NASSIR Posted March 14, 2005 Somali peacekeepers to deploy with or without warlords' support: Museveni ENTEBBE, Uganda, March 14 (AFP) - Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni said Monday that a proposed regional peace mission to Somalia will deploy with or without the consent of warlords who have expressed opposition to it. "We are going to deploy with or without the support of the warlords," Museveni told defense ministers from the seven-nation east African Inter-Governmental Authority on Development (IGAD) meeting here. "For the warlords to say that they are protecting the people and yet they have guns, they have taken these people hostage and we cannot accept this," he said, referring to recent comments by some warlords who have vowed to oppose participation in the force by troops from neighboring countries. "It is a shame for one of the ancient races in Africa to suffer for so long as we look on," Museveni said. "What are we waiting for?" Defense ministers and military officials from IGAD -- which comprises Djibouti, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Kenya, Sudan, Uganda and nominally Somalia -- are meeting outside the Ugandan capital this week to work out a deployment plan for the mission that is to cost about 500 million dollars for eight months. Museveni asked the officials to work out a deployment program as soon as possible and that he, as the current chairman of IGAD, was waiting for it. The African Union (AU) last month authorized IGAD to deploy an initial peacekeeping force to Somalia to help the lawless country's transitional government relocate there from exile in Kenya. Despite the AU authorization, some warlords have objected to the presence in the force of soldiers from Djibouti, Ethiopia and Kenya which they say have ulterior motives in participating. Museveni said the warlords had no business imposing their will on which countries should participate or not. "Why should the warlords, for example reject Ethiopia and Kenya?" he asked rhetorically. "If the two countries go there what will happen?" Museveni also used the occasion to take some swipes at the United Nations and Europe, saying they have always failed to have solutions to problems in the world's poorest continent. "I do not remember any positive change in Africa brought about by the UN or Europe," he said. Somalia has been in chaos without any functioning central authority since the ouster of strongman Mohamed Siad Barre in 1991 turned the nation into a patchwork of fiefdoms ruled by warlords Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NASSIR Posted March 14, 2005 I like Musaveni. He is Somali. No doubt. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AYOUB Posted March 14, 2005 ^^ Why can't he put his house in order first, can you help me with that? Could it be Somalia has become the biggest begging bowl for all African leaders? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted March 14, 2005 Good news indeed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NASSIR Posted March 14, 2005 Uganda is a nation that has made both technological and economic advancement since Museveni has become president. You shouldn't compare Somalia to Uganda or any functioning legitimate government. Somalia is in dire need of international help and Museveni is working to help your country and people. Logically, i can't understand what makes you troubled by the deployment of African troops to stabalize the feral security in Mogadisho. Museveni is definately right. These warlords have taken hostages of people. The people must be freed. "For the warlords to say that they are protecting the people and yet they have guns, they have taken these people hostage and we cannot accept this," he said, referring to recent comments by some warlords who have vowed to oppose participation in the force by troops from neighboring countries. "It is a shame for one of the ancient races in Africa to suffer for so long as we look on," Museveni said. "What are we waiting for?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted March 14, 2005 "It is a shame for one of the ancient races in Africa to suffer for so long as we look on," Museveni said. "What are we waiting for?" Museveni, I salute you sir... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NASSIR Posted March 14, 2005 Duke, The U.N has now reported violations of the embargo it imposed on Somalia. In a report to the Security Council, the four-member Group says it uncovered "34 individual arms shipments or violations of the arms embargo from February 2004 to the time of writing the present report," about a month ago, showing that violations had continued "at a brisk and alarming rate. "The shipments ranged in size from an individual weapon, such as a large and expensive anti-aircraft gun to ocean freight containers full of arms, ranging from explosives and ammunition to small arms, mine and anti-tank weapons," it says. The UN uncovered that warlords turned ministers now own almost 90% of that arms shipments. In a confidential report to the Council, the Group says, it has provided the names of people responsible for the illicit arms trade, but in the public document it identifies them only as "Businessman and minister in the Transitional Federal Government," "Principal al-Ittihad leader in overall charge of training camps," or "Businesswoman/warlord." UN News Center Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
QabiilDiid Posted March 14, 2005 PRESENENT MUSEVENI , Sir, if actions follow your words to help the weeping Somali children out of this quagmire, it will be immeasurable debt to the Somali people that CAN NOT be fully paid forever. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted March 15, 2005 CAAMIR, many thanks for posting the UN report on the arms violation. Anyhow the government is doing a good job in trying to build a good relation with the external key players in the conflict. The relationship with African leader such as Zanawi, Musaveni and Obasanjo has been advantages so far, the news today of a good reception by Egypt is priceless. Improving security, security and security should be on the mind of the new leaders. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nephissa Posted March 15, 2005 I wonder if you'd salute Msawuee whatever his name is, if he was to deploy troops in Puntland or other parts of Somalia. Soldiers should not be used as peacekeeping police. Soldiers should be used to kill the enemy(unless reer Muqdisho are the enemy.) You need a force to keep the peace. Send in a paramilitaries police force with the right civil training. This whole peacekeeping concept needs an overhaul. How is this any different then what had happened in Congo? Sex abuse commited none other then the so called "Peacekeeping troops." Muqdisho will again be a battlefield, and expect a sequence of Black Hawk Down. I mourn for women and children. Yaa ALLAH! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xoogsade Posted March 15, 2005 Bishaaro, Puntland soldiers are to keep their arms since they fall under a local government that is indepedent from the federal body when it comes to their affairs Plus there is peace over there. Remember, federal jurisdiction applies only where reer Muqdisho are concerned because they have no functioning local authority. Even when some tribal leaders and warlords came together and made the pledge of forming Banadir government, they were rebuffed. Not that I have confidence in those men, but at least their pledge meant a good step forward without waiting for a federal government to clean house for them. The same people you are talking to in here felt threatened by such pledge of peace. They suggested antagonism was the aim because their government might have some hardles thrown in its way with their obsession of ethiopian troops being part of whoever is coming. I was told Abdullahi Yusuf commented few occassions to Puntlanders that they will be part of the troops disarming People in Xamar. Meeshaaseey wax ka cagacageynaayaan. But people/others took note with their own interpretation of that and are waiting, or so is the talk of Town/Xamar. In a way, Somalis live in extremely different worlds not knowing about each other, with Each group blowing their own trumpet. Dadaa xataa wexey isku sasabaan waxaan caqliga ka dhaadhici karin as if wishful thinking will give them what they like to see happen. No one cares or listens to what the other is saying. Laakiin, Wixii jiraba cakaaruhu imanaa sida la dhihi jirey ee aan aragno meeshey wax ku dambeeyaan. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted March 15, 2005 Bisharo, are you an expert on millitary affairs? I saluted President Musaveni for his efforts to help Somalia solve its problesm, Puntand and Mogadishu city are part of Somalia. Xoogsade, as you know Puntland troops will not disarm Mogadishu. The President told the people of Puntland that their support is needed, just like he told those of Baidoa and Jowhar that their support is essential. Its also unhelpful to create such divisision between the people of Puntland and those of the capital. The new army will come from every region including Mogadishu and those who will disarm the millitia's of Mogadishu will be the long suffering people of that city. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted March 15, 2005 Kambaala: Madaxweynaha Wadanka Ugandha Oo Sheegay In Dalka Soomaaliya Loo Soo Dirayo Ciidamo Amaanka Suga - Tuesday, March 15, 2005 at 12:42 Kambaala (AllPuntland)- Madaxweynaha wadanka Uagandha imminkana ah gudoomiyaha Urrur Goboleedka Igad ayaa sheegay in Soomaaliya Loo soo dirayo Ciidamo Nabd Ilaalineed oo ka socda wadamada Igad. Madaxweyne Yuweri Musaveni oo shalay ka hadlay shirka wasiirada Gaashaandhiga Igad ay ku lahaayeen Magaalada Kambaala ayaa ku adkeystay in aysan aheyn arrintu mid loo maja xerayo dadka iyagu caadeystay in ay ka hor yimaadaan nidaam walba oo Aduunku doono in Soomaaliya looga Gudbiyo Nidaam La’aanta, Waxuu kaloo Sheegay Madaxweynaha Wadanka Ugandha in ciidamadaasi ay tiradooda gaari doonto ilaa 10 kun oo askari oo ka imaanaya wadamada ku jirra Urrur Goboleedka Igad iyagoo dalkana joogi doono ku siman sagaal Bilood, waxuuna intaasi raacoyay ka dib in ay ciidamadaasi howshooda la wareegi doonaan ciidamo kale oo ka imaanaya wadamada Qaarada Afrika kuwaasi oo ay howshoodu yeelan doonaan Midowga Afrika. Urrur Goboleed Igad Oo Sheegay In aysan ka hadli karrin qab qablayaasha dagaalka Soomaaliya Ciidamada Loo sooo dirayo Gudaha Wadanka Soomaaliya. Kambaala AllPuntland. Shirkii shalay ka dhacayay magaalada Kambala ee caasimada wadanka Ugandha ka dib ayaa mas’uul sare oo ka tirsan Urrur Gobnoleed Igad waxuu sheegay in aysan ka hadli kareyn kuwa iyagu diidan nidaam la hirgaliyo dalka Soomaaliya Go’aanada ay qaateen Igad. Mas’uulkan oo la hadlay saxaafada isaga oo jooga Deegaanka Etembe oo ku dhaw magaalada Kampala ee caasimada Wadanka Ugandha waxuu sheegay in aanan la warsan doonin kooxaha yare ee mar walba ka hor yimaada nabad ku soo dabaalida Soomaaliya. Isagoo dhanka kalana tilmaamay in dowladu tahay ta kaliya ee la aqbalayo hadaladeeda balse aanan hadda ka dib loo fadhin koox yar oo inta is biirsata war baahinta dadka kala hadasho si ay niyada dadka soomaaliyeed oo aan ognahay in ay u baahanyihiin Dowladnimo iyo nidaam Jahawareer ku beerra. Abshir Cali Gabre AllPuntland.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted March 15, 2005 30ka April Oo la Qorsheeyay in Ciidanka ugu Horeeya Somalia Tegei Doonaan Kulankii wasiirada difaaca IGAD ayaa lagu go'aansaday in ciidan gaaraya tooban kun oo askari oo kala socda dawladaha IGAD Soomaaliya loo diro. Ciidanka ayaa sedex guuto iyo bar kamid ahi la qorsheeyey in ay Soomaaliya tegi doonaa 30ka April, kuwaasoo ka kala socda dawlada 1guuto-Sudan, 1-guuto- Ugandha 1- guuto- Itoobiya iyo guuto barkeed oo Jabuti ah. Shaban Bantariza oo ah afhayeenka wasaarada difaaca Ugandha, ayaa sheegay in Ciidanka ay tegi doonaa dhamaan Soomaaliya, marka laga reebo jamhuuriyada gooni isku taagtay ee Somaliland., laakiinse wuxuu sheegay Mr Shaban Bantariza in go'aanka kama danabysta ah ee fulinta arrinkan ay qaadan doonaan wasiirada arrimaha debeda IGAD ee dhamaadka usbuucan kulan ku yeelan doona magaalada Nairobi ee wadanka Kenya. " Wasiirada arrimaha debeda ayaa arrinku gacanta ugu jiraa, inagu waan gudbiney soo jeedinteenii, iyaga ayey u taalaa hadii ay go'aansadaan iyo hadii kale" ayuu yiri Mr Shaban. Wuxuu kaloo sheegay sarkaalkani in aysan waxba kasoo qaadin diidmada ka imaanaysa hogaamiye kooxeedka qaarkiis iyo culimadda xaga diinta midkoodan. Madaxweynaha Uganda Yoweri Museveni oo haatan ah gudoomiyaha IGAD ayaa isagu ku adkaysanaya in ciidankan oo loogu magacdaray IGADPeace Support Mission for Somalia (IGASOM), Soomaaliya loo diri doono, danna aan laga geli doonin kooxaha kasoo horjeeda. Isha Warka: Xinhua and IOL Webmaster@goobjoog.net Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NASSIR Posted March 15, 2005 thanks Duke for the articles. In shallah we will see a peacefull Mogadisho. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites