QUANTUM LEAP Posted February 24, 2004 Read on please and give commentary where necessary Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AYOUB Posted February 24, 2004 Shaqsii Interesting Article for the impartials.. This is definitely the right place to find impartials.. Second, a crucial difference from previous agreements is that the competing sides have agreed to operate a federal system, to come into effect in two years’ time. This was the key demand of the autonomous north-east region of Somalia known as Puntland, and exiled politicians from the republic of Somaliland in the north-west which in 1991 declared independence from the rest of the country. 'Exile politicians' with no mandate to represent Somaliland. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baashi Posted February 24, 2004 Shaqsii, Thanks for posting Harun Hassan's superb piece. I took a note and here it is. On the paradoxes: The bitter sweet of our predicament. "It is partly this mixture of functioning economic and technological processes alongside social disintegration that makes the Somali experience so bitter." On our neighbors: impartial friend or a cunning foe "But the role of the international community is itself ambiguous. The attitude of some foreign countries involved in the Somali peace process has shown evidence of conflicting interests." Concluding note: realistic optimism "A half-century’s mistrust and mismanagement is hard to overcome. But Somalis do share a Somali national identity and sense of belonging that can override the differences between them. The problems of accommodating these differences within a common institutional and political framework may be even greater in the age of proliferating small arms and landmines, and in conditions of great poverty; but the creative adaptation of Somali people in using new technologies shows that they will be able, if given the chance, to make a better country." P.S. The author made few strong points (opinions) without attacking anyone. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LANDER Posted February 24, 2004 The title is very interesting. I find the pro-somaliweyn ppl should look at it carefully and asked themselves the very question "Somalia: exit into history?" keep in mind Somalinimo and the concept of Somalia are not necessarilly inter-related. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted February 24, 2004 A good balanced argument is presented. Lander's point is that Somalia has exited now enter Somaliland, only time will tell. Somalia is improving the world needs a stable Somalia at peace with itself and one that can help further the development of the region. Djabouti and Ethiopia are as poor if not more than Somalia, this proves that functioning governments do not always produce social and economic prosperity. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BN Posted February 25, 2004 This is not an unbiased article. The root of their territorial claims partly lies in the colonial period; Puntland is part of the Somali territory colonised by Italy, while Somaliland is a former British protectorate. This is the PR line taken straight from the Hargeisa government. It's obvious this Harun Hassan is a so called Lander spy-in-disguise trying to subvert us from within. It wont work. Somaliweyn camp and Puntland is smarter then that. Keep trying tho Bn Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
QUANTUM LEAP Posted February 25, 2004 BariNom - Now what is so wrong with your history bro....Is there anything wrong with the fact based quotation below? The root of their territorial claims partly lies in the colonial period; Puntland is part of the Somali territory colonised by Italy, while Somaliland is a former British protectorate. If you disputing the above then perhaps you can elaborate more and tell us who did the above and the root causes. If I recal from my history lectures on the Scramble for Africa, Most of the lines where drawn by colonialist hence the problems that are apparent in Africa. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haashim Posted February 25, 2004 TRUTH in some extent But the history of these difficult years explains why caution rather than hope is the dominant sentiment at present for many Somalis. For although Somalis have found it difficult to reach an agreed political basis for their national community, among the many paradoxes of this East African country is that people’s use of the latest technological advances exceeds that of many other countries. Internet cafes, the latest mobile phones and digital communications are booming. It takes just £0.35 per minute to call from London to Mogadishu, the capital. FALSE in some extent This is the reason that a third neighbouring country, Kenya, widely seen as impartial in the Somalia conflict, was chosen as moderator of the crucial talks. The origins of the feuding lie in the events of 26 January 1991 when, after twenty-one years’ dictatorial government in Somalia, President Mohamed Siad Barre was overthrown by armed rebel movements. 100% TRUE But the role of the international community is itself ambiguous. The attitude of some foreign countries involved in the Somali peace process has shown evidence of conflicting interests. Somalia is justly regarded as one of the poorest and most backward places in the world. Finaly: Who can Somalis trust? unfortunately Nobody Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted February 25, 2004 Who can Somalis trust? unfortunately Nobody We need to start trusting each other. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sahal Posted February 27, 2004 Soomalidu waxay rumaysataa kan godka ku tuura isagayna dadka ugu jeceshahay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saxardiid Posted March 1, 2004 there are lots of truth in the artical and touches the heart of the somali problems. A half-century’s mistrust and mismanagement is hard to overcome. very true and its what is undermining all peace talks But Somalis do share a Somali national identity and sense of belonging that can override the differences between them. the jury is out for this statement but i wont hold my breath. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
QUANTUM LEAP Posted March 5, 2004 Somalis have never been known to like anything thats truthful and has their own interest at heart. The people are even suspicious of even their shadows ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites