Mogadishu and Foreign troops a conflicting factors

[Jumatatu]

President Yusuf is reluctant to sit in his throne at the centre of Somalia, Mogadishu. He has embarked on a mission and lobbied among the parliamantarians to shift the centre of power from Mogadishu to anywhere else in Somalia, citing all sorts of obstacles under the sun.

It is not a hidden secret for C/llahi's dislike of Mogadishu and its warlods and anyone who comes from there. But having skillfully manouvered to capturing the biggest seat in the reconciliation government he had to retreat from openly oppossing the idea, but the old wise man had other ways of doing it.

Like for instances calling for foreign troops, he knew this will irk the most stubborn of them, but eventually the response from the International Community was not to his liking initially, though later he got a verbal promise from the AU.

Now C/llahi knows among his allies in the SRRC are warlords from Mogadishu or its surrounding and helped him when this sit against a handful number of USC candidates, with that in mind he does not want to stir the pot and anger those supporters within the government ad parliament at this early stage. He himself is suprised at their 100% backing of him and remains suspicious. He knows and is experienced in this game, suspicious.

What ever the case C/llahi will not go to Mogadishu with the sole promise of all the warlords in his government, and cannot stay away from it cause all International donor countries have set a condition, that he and his government should be functioning from the centre of Somalia before they can be dealt with and their demands of aid met.

Hence the dilema is yet there and has come onto surface over the last few days with the Prime-minister being at the forefront of taking the government to Mogadishu and Colonel yeey not buying any of that rubbish call(well at least to him).

 

Quote from a script of the Presidents interview with BBC Somali-service on the question of returning to Mogadishu and why the foreign troops...note how he stirs from making a direct reference to it ..

BBC. Madaxweyne C/llaahi Yuusuf dad fara badan oo Soomaaliya ihi waxey is-weydiinayaan, halka dowladdu degeyso oo leysku raacay waa Muqdisho, dhibaatada xoogeeda wadanku halka ay ka jirtana waa Muqdisho, raggii hogaamiyeyaasha kooxaha ahaa ee maleeshiyada joogta loo tirin jiray in ay xukumaan dowladda ayey ka mid yihiin, marka maxaa loogu baahan yahay ciidan shisheeye in uu yimaado maadaama ogolaanshiyihii kooxaha la wada haysto.

C/llaahi Yuusuf. Aad baad u mahadsan tahay waa su’aal muhiim ah oo aad u wanaagsan, horta meesha la tegeyo Soomaaliya waa Soomaaliya oo aniga haddii la yiraa geed qurac ah hoostii ha la tago aniga diyaar ayaan u ahay, meesha la tegayo in ay Muqdisho tahay & in ay meel kale tahayna runtii wax xikmad ah oo ku jira ma jiraan oo Soomaaliya waa Soomaaliya, tan raggii hogaamiyeyaasha ee kooxaha hubeysan waa runtaa oo baarlamaanka ayey ka mid yihiin oo ay xubno ka yihiin xukuumaddana xoog bey u galeen oo waxyar baa ka maqan, waana ku kalsoonahay in ay diyaar u yihiin in ay hubka iska dhigaan laakiin dee keligood ma ahan wax hubeysane shacabkoo dhan & ummaddoo dhan baa hubeysan waxaa hubeysan oo dhanna qaar badan oo in aysan fiicneyn laga yaabo baa ku jira, dowladduna markey tagto maleeshiyo qoysnimo ku dhisan ka dhigan meyso ciidan oo noqon meyso sidii wax reer hoos tagta, inta aan ciidan Qaran oo Soomaaliyeed ka dhisaneyno wax badan qaadan meyso bilo yar bey qaadaneysaa bey ila tahaye, in ciidan amni oo xarunta dowladda ilaaliya ayaa Afrika looga baahan yahay, waxaa kaloo loo baahan yahay ciidankaas la dhisayo ciddii na la dhisi laheyd oo tababaridiisa gacan nagu siin laheyd, waxaa kaloo loo baahan yahay dekadaha & garoomada dayuuradaha & ilaha dhaqaalaha ciidan gacanta ku sii qabta, waayo dad qabaa’ila oo isa soo laayey ciidan maleeshiyo ah oo qoys qoys u dhisan ma oran karno howshaa iyagu ha fuliyeen, dad Soomaali ah oo isku jira oo keliya ayaa ciidan noo noqonaya, dad aan isku jirin, Soomaali reer walba ka imaan, ciidan Qaran noqon, la tababarin, maskaxeedooda laga saarin wixii Soomaaliya soo martay ciidan ka dhigan meyno anaga

And the other thing which does not commonly unite the President and his parliamentarians and members of the cabinet is the issue of foreign troops, and both camps dont want to resolve this issue now prefering to wait untill one makes to move. My fear is when that time comes we might not have a government to debate the issue.

 

As the famous Somali phrase says 'Fanole fari kama qodna'.

[A New Born]

Juma, wasen´t the Foreign troops cadr overplayed?

i thoght that move has backfired long ago , n Is only relived when n only when A/Yusuf wants to stir things up to hide the real Agenda , namely him beeing UNWANTED in Mogadishu.

 

Neverthless, since our chicks seem to prefer keeping their militias while trying to woe him to come to Mogadishu.

 

WHY don´t they disarm n conceed for good, at least A/Yusuf could be seen by the masses as a uniting factor of the red nailed Mogadishu chicks.

[wind.talker]

^^

 

How'd the Mogadishu warlords go from "superpower" to "chicks?" Is it because they've agreed (at face value) with this so-called federal government? Yesteryear you had on your colorful pom-poms celebrating the might and muscle of Mogadishu warlords - now, since they're all under the shadow of your nemesis, they've suddenly changed gender? But then again, what did you expect from the likes of Cismaan Caato, the same guy who killed your hero?

 

And the claim that Cabdullahi Yusuf is UNWANTED in Mogadishu - if any of these Mogadishu area warlords were wanted by Reer Mogadishu, wouldn't the city simply have ONE leader? Why does each warlord control a fraction of the city inhabited by the sub-clan of his sub-clan? Fact is, Reer Mogadishu really don't know what they want.

 

JUMATATU -

 

The question of the capital is simple yet people like to overexxagerate it. Mogadishu was, is and will always be Somalia's national capital. You'll have to be an absolute idiat to believe otherwise. Cabdullahi Yusuf and many members of the government and parliament (mainly people not allied to traditional USC branches) are afraid to go to Mogadishu after what happened to their predecessors in the Arta fiasco!

 

Do you blame them?

[Emperor]

Sxb Im yet to understand the purpose of the topic.

 

Juma, Sxb what is the difference between Mogadishu warlods and A.Yusuf to you?

 

Reer Mogadishu really don't know what they want

How true, but i will extend this to all Somalis.

 

PS whats wrong with A.yusuf's Qoute from the BBC? I couldn't spot any, what r u trying to demonstrate there?

 

Lets wait and see what happens, I hope for a good change insha'lah

[Gabbal]

Reer Mogadishu really don't know what they want.

You got a point there Wind, but expanded it a little. I think reer Somali, as a whole, don't really know what they want.

 

Call me what you want, but I believe that after all this time, we still haven't seen enough death, still haven't felt enough pain, still haven't been to the lowest of the low to sacrifice everything and anything for peace. Somalis (the whole TEAM) plain and simply aren't ready for peace! :eek:

 

We don't know really know how Muqdisho will react, despite propaganda being being spit from all corners (who, if you aske me, are really trying to convince themselves) :rolleyes: Puntland didn't want to have anything to do with Abdiqasim, despite that he was elected in much the same way as Abdulahi Yusuf. "Somaliland" doesn't want to have anything to do with Somalis as a whole, because they feel that they didn't receive the shares they deserved in past governments.

 

Speaking blunty, I have to say there is zero trust. Either the Somali people participate in a national "ice-breaker" and "trust-building" exercise or go our ways.

[wind.talker]

Originally posted by HornAfrique:

quote: Reer Mogadishu really don't know what they want.

You got a point there Wind, but expanded it a little. I think reer Somali, as a whole, don't really know what

they

want.

I think it would be immature to say that 'all' Reer Soomaali don't know what they want. Reer Somaliland want independence from Somalia. Reer Puntland and Reer Hiiraan want to self-govern over their dominions. Reer Jubboyinka want the Isbahaysiga Dooxada Jubba to make a regional self-government.

 

Now, Reer Muqdisho are as close to political cohesion as the Middle East. I say they don't know what they want because they've got the capital, a government that includes all the warlords, and a chance to get millions of dollars in foreign assistance as this government attempts to rise from the ashes. Yet, they're busy fighting hard to close down the air and seaport and digging up old Italian graves. Do you think they know what they want?

 

Reer Gedo and RRA-land are politically confused at the moment, but theirs can be solved much quicker than Mogadishu's. Southern Mudug is suffering a bitter clan war right now - but, once again, it can solved quicker compared to Mogadishu. Simply put, there are far too many things going on in Mogadishu than any other national capital in the world.

 

Reer Mogadishu have a chance to rebuild and unite after 15 years of violence. And it amazes me that they still don't know what to do. Some are pro-government, some are anti. And others simply want the status quo to continue - for God-knows-what reason.

[Jumatatu]

Quote from Dayniile.com

 

Dhinaca kale, dadka ku dhaqan magaalada Muqdisho ayaa siyaabo kala duwan uga hadlay wareysigii BBC-du la yeelatay madaxweyne C/llaahi Yuusuf, waxaana qaar ka tirsan reer Muqdisho ay sheegeen in ay ictiqaadsan yihiin in madaxweynaha ay wadna-qabad ku noqotay mar kasta oo lagu soo qaado in uu tegayo Muqdisho & in kale, waxeyna dadkani sheegeen in Muqdisho & madaxweynuhu ay isku dhib qabaan, waxeyna dadkani sheegayaan in laga yaabo in imaatinka dowladda ee Muqdisho ay noqoto imtixaanka ugu weyn ee hal-xiraalaha ku ah madaxweynaha, halka dadka qaarkiina ay tilmaamayaan in madaxweynuhu wax waliba uu runta ka sheegay uuna u hadlay sida lagu yaqiinay qof mas’uul ah, lana xukminayo hadalkiisa wanaagsan ee aan la eegeyn waxa u qarsan, isla markaana go’aanka uu ka qaatay imaantinka Muqdisho ay tahay mid dhaxal-gal ah maadaama uu ku quustay kuwii horay u tegay, beel ahaana u xigay dadka Muqdisho waddadii ay mareen, uuna isagu doonayo in uu noqdo sida uu horay-ba u sheegay ninkii xasilin lahaa Soomaaliya, maadaama uu yahay ninkii billaabay xabadii cuntay Soomaaliya.

“C/llaahi marka uu leeyahay maleeshiyada Xamar ciidan ka dhigan meyno, waxaa ka horeysa in aan anagu diyaar u nahay in aan ciidamo u noqono isaga, dadka Nairobi ku sugan ee la leeyahay Xamar bey imaanayaan waxaan u sheegeynaa in aysan Xamar joogiun cid ay metelaan, isla markaana aysan wax soo dhoweyn ah ka heleyn Muqdisho†ayuu yiri guddoomiyaha ururka dhalinyarada SNA-da Cakaaro.

“Sheekh Xasan Daahir Aweys waa nin culimo ah oo u taagan sharafta diinta, tan dalka & tan dad-kaba, waxa uusan Sheekh Daahir dalkan ka noqonna C/llaahi ka noqon maayoâ€.

I think Sheikh Dahir will be added to the cabinet..