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The Effect of Sexual Deprivation on Women

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Qac Qaac   

Underdog nice topic and i agree with u 100%

 

concious manipulation u r right. Islam gave us rights 1400yrs ago long before feminism, i also agree with u.

 

hey pls somalien seperate islam, and what muslim ppl do ok. don't let the feminism ppl trick u into hell fire.

 

flying still, u said why r men threatened with a woman bettering herself. i am saying u r wrong. mean always wanted to see women to educate themselves, coz that what islam teaches us. but when u think the feminin way is enhancing the women pls think again.

 

nin yaaban, ninyoho at the end i don't think our women, somali women are that dump enough to believe femisnism movement. are they that naive. i don't think so. man, they might have couple of ideas from them, which is scary some times. but let's just say they ok. even though most of them wanna have 2 kids now.

 

sisters islam gave u right long time ago, believe it and stick with it ok. no feminism crap. bye all

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islam showed us the path, and gave women their rights, im not contesting that. i think what youre ignoring is that anti-female sentiment (for a lack of a better term) has existed prior islam, and is/was so strong than it still exists today. what happened in afghanistan during the taliban rule? those men tried to hide behing the facade of islam to justify their barbaric behaviour towards women, denying them their basic rights. there is another post here about honor killings in which even muslims participate in. somali women are enduring FGM, etc, etc. fgm, and honor killings are even condoned by women, why you ask? because the line of thinking that a woman is basically worthless without an intact hymen is passed on to the next generation whom all seem to think its islamic because its been a part of them before, during and after islam came into theire culture. believe me, feminism isnt a movement where were trying to make men obsolete. im not saying there arent radicals (i think theyre usually lesbians) who do want that, but i also think that feminism ( men and women looking out for other womens rights) would also fit in islam. imams dont do anything, they are also a products of their culture and history (those that believe in honor killings). how else will things change for women if people dont take a stand and stop it? thats what i think feminism is. whatever though. thanks for your concern about my soul.

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Xafsa   

Underdog- I don't really understand love myself...So when I figure it out I'll let you know.

Ameenah_ I agree...if we just go back to the qur'an and the sunnah we will find all the answers to all our problems. And it is a known fact that men and women were created for each other. So you can't have one with out the other.

 

 

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Qac Qaac   

somalien pls

 

Did u just attacked taliban. and called them barberic. hey all i am asking you is, how do u know they are barberic. DID U SEE IT FROM CNN? or read it from enternet. sister pls don't u know there is something called parapoganda. r u to naive to u.s. parapoganda.

 

did u ever read anything about taliban. that taliban ppl wrote for themselves. the only advice i could give u is. pls leave the world that america wants u to see, and step out to the real big world. and pls sis before u diss ur brothers in islam. and i made add taliban were just afghan students, pls learn something from them. have ur own opinion. not american generated opinion ok.

 

feminism, is what nwo. made to destroy families. pls somalien don't beleive the crap they are telling u, they are not helping women, they are destroying women. if u don't agree with me, is cool. but just know u r the wrong one. and b4 u open your mouth again on your muslim brothers first learn about them.

 

did u know taliban, reduced the rape of the afghan women, when they were in power. do u know the rape crime now how much it is. did u know there was no porn stuff in afghan b4 when taliban was there. and guess what now. there is porn megazines everywhere. YEAH AFGHAN GOT LIBRATED. do u believe that somalien. sis plss.

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*sigh* okay, im not trying to start a debate here.

 

if you think im wrong, so be it. but let me say a couple of things. feminism in a capital/kaffir country such as this takes on a different and yes, contradictory stance to islam. but like someone stated before many aspects of it fit into islam and for the most part we practice it.(i think you can be a muslim and a feminist.) i dont think the talibans did. im sure they started out with a great future in mind (why else would they call themselves talibans), but in the end they were tyrants at best. not just to women, but to all their people. i dont watch cnn, or abc. in fact,the only main stream news i watch anymore is the bbc, the rest i get from independant papers and the internet, and even than i have to sift through the authors left wing antics. im just saying, im not a yankees cap wearing, flag waving, *remember 911* american, or pro-american for that matter. i dont think iraq or afghanistan are "liberated", but im not sad to see their last "leaders" leave either, im more troubled by who's in charge now... anyways im straying off the topic. rapes were less frequent during the taliban rule? i can see that. i can also see women being raped and being charged for adultery cause "it was their fault in the first place for walking down the street alone".i can also see some taliban members themselves commiting such acts... but whatever.i could probably find some favorable facts for any dictator or tyrant saying how much things were better off during there rule too but,thats just my opinion though... which is wrong anyways.

 

the afghani talibans aside,(cause i know you disagre with me),do you really believe that women are treated well across the globe?

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Qac Qaac   

pls sis somalien don't just blah bluh from your emotions ok. judging you from what u said in above, u seem to be knowing nothing about the taliban and pls dont deviate from you pt. u called your muslim brothers tyrent with no evidance the evidance you have is from internet or some other news paper for the western ppl, it is still propaganda.

 

make sure u do ur research, ok. if u r a good judge, u listen to both sides right. u seem to be listen to only one side. and u say u r a flag bearer, i see u from montreal, and i am from ott. maybe we could get together. coz i hate a muslim person thinking that the taliban were tyrents. i wanna change your mind, coz i know u r smart person and would listen because u r educated, u just need to show the light that's all. prouden your horizon. ok.

 

if i said something that made u mad, sister pls forgive me, maybe i got little bit carried away. is just pls don't call them a tyrent. saddam is a tyrent but not the talibans ok.

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Somealien, you make a number of fair and rational observations, although I don't agree with all of them. Thanks for sharing your insight.

 

I would like to add a thought. It is sad that in both traditional (patriarchal/religion based) and modern (atheist/western) societies woman are obviously exploited and subjected to fulfill the desires of men. This is a fact. Any movement that seeks to rectify this situation is worth commending.

 

 

I find it disappointing that some of the so called "victories" of feminists in the West have led to the whole sale sexual exploitation of woman in mass-media. This situation undermines much of the real victories that may have been produced by that movement in the area's of the status of woman under the law and in educational institutions.

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QAC QAC AND SOMALIEN SAid what wanted(regardless of the diffirent poinview about taliban)

any ideology,be it feminism,democarcy.socialism.or religone like islam christain jewism had been subjeced to extrim interpertation of human.all religomne are ideal at their original form but human interfarace changed it.islam is an extention for the christainity,in other word both religone share same values,though islam supersede and add more texture. both give same equal right to women and men.in dark ages europe was ruled by very extrim churchs who rippedoff women right,as result capaing began to detter or rather curb this misinterpretation of religone,it was good move but as the time goes by they aslso went very extrim of fenisim.the overprotection of women right,did not solve the issue of women under men.it rather increased.look at the models(even the somali)they realy slaves for the company, they do not have lightest right,women becomesalave

to be contioue............

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Blessed   

^^^lol. Bit taken with underdog aren't we? well, good 4U ;)

 

 

UD - didn't know you had such a sweet, giving side icon_razz.gif Tanag you 4 the roses (yeah I know its late).

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GD   

is it me or the world is changed?

this gal doesnt lookelike, she is older then 24 and she is talking bout sex. hey sis where is the culture and diin. u can talk bout sex only wit ur mom and sis nt us and not in here. coz there r many ppl reading ur sick idea. anyway iam at work and i get to go. i will come back to u. i would never finish wit u. lol

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