Abwaan Posted August 5, 2009 Originally posted by Farancab: quote:Originally posted by Ducaysane: Sheekhu bilcaanta Clinton ah ma salaami doonaa tolow? I guess it will be live, don't miss it! lol...anba waan is weydiinayey? I think he will! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedSea Posted August 5, 2009 Originally posted by Ducaysane: Sheekhu bilcaanta Clinton ah ma salaami doonaa tolow? He is gonna kiss her on the cheek. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedSea Posted August 5, 2009 Originally posted by Ducaysane: Sheekhu bilcaanta Clinton ah ma salaami doonaa tolow? He is gonna kiss her on the cheek. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedSea Posted August 5, 2009 Originally posted by Ducaysane: Sheekhu bilcaanta Clinton ah ma salaami doonaa tolow? He is gonna kiss her on the cheek. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted August 5, 2009 weak ones as usual labor mightly to comment on what will happen in the future. strong men in leadership do what they are supposed to do: they just lead and transform. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted August 5, 2009 weak ones as usual labor mightly to comment on what will happen in the future. strong men in leadership do what they are supposed to do: they just lead and transform. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted August 5, 2009 weak ones as usual labor mightly to comment on what will happen in the future. strong men in leadership do what they are supposed to do: they just lead and transform. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peace Action Posted August 6, 2009 Clinton to hold key Somalia talks Hillary Clinton will meet a host of African leaders on her 11-day tour US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is due to hold talks with Somali President Sheikh Sharif Sheikh Ahmed in Kenya's capital, Nairobi. She is expected to confirm America's backing for Somalia's beleaguered transitional government. Much of Somalia is in the hands of opposition forces, including the Islamist insurgent group al-Shabab. More than 250,000 Somalis have fled their homes because of the fighting over the past three months. Mrs Clinton will hold talks with the UN-backed Somali leader on the second day of her African tour. Wreath-laying Before Thursday's meeting, she will honour the victims of the August 1998 attacks on the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, in a wreath-laying ceremony in Nairobi. It [al-Shabab] poses a threat to Kenya, poses a threat to the stability of Africa and beyond Hillary Clinton President Ahmed needs all the support he can get, says the BBC's Will Ross in Nairobi. Pro-government forces are only in control of a small section of the capital Mogadishu. There are reports that al-Shabab - which favours strict Islamic law - is gaining support from extremists around the world, our correspondent says. Earlier this week, police in Australia arrested several men, charging them with planning suicide attacks on a base in Sydney and saying they were linked to al-Shabab. Our correspondent points out it is far too dangerous for the American secretary of state to venture into Somalia, as the fighting continues. Speaking on the sidelines of an economic summit on Wednesday, Mrs Clinton said: "We know we're facing a very difficult conflict, and we also know that the presence of al-Shabab and terrorist elements within Somalia poses a threat," reports Reuters news agency. "It poses a threat to Kenya, poses a threat to the stability of Africa and beyond. So this is an area where we're going to work even more closely together." Al-Shabab controls swathes of Somalia Somalia's Foreign Minister, Muhammad Abdullahi Omar, told the BBC's Network Africa programme why US involvement in the region was so important. He said: "The golden situation now is that the major global power in the world is today engaged... seriously engaged in helping the government of Somalia to establish stability and peace in the country." The US admits it has supplied pro-government forces in Somalia with over 40 tonnes of weapons and ammunition this year, and another delivery of weapons is predicted, says our correspondent. But there are growing fears that the Horn of Africa country - which has been without an effective central government since 1991 - risks becoming a haven for terrorists. 'Enormous potential' On Wednesday, Mrs Clinton held talks in Nairobi with Kenya's president and prime minister. CLINTON'S AFRICAN TOUR Kenya South Africa Nigeria Angola Liberia Democratic Republic of Congo Cape Verde America's top diplomat described as disappointing Kenya's failure to investigate a bout of deadly violence after the 2007 election and urged the authorities to end impunity. At least 1,300 people were killed in two months of violence, but the cabinet has resisted calls for a tribunal. Addressing African leaders at Wednesday's economic summit, Mrs Clinton said the continent had "enormous potential for progress". But she stressed that harnessing that potential would require democracy and good governance. During her 11-day trip Mrs Clinton will also visit South Africa, Nigeria, Angola, Liberia, the Democratic Republic of Congo and Cape Verde Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peace Action Posted August 6, 2009 Clinton to hold key Somalia talks Hillary Clinton will meet a host of African leaders on her 11-day tour US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is due to hold talks with Somali President Sheikh Sharif Sheikh Ahmed in Kenya's capital, Nairobi. She is expected to confirm America's backing for Somalia's beleaguered transitional government. Much of Somalia is in the hands of opposition forces, including the Islamist insurgent group al-Shabab. More than 250,000 Somalis have fled their homes because of the fighting over the past three months. Mrs Clinton will hold talks with the UN-backed Somali leader on the second day of her African tour. Wreath-laying Before Thursday's meeting, she will honour the victims of the August 1998 attacks on the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, in a wreath-laying ceremony in Nairobi. It [al-Shabab] poses a threat to Kenya, poses a threat to the stability of Africa and beyond Hillary Clinton President Ahmed needs all the support he can get, says the BBC's Will Ross in Nairobi. Pro-government forces are only in control of a small section of the capital Mogadishu. There are reports that al-Shabab - which favours strict Islamic law - is gaining support from extremists around the world, our correspondent says. Earlier this week, police in Australia arrested several men, charging them with planning suicide attacks on a base in Sydney and saying they were linked to al-Shabab. Our correspondent points out it is far too dangerous for the American secretary of state to venture into Somalia, as the fighting continues. Speaking on the sidelines of an economic summit on Wednesday, Mrs Clinton said: "We know we're facing a very difficult conflict, and we also know that the presence of al-Shabab and terrorist elements within Somalia poses a threat," reports Reuters news agency. "It poses a threat to Kenya, poses a threat to the stability of Africa and beyond. So this is an area where we're going to work even more closely together." Al-Shabab controls swathes of Somalia Somalia's Foreign Minister, Muhammad Abdullahi Omar, told the BBC's Network Africa programme why US involvement in the region was so important. He said: "The golden situation now is that the major global power in the world is today engaged... seriously engaged in helping the government of Somalia to establish stability and peace in the country." The US admits it has supplied pro-government forces in Somalia with over 40 tonnes of weapons and ammunition this year, and another delivery of weapons is predicted, says our correspondent. But there are growing fears that the Horn of Africa country - which has been without an effective central government since 1991 - risks becoming a haven for terrorists. 'Enormous potential' On Wednesday, Mrs Clinton held talks in Nairobi with Kenya's president and prime minister. CLINTON'S AFRICAN TOUR Kenya South Africa Nigeria Angola Liberia Democratic Republic of Congo Cape Verde America's top diplomat described as disappointing Kenya's failure to investigate a bout of deadly violence after the 2007 election and urged the authorities to end impunity. At least 1,300 people were killed in two months of violence, but the cabinet has resisted calls for a tribunal. Addressing African leaders at Wednesday's economic summit, Mrs Clinton said the continent had "enormous potential for progress". But she stressed that harnessing that potential would require democracy and good governance. During her 11-day trip Mrs Clinton will also visit South Africa, Nigeria, Angola, Liberia, the Democratic Republic of Congo and Cape Verde Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peace Action Posted August 6, 2009 Clinton to hold key Somalia talks Hillary Clinton will meet a host of African leaders on her 11-day tour US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is due to hold talks with Somali President Sheikh Sharif Sheikh Ahmed in Kenya's capital, Nairobi. She is expected to confirm America's backing for Somalia's beleaguered transitional government. Much of Somalia is in the hands of opposition forces, including the Islamist insurgent group al-Shabab. More than 250,000 Somalis have fled their homes because of the fighting over the past three months. Mrs Clinton will hold talks with the UN-backed Somali leader on the second day of her African tour. Wreath-laying Before Thursday's meeting, she will honour the victims of the August 1998 attacks on the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, in a wreath-laying ceremony in Nairobi. It [al-Shabab] poses a threat to Kenya, poses a threat to the stability of Africa and beyond Hillary Clinton President Ahmed needs all the support he can get, says the BBC's Will Ross in Nairobi. Pro-government forces are only in control of a small section of the capital Mogadishu. There are reports that al-Shabab - which favours strict Islamic law - is gaining support from extremists around the world, our correspondent says. Earlier this week, police in Australia arrested several men, charging them with planning suicide attacks on a base in Sydney and saying they were linked to al-Shabab. Our correspondent points out it is far too dangerous for the American secretary of state to venture into Somalia, as the fighting continues. Speaking on the sidelines of an economic summit on Wednesday, Mrs Clinton said: "We know we're facing a very difficult conflict, and we also know that the presence of al-Shabab and terrorist elements within Somalia poses a threat," reports Reuters news agency. "It poses a threat to Kenya, poses a threat to the stability of Africa and beyond. So this is an area where we're going to work even more closely together." Al-Shabab controls swathes of Somalia Somalia's Foreign Minister, Muhammad Abdullahi Omar, told the BBC's Network Africa programme why US involvement in the region was so important. He said: "The golden situation now is that the major global power in the world is today engaged... seriously engaged in helping the government of Somalia to establish stability and peace in the country." The US admits it has supplied pro-government forces in Somalia with over 40 tonnes of weapons and ammunition this year, and another delivery of weapons is predicted, says our correspondent. But there are growing fears that the Horn of Africa country - which has been without an effective central government since 1991 - risks becoming a haven for terrorists. 'Enormous potential' On Wednesday, Mrs Clinton held talks in Nairobi with Kenya's president and prime minister. CLINTON'S AFRICAN TOUR Kenya South Africa Nigeria Angola Liberia Democratic Republic of Congo Cape Verde America's top diplomat described as disappointing Kenya's failure to investigate a bout of deadly violence after the 2007 election and urged the authorities to end impunity. At least 1,300 people were killed in two months of violence, but the cabinet has resisted calls for a tribunal. Addressing African leaders at Wednesday's economic summit, Mrs Clinton said the continent had "enormous potential for progress". But she stressed that harnessing that potential would require democracy and good governance. During her 11-day trip Mrs Clinton will also visit South Africa, Nigeria, Angola, Liberia, the Democratic Republic of Congo and Cape Verde Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar Posted August 6, 2009 I can't believe the 'handshake' topic made into as a serious and established paper as Washington Post. In Somalia, a Twist on 'Handshake Diplomacy' NAIROBI, Aug. 5 -- Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton and Somali President Sharif Ahmed are expected to discuss weighty security issues when they meet in this city Thursday. But many Somalis will be paying close attention to a more delicate, but highly symbolic, matter of diplomacy: whether the two will shake hands. "The talk is everywhere," said Abdirhaman Mumin, a Somali sugar exporter who is hoping for the handshake. "Will he or won't he? For many people, whether he's loyal to Islam or not depends on the handshake." Somalia is a traditionally moderate Muslim country. Music and poetry are treasured, and handshaking between men and women -- taboo according to some conservative readings of Islam -- has long been considered normal. But since the collapse of the last central government in 1991, a more conservative strain of Islam has taken hold, with Somalis depending more on Islamic law to establish order. Ahmed, a former geography teacher and Islamic scholar, was the widely respected leader of a movement of Islamist courts that briefly took power in 2006 and imposed a more strict interpretation of Islamic law. The movement was soon ousted in a U.S.-backed Ethiopian invasion fueled by accusations that the movement's military wing, known as al-Shabab, had ties to al-Qaeda. These days, a more resolutely moderate Ahmed is back in power and battling the Shabab, which broke with him and now controls much of southern Somalia. Increasingly, though, its members are rebels without a cause. They lost one of their main battle cries when the Ethiopian army withdrew from Somalia. They lost another recently, when Ahmed heeded a popular call and adopted Islamic law for the country. And so, at the moment, the Shabab is relying heavily on portraying Ahmed as an "impure" Muslim, a puppet of the West, a turncoat. Last week, pro-Shabab Web sites were speculating about a possible shake between Ahmed and Clinton, arguing that, were it to come to fruition, it would prove that Ahmed had lost credibility with Islamists. Some Somalis have argued that Sharif should refrain from pressing palms, if only to keep the Shabab from scoring a public relations victory. "If they shake hands, they'll definitely use it as propaganda," said one Somali analyst who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the Shabab is known to target critics. ad_icon But in recent interviews with Somali exiles -- a generally moderate bunch -- most said they are in favor of the handshake, a view that reflects their cautious optimism about U.S. support for Ahmed, usually referred to as Sheikh Sharif. The United States recently shipped 40 tons of ammunition to help the government fight the rebels. The pro-shake crowd also reflects a deep-seated desire among many Somalis to shed their image as citizens of one of the most dysfunctional and anarchic countries in the world. "I think it's good for him to shake hands," said Abdi Ibrahim, who was discussing the issue with friends at a cafe in Nairobi's bustling Eastleigh neighborhood. "Sheikh Sharif has to show Somalis that this is normal. Everyone shakes hands. Why should Somalis be different? Why the big deal? We need to join the world." "But," he added somewhat gloomily, "the insurgents will use it to say he has changed a lot -- maybe he shouldn't. I cannot say 100 percent." The former spokesman for the ousted Islamist courts movement, Abdirahim Issa Addou, said that in his view, Sharif is no longer interested in appeasing the Shabab and that "we need to show the Americans we're different." Following that line of reasoning, he said, Sharif should not just offer Clinton a hearty handshake. "To me, I'd go as far as kissing her," Addou joked. "But really, Sheikh Sharif is in a difficult position. "You know," he said with a sigh, "that Sharif has a lot of problems." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar Posted August 6, 2009 I can't believe the 'handshake' topic made into as a serious and established paper as Washington Post. In Somalia, a Twist on 'Handshake Diplomacy' NAIROBI, Aug. 5 -- Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton and Somali President Sharif Ahmed are expected to discuss weighty security issues when they meet in this city Thursday. But many Somalis will be paying close attention to a more delicate, but highly symbolic, matter of diplomacy: whether the two will shake hands. "The talk is everywhere," said Abdirhaman Mumin, a Somali sugar exporter who is hoping for the handshake. "Will he or won't he? For many people, whether he's loyal to Islam or not depends on the handshake." Somalia is a traditionally moderate Muslim country. Music and poetry are treasured, and handshaking between men and women -- taboo according to some conservative readings of Islam -- has long been considered normal. But since the collapse of the last central government in 1991, a more conservative strain of Islam has taken hold, with Somalis depending more on Islamic law to establish order. Ahmed, a former geography teacher and Islamic scholar, was the widely respected leader of a movement of Islamist courts that briefly took power in 2006 and imposed a more strict interpretation of Islamic law. The movement was soon ousted in a U.S.-backed Ethiopian invasion fueled by accusations that the movement's military wing, known as al-Shabab, had ties to al-Qaeda. These days, a more resolutely moderate Ahmed is back in power and battling the Shabab, which broke with him and now controls much of southern Somalia. Increasingly, though, its members are rebels without a cause. They lost one of their main battle cries when the Ethiopian army withdrew from Somalia. They lost another recently, when Ahmed heeded a popular call and adopted Islamic law for the country. And so, at the moment, the Shabab is relying heavily on portraying Ahmed as an "impure" Muslim, a puppet of the West, a turncoat. Last week, pro-Shabab Web sites were speculating about a possible shake between Ahmed and Clinton, arguing that, were it to come to fruition, it would prove that Ahmed had lost credibility with Islamists. Some Somalis have argued that Sharif should refrain from pressing palms, if only to keep the Shabab from scoring a public relations victory. "If they shake hands, they'll definitely use it as propaganda," said one Somali analyst who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the Shabab is known to target critics. ad_icon But in recent interviews with Somali exiles -- a generally moderate bunch -- most said they are in favor of the handshake, a view that reflects their cautious optimism about U.S. support for Ahmed, usually referred to as Sheikh Sharif. The United States recently shipped 40 tons of ammunition to help the government fight the rebels. The pro-shake crowd also reflects a deep-seated desire among many Somalis to shed their image as citizens of one of the most dysfunctional and anarchic countries in the world. "I think it's good for him to shake hands," said Abdi Ibrahim, who was discussing the issue with friends at a cafe in Nairobi's bustling Eastleigh neighborhood. "Sheikh Sharif has to show Somalis that this is normal. Everyone shakes hands. Why should Somalis be different? Why the big deal? We need to join the world." "But," he added somewhat gloomily, "the insurgents will use it to say he has changed a lot -- maybe he shouldn't. I cannot say 100 percent." The former spokesman for the ousted Islamist courts movement, Abdirahim Issa Addou, said that in his view, Sharif is no longer interested in appeasing the Shabab and that "we need to show the Americans we're different." Following that line of reasoning, he said, Sharif should not just offer Clinton a hearty handshake. "To me, I'd go as far as kissing her," Addou joked. "But really, Sheikh Sharif is in a difficult position. "You know," he said with a sigh, "that Sharif has a lot of problems." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar Posted August 6, 2009 I can't believe the 'handshake' topic made into as a serious and established paper as Washington Post. In Somalia, a Twist on 'Handshake Diplomacy' NAIROBI, Aug. 5 -- Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton and Somali President Sharif Ahmed are expected to discuss weighty security issues when they meet in this city Thursday. But many Somalis will be paying close attention to a more delicate, but highly symbolic, matter of diplomacy: whether the two will shake hands. "The talk is everywhere," said Abdirhaman Mumin, a Somali sugar exporter who is hoping for the handshake. "Will he or won't he? For many people, whether he's loyal to Islam or not depends on the handshake." Somalia is a traditionally moderate Muslim country. Music and poetry are treasured, and handshaking between men and women -- taboo according to some conservative readings of Islam -- has long been considered normal. But since the collapse of the last central government in 1991, a more conservative strain of Islam has taken hold, with Somalis depending more on Islamic law to establish order. Ahmed, a former geography teacher and Islamic scholar, was the widely respected leader of a movement of Islamist courts that briefly took power in 2006 and imposed a more strict interpretation of Islamic law. The movement was soon ousted in a U.S.-backed Ethiopian invasion fueled by accusations that the movement's military wing, known as al-Shabab, had ties to al-Qaeda. These days, a more resolutely moderate Ahmed is back in power and battling the Shabab, which broke with him and now controls much of southern Somalia. Increasingly, though, its members are rebels without a cause. They lost one of their main battle cries when the Ethiopian army withdrew from Somalia. They lost another recently, when Ahmed heeded a popular call and adopted Islamic law for the country. And so, at the moment, the Shabab is relying heavily on portraying Ahmed as an "impure" Muslim, a puppet of the West, a turncoat. Last week, pro-Shabab Web sites were speculating about a possible shake between Ahmed and Clinton, arguing that, were it to come to fruition, it would prove that Ahmed had lost credibility with Islamists. Some Somalis have argued that Sharif should refrain from pressing palms, if only to keep the Shabab from scoring a public relations victory. "If they shake hands, they'll definitely use it as propaganda," said one Somali analyst who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the Shabab is known to target critics. ad_icon But in recent interviews with Somali exiles -- a generally moderate bunch -- most said they are in favor of the handshake, a view that reflects their cautious optimism about U.S. support for Ahmed, usually referred to as Sheikh Sharif. The United States recently shipped 40 tons of ammunition to help the government fight the rebels. The pro-shake crowd also reflects a deep-seated desire among many Somalis to shed their image as citizens of one of the most dysfunctional and anarchic countries in the world. "I think it's good for him to shake hands," said Abdi Ibrahim, who was discussing the issue with friends at a cafe in Nairobi's bustling Eastleigh neighborhood. "Sheikh Sharif has to show Somalis that this is normal. Everyone shakes hands. Why should Somalis be different? Why the big deal? We need to join the world." "But," he added somewhat gloomily, "the insurgents will use it to say he has changed a lot -- maybe he shouldn't. I cannot say 100 percent." The former spokesman for the ousted Islamist courts movement, Abdirahim Issa Addou, said that in his view, Sharif is no longer interested in appeasing the Shabab and that "we need to show the Americans we're different." Following that line of reasoning, he said, Sharif should not just offer Clinton a hearty handshake. "To me, I'd go as far as kissing her," Addou joked. "But really, Sheikh Sharif is in a difficult position. "You know," he said with a sigh, "that Sharif has a lot of problems." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacaylbaro Posted August 6, 2009 Sharif prep'ing for Clinton meeting Preparing eh ?? ,,,,,, so he is taking shower using Zest, putting some perfume and probably buying a suit ,,,, Hair cut ?? ,, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacaylbaro Posted August 6, 2009 Sharif prep'ing for Clinton meeting Preparing eh ?? ,,,,,, so he is taking shower using Zest, putting some perfume and probably buying a suit ,,,, Hair cut ?? ,, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
