RedSea Posted January 14, 2009 AUDIO. Pay attention to Minutes 26-27. Ahmed Godane makes a sound argument. I can't believe Sheekh Shariif Ahmed betrayed his country like that. What a shameful person. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Libaax-Sankataabte Posted January 14, 2009 Thanks for posting this. Great stuff. Sheikh Godane has made great sacrifices for his people, religion and country. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Libaax-Sankataabte Posted January 14, 2009 Thanks for posting this. Great stuff. Sheikh Godane has made great sacrifices for his people, religion and country. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Libaax-Sankataabte Posted January 14, 2009 Thanks for posting this. Great stuff. Sheikh Godane has made great sacrifices for his people, religion and country. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted January 14, 2009 One has to agree with Red Sea Janagow lost the argument and he was one of the best characters in the Clan Courts movement.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted January 14, 2009 One has to agree with Red Sea Janagow lost the argument and he was one of the best characters in the Clan Courts movement.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted January 14, 2009 One has to agree with Red Sea Janagow lost the argument and he was one of the best characters in the Clan Courts movement.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedSea Posted January 14, 2009 You wlc LST. This guy named Calan wade summed it up: Abu-Zubayr He argued objectively, in which he demonstrated suitably. All the citations and reference he made from the Quran, the Sunnah, the understanding of early Islamic scholars, and the Somali poems were relevant according to his argument. He proved to all Somalis that he has the vision and a clear mental picture of what he was advocating for. Hence, unlike what many people pronounce and accuse the group’s leadership, i.e. they are emotional or frustrated or lack of strategy. In contrast, he attested all asserts of a kind. He scholarly crossed his message to both friends and foe. I believe he has a place in the history books, even if he breathes his last breath tonight. I am not saying that he was right, but my judgement is; his argument was strong, relevant, concurrent, well structured and he validated. Besides he was passionate, self-confident and a genius person. Janaqoow His argument was defensive. Thus (let alone to match Abu-Zubayr’s) his argument could not be an answer to Abu-Zubair’s strong argument. His claim such as; to obey the leadership (perhaps he meant Djibouti function) and the examples he deduced from the Ali and Muawiye wars were not pertinent. During his contestations he caused more harm to already damaged Somalis through clannish lines by referring Abu-Zubar as a foreigner. He was also gender bias by relating (in his shambles example) women and ignorance, which I was stunned by listening him and was not expecting from somebody of his capacity to make such reference. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedSea Posted January 14, 2009 You wlc LST. This guy named Calan wade summed it up: Abu-Zubayr He argued objectively, in which he demonstrated suitably. All the citations and reference he made from the Quran, the Sunnah, the understanding of early Islamic scholars, and the Somali poems were relevant according to his argument. He proved to all Somalis that he has the vision and a clear mental picture of what he was advocating for. Hence, unlike what many people pronounce and accuse the group’s leadership, i.e. they are emotional or frustrated or lack of strategy. In contrast, he attested all asserts of a kind. He scholarly crossed his message to both friends and foe. I believe he has a place in the history books, even if he breathes his last breath tonight. I am not saying that he was right, but my judgement is; his argument was strong, relevant, concurrent, well structured and he validated. Besides he was passionate, self-confident and a genius person. Janaqoow His argument was defensive. Thus (let alone to match Abu-Zubayr’s) his argument could not be an answer to Abu-Zubair’s strong argument. His claim such as; to obey the leadership (perhaps he meant Djibouti function) and the examples he deduced from the Ali and Muawiye wars were not pertinent. During his contestations he caused more harm to already damaged Somalis through clannish lines by referring Abu-Zubar as a foreigner. He was also gender bias by relating (in his shambles example) women and ignorance, which I was stunned by listening him and was not expecting from somebody of his capacity to make such reference. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedSea Posted January 14, 2009 You wlc LST. This guy named Calan wade summed it up: Abu-Zubayr He argued objectively, in which he demonstrated suitably. All the citations and reference he made from the Quran, the Sunnah, the understanding of early Islamic scholars, and the Somali poems were relevant according to his argument. He proved to all Somalis that he has the vision and a clear mental picture of what he was advocating for. Hence, unlike what many people pronounce and accuse the group’s leadership, i.e. they are emotional or frustrated or lack of strategy. In contrast, he attested all asserts of a kind. He scholarly crossed his message to both friends and foe. I believe he has a place in the history books, even if he breathes his last breath tonight. I am not saying that he was right, but my judgement is; his argument was strong, relevant, concurrent, well structured and he validated. Besides he was passionate, self-confident and a genius person. Janaqoow His argument was defensive. Thus (let alone to match Abu-Zubayr’s) his argument could not be an answer to Abu-Zubair’s strong argument. His claim such as; to obey the leadership (perhaps he meant Djibouti function) and the examples he deduced from the Ali and Muawiye wars were not pertinent. During his contestations he caused more harm to already damaged Somalis through clannish lines by referring Abu-Zubar as a foreigner. He was also gender bias by relating (in his shambles example) women and ignorance, which I was stunned by listening him and was not expecting from somebody of his capacity to make such reference. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Suldaanka Posted January 14, 2009 Ina Godane inu reer Salaxley yahay waxa ku garataa gabayga uu tirinaayo. Waarimayside war ha kaa hadho. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Suldaanka Posted January 14, 2009 Ina Godane inu reer Salaxley yahay waxa ku garataa gabayga uu tirinaayo. Waarimayside war ha kaa hadho. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Suldaanka Posted January 14, 2009 Ina Godane inu reer Salaxley yahay waxa ku garataa gabayga uu tirinaayo. Waarimayside war ha kaa hadho. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fabregas Posted January 14, 2009 quote:He scholarly crossed his message to both friends and foe That is the problem. He is not a scholar nor close to it. Yet they declaring takfir like no mans business. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fabregas Posted January 14, 2009 quote:He scholarly crossed his message to both friends and foe That is the problem. He is not a scholar nor close to it. Yet they declaring takfir like no mans business. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites