will take you serious.

 

But parading with its flag and at the same time accusing others of treachery and talking about changing Somalia for the better is just hypocrisy.

[Twisted_Logic]

Originally posted by Warancade Al Falastini.:

Abu,

 

ICU is what its leaders are. The only suggestion for them is to not fight or be an obstacle.

 

xiinfaniin,

 

You've been wrong in everything thus far. You're imaginary peace caravan hasn't materialized. You said that Somalis should put down their arms, swallow their pride and talk. However, as you can see we prevailing today. The Ethiopians have not left, because of any talks, but because they couldn't sustain much more headache and chaos amidst a hostile territory.

 

What you and others don't understand is. Somalia cannot ever changed if same things are repeated. There has to be one dramatic clean up effort to rout all the warlords by either killing them or imprisoning them. Reasoning with the unreasonable serves no point and will prove in effective at the end. This apologetic attitude and foreign conference where every 4 years a warlord or warlord wannabe gets elected has wasted so much time and life. Embrace the change sir. Change is coming.

Change comes from within and always starts with yourself.

 

Now bring down the treacherous entity called ''Somaliland'' and then people will take you serious.

 

But parading with its flag and at the same time accusing others of treachery and talking about changing Somalia for the better is just hypocrisy.

[Mintid Farayar]

Twisted,

 

This is getting a bit silly. Let me simplify it for you:

I asked you from the beginning to prove a simple statement you made initially - Ethiopia using Berbera/Somaliland to import or transport armaments used in "massacres in the South".

 

You quoted reports stating Ethiopian training and security cooperation for Somaliland security forces. But that wasn't my question to you - if you can't find proof, be man enough to say "I've heard this but have no proof that I can present currently". It's quite simple, actually. Or present the proof.

 

I think it's obvious what your silent answer is even though you dance around to other peripherals that have very little to do with what we're discussing.

 

I understand you oppose Somaliland and it's unilateral reclamation of its statehood and that's your Allah-given right. But that's not what we're discussing here.

 

Ka Baxey...

[Mintid Farayar]

Twisted,

 

This is getting a bit silly. Let me simplify it for you:

I asked you from the beginning to prove a simple statement you made initially - Ethiopia using Berbera/Somaliland to import or transport armaments used in "massacres in the South".

 

You quoted reports stating Ethiopian training and security cooperation for Somaliland security forces. But that wasn't my question to you - if you can't find proof, be man enough to say "I've heard this but have no proof that I can present currently". It's quite simple, actually. Or present the proof.

 

I think it's obvious what your silent answer is even though you dance around to other peripherals that have very little to do with what we're discussing.

 

I understand you oppose Somaliland and it's unilateral reclamation of its statehood and that's your Allah-given right. But that's not what we're discussing here.

 

Ka Baxey...

[Mintid Farayar]

Twisted,

 

This is getting a bit silly. Let me simplify it for you:

I asked you from the beginning to prove a simple statement you made initially - Ethiopia using Berbera/Somaliland to import or transport armaments used in "massacres in the South".

 

You quoted reports stating Ethiopian training and security cooperation for Somaliland security forces. But that wasn't my question to you - if you can't find proof, be man enough to say "I've heard this but have no proof that I can present currently". It's quite simple, actually. Or present the proof.

 

I think it's obvious what your silent answer is even though you dance around to other peripherals that have very little to do with what we're discussing.

 

I understand you oppose Somaliland and it's unilateral reclamation of its statehood and that's your Allah-given right. But that's not what we're discussing here.

 

Ka Baxey...

[Abwaan]

After the Ethiopian withdrawal...Somalis need not to fight against each other, all they need to keep an eye on should be that Ethiopia should not interfere Somali business in anyway.

 

Somalis have to remember in Itoobiya ay jaajuuseen badan dalka ku beeratay horena ugu joogeen kana tagtay ayna ka feejignaadaan hagardaamadeeda.

 

We should be talking about Somali issues and if that is the only case there shouldn't be war hawada la isku mariyo iyo hadal la isku tuurtuuro ummaddaan iyo dalkaan waa in laga badbaadiyaa dhibaato hor leh Haddii Ilaah idmo lagana toobad keenaa dembiyadii la geystey Ilaahna dembi dhaaf la weydiistaa.

[Abwaan]

After the Ethiopian withdrawal...Somalis need not to fight against each other, all they need to keep an eye on should be that Ethiopia should not interfere Somali business in anyway.

 

Somalis have to remember in Itoobiya ay jaajuuseen badan dalka ku beeratay horena ugu joogeen kana tagtay ayna ka feejignaadaan hagardaamadeeda.

 

We should be talking about Somali issues and if that is the only case there shouldn't be war hawada la isku mariyo iyo hadal la isku tuurtuuro ummaddaan iyo dalkaan waa in laga badbaadiyaa dhibaato hor leh Haddii Ilaah idmo lagana toobad keenaa dembiyadii la geystey Ilaahna dembi dhaaf la weydiistaa.

[Abwaan]

After the Ethiopian withdrawal...Somalis need not to fight against each other, all they need to keep an eye on should be that Ethiopia should not interfere Somali business in anyway.

 

Somalis have to remember in Itoobiya ay jaajuuseen badan dalka ku beeratay horena ugu joogeen kana tagtay ayna ka feejignaadaan hagardaamadeeda.

 

We should be talking about Somali issues and if that is the only case there shouldn't be war hawada la isku mariyo iyo hadal la isku tuurtuuro ummaddaan iyo dalkaan waa in laga badbaadiyaa dhibaato hor leh Haddii Ilaah idmo lagana toobad keenaa dembiyadii la geystey Ilaahna dembi dhaaf la weydiistaa.

[Gabbal]

Originally posted by xiinfaniin:

^^Calling Sharif a traitor, while showering praises on Godane eh! Coming from you too.

Waa runtaa yarkagan Red Sea waxaad moodaa bal xooga si qabyaalad ku dheehantahay inuu webiga ukala gooshaya balse adigu nafsadaadu hadaan wax yar ku su'aalo, Shiekh Sharif ma wax lala yabuun ahayn?

 

Awoowe kuray ma tihid, diintana cilmigeedu kuma yarid sidaan anigu kaa dareemay marka mawaadan la yaabayn shaqsi Shiekh baan ahay yiri, tuute xirtay, qori garabka surtay, yirine "JIHAD FIRDUL CAYN YAAN ICLAAMIYEY" kabacdiina cararay markii danbena la ogaaday in dayuurado shisheeye duurka ka dooneen? Ilaa iyo haatane quwadahuu u qori qaatay miyaysan wardiyayn?

 

Shiekh Shariif tiisa Alle haloo daayaan iri ee hanagu soo qaadin taariikhdiisa. Danbi un baad na gelinaysiin.

 

Marka Xiinoow laba mid dheh, ama dheh anigu halkaan wax ka eegayo waa mida Somalia dhibka ay ku jirto ka bixin karayso amase dheh anigu wadciga Alle jecelyahay ayaan wax ka eegaya.

 

Kuwaasi waa laba, hadaad fikrada hore so jeedisid Shiekh Sharif mar danbe in lagugu hor caayo anigu ma qabi. Shiiqu waa run, taageerada quwadahu shiisheeye ayuu kasbaday marka siday u egtahay waa shaqsiga haatan Somalia marxalada ay ku sugantahay wax ka badali karo. Waa shaqsi magac diimeed huwan isla markiina gacan saar la leh wadamada galbeed.

 

Laakiin inuu Shiiqu dariiqiisu yahay wadciga Alle ka farxinayso iyo in kale waa su'aal aakhiro samaan nalooga jawaabi doono. Taasi waa xaqiiq.

 

p.s. As for Jiniqoow, he came back to Xamar last month and has since been escorted around by the foreign troops who expelled his organization. That is all I will say on the subject.

[Gabbal]

Originally posted by xiinfaniin:

^^Calling Sharif a traitor, while showering praises on Godane eh! Coming from you too.

Waa runtaa yarkagan Red Sea waxaad moodaa bal xooga si qabyaalad ku dheehantahay inuu webiga ukala gooshaya balse adigu nafsadaadu hadaan wax yar ku su'aalo, Shiekh Sharif ma wax lala yabuun ahayn?

 

Awoowe kuray ma tihid, diintana cilmigeedu kuma yarid sidaan anigu kaa dareemay marka mawaadan la yaabayn shaqsi Shiekh baan ahay yiri, tuute xirtay, qori garabka surtay, yirine "JIHAD FIRDUL CAYN YAAN ICLAAMIYEY" kabacdiina cararay markii danbena la ogaaday in dayuurado shisheeye duurka ka dooneen? Ilaa iyo haatane quwadahuu u qori qaatay miyaysan wardiyayn?

 

Shiekh Shariif tiisa Alle haloo daayaan iri ee hanagu soo qaadin taariikhdiisa. Danbi un baad na gelinaysiin.

 

Marka Xiinoow laba mid dheh, ama dheh anigu halkaan wax ka eegayo waa mida Somalia dhibka ay ku jirto ka bixin karayso amase dheh anigu wadciga Alle jecelyahay ayaan wax ka eegaya.

 

Kuwaasi waa laba, hadaad fikrada hore so jeedisid Shiekh Sharif mar danbe in lagugu hor caayo anigu ma qabi. Shiiqu waa run, taageerada quwadahu shiisheeye ayuu kasbaday marka siday u egtahay waa shaqsiga haatan Somalia marxalada ay ku sugantahay wax ka badali karo. Waa shaqsi magac diimeed huwan isla markiina gacan saar la leh wadamada galbeed.

 

Laakiin inuu Shiiqu dariiqiisu yahay wadciga Alle ka farxinayso iyo in kale waa su'aal aakhiro samaan nalooga jawaabi doono. Taasi waa xaqiiq.

 

p.s. As for Jiniqoow, he came back to Xamar last month and has since been escorted around by the foreign troops who expelled his organization. That is all I will say on the subject.