TFG vs. ICU

[Coloow]

Kush,

 

That was my line saaxib! People might think Kush=Caaqil.

 

 

Anyway, my catch is this:

 

a) the TFG contains a list of who is who in terms of killing, raping, maiming, and raping the somali nation. Their supporters are tribal bigots who wouldn't rest untill their next of kin become president. They have been "selected" or selected each other with the blessing of the madax korankor and Tigres. How can a sane somali side with Abdullahi Yusuf (whose mantra has been madaxweyne mar i dhaha since 1975? Caydid Jr, Hiraale? Suudi Yuluxow, Qanyare and the other thugs who brought us the havoc, the division of our nation, the turnining of brother on brother). These thugs should be prosecuted for making somali the nation of maruading gangs.

 

b) The IUC which appears to be a new force based on a different principle; No to tribalism, a different kind of rule; Thus far even the staunchest critics admit that they have brought law and order ( a scarce commodity in Muqdisho), discuss reconciliation etc.

 

It is a pity that some contributers to this forum are concerned with tribally driven discourse than on pragmatism.

 

To take a position on somalia one has to look at the mother, the child and the helpless people in Muqdisho. These people have been held hostages by warlords; Killing and abuses were a common thing; the warlords started skirmishes to consolidate their position of power. Actually, the last years every son that makes 15 was a candidate to become a ******. What is the situation of this mother now??????

 

Clearly, the discourse on this place (particularly from those supporting the defunct TFG) has the starting point of claiming that any person who supports the IUC is tribally related to the leaders ( look at the latent statements that the IUC are clan courts by particular tribes) or the equal sign between the IUC and USC.

 

I am not from the south, I never belonged to the USC, my tribe (I don't blv in it) is not represented on the IUC leadership, I am not to use neo-political discourse terminology an islamist, yet I have taken a sober decision based on what is good for our people, somalis- and come to the conclusion that thus far the IUC appears to be the only body that could bring long lasting peace.

 

Places like somaliaonline should be an oasis for different opinions and I am not for censoring what people write but we should discuss whether there is anything good in the tribal propaganda that we read on this place. Sometimes the link between opinion and tribalism ( maligma) is clear.

 

Wa assalamu calaykum

[Shakti]

Originally posted by Juje:

^^There is a Somali Doctor (psychiatrist) who specialises in talking to and healing personalities who suffer from 'naceyb' against other inviduals purely on the reason of tribalism. He has helped a lot of people. I can recommend you to him, you seriously need him.

lol.. can i get his name plz, i need some help with my naceyb for arabs. yes, im taking my 1st step 2 recovery

 

p.s very noteworthy thread on our current political situation, i must say..

I didn’t think I would find anything interesting in this section but I guess u proved me wrong

[Shakti]

Originally posted by Juje:

^^There is a Somali Doctor (psychiatrist) who specialises in talking to and healing personalities who suffer from 'naceyb' against other inviduals purely on the reason of tribalism. He has helped a lot of people. I can recommend you to him, you seriously need him.

lol.. can i get his name plz, i need some help with my naceyb for arabs. yes, im taking my 1st step 2 recovery

 

p.s very noteworthy thread on our current political situation, i must say..

I didn’t think I would find anything interesting in this section but I guess u proved me wrong

[Shakti]

Originally posted by Juje:

^^There is a Somali Doctor (psychiatrist) who specialises in talking to and healing personalities who suffer from 'naceyb' against other inviduals purely on the reason of tribalism. He has helped a lot of people. I can recommend you to him, you seriously need him.

lol.. can i get his name plz, i need some help with my naceyb for arabs. yes, im taking my 1st step 2 recovery

 

p.s very noteworthy thread on our current political situation, i must say..

I didn’t think I would find anything interesting in this section but I guess u proved me wrong

[Kamalu Diin]

Their supporters are tribal bigots who wouldn't rest untill their next of kin become president.

what do you say about the supporters of the USC/ICU be fair?

with the blessing of the madax korankor and Tigres. How can a sane somali side with Abdullahi Yusuf

what do you say about the TERRORIST pouring into our beloved country.

whose mantra has been madaxweyne mar i dhaha since 1975? Caydid Jr, Hiraale? Suudi Yuluxow, Qanyare and the other thugs who brought us the havoc, the division of our nation, the turnining of brother on brother

You missed many more ABDIQASIM, DAHIR AWEYS, AND INDHA CADE! WICH STANDS USC/ICU. ICU in your eyes they don't stand for division. Ehe

These thugs should be prosecuted for making somali the nation of maruading gangs.

And the other side you omitted for reason.

The IUC which appears to be a new force based on a different principle

these don't they become to power by force and did they attempted to bring to Somalia under their control by force. qiilkay leeyihiin ma ii sheegi kartaa.

No to tribalism, a different kind of rule;

they use more in manner that is very weard ah under divide and rule LOCAL AYAA NOO YEERTAY. a pretext. different kind of rule you mention is wax aan horey loo arag waaye under Diin and Nationalism banner.

discuss reconciliation etc

do you think they want that. yaabka yaabkiisa.

To take a position on somalia one has to look at the mother, the child and the helpless people in Muqdisho. These people have been held hostages by warlords; Killing and abuses were a common thing; the warlords started skirmishes to consolidate their position of power. Actually, the last years every son that makes 15 was a candidate to become a ******. What is the situation of this mother now??????

Mogadishu has been divided by QOLOOYIN HUB SIDO IYO KU SACABOOLEY AH. and you only discribing the condition of one group has been living under and extending/generalizing as it has been shared across MOGADISHU. These people USC/ICU iyaa is baday sxb and they only been missing Government. Hadan maslaxadooda waxaa ay garteen markii uu A/Y come to power si in ay dhaxal u leeyhiinoo kale. These people are dreaming.

I am not from the south, I never belonged to the USC, my tribe (I don't blv in it) is not represented on the IUC leadership

I know that you are not from the south but the Mendera. and what is the relationship Mrle and dgdye to do with Souther Somalia.

I have taken a sober decision based on what is good for our people, somalis- and come to the conclusion that thus far the IUC appears to be the only body that could bring long lasting peace

It could be nice, but you are not! since the tribes has been victimizing one another, and they cannot trust each other good example is USC/ICU could not trust A/Y. what it is wrong power sharing system where every tribe majority or minority could get his

fair share.

Places like somaliaonline should be an oasis for different opinions and I am not for censoring what people write but we should discuss whether there is anything good in the tribal propaganda that we read on this place

car aan taas kuugu diido/ this is one thing that I don't oppose you. stop WHAT YOU DOING FIRST>

Sometimes the link between opinion and tribalism ( maligma) is clear.

If you don't want to categorize people and talk about their need then why you did in NFD because they share identity right.

you are funny man.l

[Kamalu Diin]

Their supporters are tribal bigots who wouldn't rest untill their next of kin become president.

what do you say about the supporters of the USC/ICU be fair?

with the blessing of the madax korankor and Tigres. How can a sane somali side with Abdullahi Yusuf

what do you say about the TERRORIST pouring into our beloved country.

whose mantra has been madaxweyne mar i dhaha since 1975? Caydid Jr, Hiraale? Suudi Yuluxow, Qanyare and the other thugs who brought us the havoc, the division of our nation, the turnining of brother on brother

You missed many more ABDIQASIM, DAHIR AWEYS, AND INDHA CADE! WICH STANDS USC/ICU. ICU in your eyes they don't stand for division. Ehe

These thugs should be prosecuted for making somali the nation of maruading gangs.

And the other side you omitted for reason.

The IUC which appears to be a new force based on a different principle

these don't they become to power by force and did they attempted to bring to Somalia under their control by force. qiilkay leeyihiin ma ii sheegi kartaa.

No to tribalism, a different kind of rule;

they use more in manner that is very weard ah under divide and rule LOCAL AYAA NOO YEERTAY. a pretext. different kind of rule you mention is wax aan horey loo arag waaye under Diin and Nationalism banner.

discuss reconciliation etc

do you think they want that. yaabka yaabkiisa.

To take a position on somalia one has to look at the mother, the child and the helpless people in Muqdisho. These people have been held hostages by warlords; Killing and abuses were a common thing; the warlords started skirmishes to consolidate their position of power. Actually, the last years every son that makes 15 was a candidate to become a ******. What is the situation of this mother now??????

Mogadishu has been divided by QOLOOYIN HUB SIDO IYO KU SACABOOLEY AH. and you only discribing the condition of one group has been living under and extending/generalizing as it has been shared across MOGADISHU. These people USC/ICU iyaa is baday sxb and they only been missing Government. Hadan maslaxadooda waxaa ay garteen markii uu A/Y come to power si in ay dhaxal u leeyhiinoo kale. These people are dreaming.

I am not from the south, I never belonged to the USC, my tribe (I don't blv in it) is not represented on the IUC leadership

I know that you are not from the south but the Mendera. and what is the relationship Mrle and dgdye to do with Souther Somalia.

I have taken a sober decision based on what is good for our people, somalis- and come to the conclusion that thus far the IUC appears to be the only body that could bring long lasting peace

It could be nice, but you are not! since the tribes has been victimizing one another, and they cannot trust each other good example is USC/ICU could not trust A/Y. what it is wrong power sharing system where every tribe majority or minority could get his

fair share.

Places like somaliaonline should be an oasis for different opinions and I am not for censoring what people write but we should discuss whether there is anything good in the tribal propaganda that we read on this place

car aan taas kuugu diido/ this is one thing that I don't oppose you. stop WHAT YOU DOING FIRST>

Sometimes the link between opinion and tribalism ( maligma) is clear.

If you don't want to categorize people and talk about their need then why you did in NFD because they share identity right.

you are funny man.l

[Kamalu Diin]

Their supporters are tribal bigots who wouldn't rest untill their next of kin become president.

what do you say about the supporters of the USC/ICU be fair?

with the blessing of the madax korankor and Tigres. How can a sane somali side with Abdullahi Yusuf

what do you say about the TERRORIST pouring into our beloved country.

whose mantra has been madaxweyne mar i dhaha since 1975? Caydid Jr, Hiraale? Suudi Yuluxow, Qanyare and the other thugs who brought us the havoc, the division of our nation, the turnining of brother on brother

You missed many more ABDIQASIM, DAHIR AWEYS, AND INDHA CADE! WICH STANDS USC/ICU. ICU in your eyes they don't stand for division. Ehe

These thugs should be prosecuted for making somali the nation of maruading gangs.

And the other side you omitted for reason.

The IUC which appears to be a new force based on a different principle

these don't they become to power by force and did they attempted to bring to Somalia under their control by force. qiilkay leeyihiin ma ii sheegi kartaa.

No to tribalism, a different kind of rule;

they use more in manner that is very weard ah under divide and rule LOCAL AYAA NOO YEERTAY. a pretext. different kind of rule you mention is wax aan horey loo arag waaye under Diin and Nationalism banner.

discuss reconciliation etc

do you think they want that. yaabka yaabkiisa.

To take a position on somalia one has to look at the mother, the child and the helpless people in Muqdisho. These people have been held hostages by warlords; Killing and abuses were a common thing; the warlords started skirmishes to consolidate their position of power. Actually, the last years every son that makes 15 was a candidate to become a ******. What is the situation of this mother now??????

Mogadishu has been divided by QOLOOYIN HUB SIDO IYO KU SACABOOLEY AH. and you only discribing the condition of one group has been living under and extending/generalizing as it has been shared across MOGADISHU. These people USC/ICU iyaa is baday sxb and they only been missing Government. Hadan maslaxadooda waxaa ay garteen markii uu A/Y come to power si in ay dhaxal u leeyhiinoo kale. These people are dreaming.

I am not from the south, I never belonged to the USC, my tribe (I don't blv in it) is not represented on the IUC leadership

I know that you are not from the south but the Mendera. and what is the relationship Mrle and dgdye to do with Souther Somalia.

I have taken a sober decision based on what is good for our people, somalis- and come to the conclusion that thus far the IUC appears to be the only body that could bring long lasting peace

It could be nice, but you are not! since the tribes has been victimizing one another, and they cannot trust each other good example is USC/ICU could not trust A/Y. what it is wrong power sharing system where every tribe majority or minority could get his

fair share.

Places like somaliaonline should be an oasis for different opinions and I am not for censoring what people write but we should discuss whether there is anything good in the tribal propaganda that we read on this place

car aan taas kuugu diido/ this is one thing that I don't oppose you. stop WHAT YOU DOING FIRST>

Sometimes the link between opinion and tribalism ( maligma) is clear.

If you don't want to categorize people and talk about their need then why you did in NFD because they share identity right.

you are funny man.l

[Coloow]

Kamaludiin,I have read your reply and you give a shallow rebuff that is not worth replying to. Usually, I hardly reply to this kind of nacnac but I am going to do an exception and attempt to reply in case it might help you understand.

 

First and foremost, I hope the editors edit your tribal rants from this thread (dgl, mrl etc). If that would make you happy I am not from those tribes you mentioned.

 

Most of the members of the USC are holed in Baidoa together with most of the members of the sick organisations.

 

Who are the terrorists you are talking about? This must be a childish thing. I thought you were a little bit better. The terrorits most somalis know of are in Baidoa. If anything it is they who should be faught.

 

Add Abdiqasim to the list of warlords and Aweys. But let us give the benefit of the doubt to Aweys because he repented; asked for forgiveness- this is a pillar of our faith.

 

The NFD is home to somalis and under the rule of colonial masters. I hate colonialism and love self determination . what is wrong with that?

 

Son, your rants on SOL is getting out of hand. I am for when someone uses arguments but becoming a blind follower of a tribal opinion is a disease. I pray that Allah helps you to become a good somali, discuss and analyse issues from a somali perspective.

 

You have hit low when you mentioned that I am from mandera and as such belong to either the "Mrle and dgdye ". this is paranoia. You try to find the reason why I support the IUC and the only thing you could come up with was this???????

 

Walaahi, with this kind of opionen you are sinking the quality of this place.

[Coloow]

Kamaludiin,I have read your reply and you give a shallow rebuff that is not worth replying to. Usually, I hardly reply to this kind of nacnac but I am going to do an exception and attempt to reply in case it might help you understand.

 

First and foremost, I hope the editors edit your tribal rants from this thread (dgl, mrl etc). If that would make you happy I am not from those tribes you mentioned.

 

Most of the members of the USC are holed in Baidoa together with most of the members of the sick organisations.

 

Who are the terrorists you are talking about? This must be a childish thing. I thought you were a little bit better. The terrorits most somalis know of are in Baidoa. If anything it is they who should be faught.

 

Add Abdiqasim to the list of warlords and Aweys. But let us give the benefit of the doubt to Aweys because he repented; asked for forgiveness- this is a pillar of our faith.

 

The NFD is home to somalis and under the rule of colonial masters. I hate colonialism and love self determination . what is wrong with that?

 

Son, your rants on SOL is getting out of hand. I am for when someone uses arguments but becoming a blind follower of a tribal opinion is a disease. I pray that Allah helps you to become a good somali, discuss and analyse issues from a somali perspective.

 

You have hit low when you mentioned that I am from mandera and as such belong to either the "Mrle and dgdye ". this is paranoia. You try to find the reason why I support the IUC and the only thing you could come up with was this???????

 

Walaahi, with this kind of opionen you are sinking the quality of this place.

[Coloow]

Kamaludiin,I have read your reply and you give a shallow rebuff that is not worth replying to. Usually, I hardly reply to this kind of nacnac but I am going to do an exception and attempt to reply in case it might help you understand.

 

First and foremost, I hope the editors edit your tribal rants from this thread (dgl, mrl etc). If that would make you happy I am not from those tribes you mentioned.

 

Most of the members of the USC are holed in Baidoa together with most of the members of the sick organisations.

 

Who are the terrorists you are talking about? This must be a childish thing. I thought you were a little bit better. The terrorits most somalis know of are in Baidoa. If anything it is they who should be faught.

 

Add Abdiqasim to the list of warlords and Aweys. But let us give the benefit of the doubt to Aweys because he repented; asked for forgiveness- this is a pillar of our faith.

 

The NFD is home to somalis and under the rule of colonial masters. I hate colonialism and love self determination . what is wrong with that?

 

Son, your rants on SOL is getting out of hand. I am for when someone uses arguments but becoming a blind follower of a tribal opinion is a disease. I pray that Allah helps you to become a good somali, discuss and analyse issues from a somali perspective.

 

You have hit low when you mentioned that I am from mandera and as such belong to either the "Mrle and dgdye ". this is paranoia. You try to find the reason why I support the IUC and the only thing you could come up with was this???????

 

Walaahi, with this kind of opionen you are sinking the quality of this place.