So for how long are we in PL going to wait for those people of south??

[inspector22]

Originally posted by Abwaan:

All I can say is that I feel sorry for you inspector22 that your judgement is based on a sort of hear say around the dinner table and our clan Fulan is the best and all the rest cannot lead...and our tuulo is very well developed.

 

I don't think that you are doing yourself a favour since you said peaceful place like Puntland...boy have you been watching the news recently? Do you know where Somali pirates function and rule and NO adminstration can challenge them? Is that your peace? Do you call that peaceful. Don't you think that they are the equivalent of the drug cartel? the way they function and the damage they cause if we put aside all the outcry and their claim of protecting the sea. How many times have the jails in The Eastern regions as I call them were broken and prinsoners freed? How many times were foreigners and journalists kidnapped.

 

I would support your view if I knew there is a real longterm peace in the Eastern regions although there has been some sort of stability compared to the South.

Pirates are not a problem, infact as long as there is no efficient coastguard that protects the states marine resources, then i see them playing an important role by discouraging illegal looting done by foreign fishing companies. Also they don't destroy their homeland or harm their people quite the opposite they bring hard currency with them home, which is good for the mean time.

of course when thiings get real serious (as puntland grows economically) then they'll have to stop, but untill then let them do their thing.

[Fabregas]

Puntland, Somaliland and all the other elvis pressley lands are merely binary distinctions, based upon ancient tribal myths and hatreds, which only exist in the minds of a few regionalists/tribal politicians and their brainswashed followers. The pseudo natioanlitic leaders( tribalists) want to control the resources of a region and get rich from that process, whilst enjoining the titles of president and minster in a small area. Hence why we see declaring regions or states has become a lucarative business in Somalia over the last 10 years. Soon, the day will come when every sub clan declares its own state.

 

 

The first step in curing yourself of such diseases is to change your mode of thinking: think Muslim, Somali, then region. Do not think: region/fruitcake lander, enemy, Muslim, then SOmali person. As the world becomes more global and comsmpolitan, what is needed is more trade, greater mobislisation of SOmali across different Somali regions and gathering research into what unites the SOmali population, as opposes what seperates them. Remember SOutherner and Puntlander, Somalilander, does not actually exist pshyically; it is merely a creation of the imagination. Not one person can up with a definition of a Somalilander, whilst Puntlander is simply a short hand reference for a clan name. In conclusion, the new generation of Somalis should not adopt the stone age mentality of our ancestors and father, they only saw the world as consisting of a set of enclosed rival villages, who fought brutal wars over economic and political hegemony. This has no place in the modern world.

 

 

I have a dream that one day all sOMALI people will hold hands and Jacalybro will be the president with Rudy as prime minister. Amen to that.

[inspector22]

The first step in curing yourself of such diseases is to change your mode of thinking: think Muslim, Somali, then region. Do not think: region/fruitcake lander, enemy, Muslim, then SOmali person. As the world becomes more global and comsmpolitan, what is needed is more trade, greater mobislisation of SOmali across different Somali regions and gathering research into what unites the SOmali population, as opposes what seperates them. Remember SOutherner and Puntlander, Somalilander, does not actually exist pshyically; it is merely a creation of the imagination.

All borders are social constructs, they don't exist physically (unless you're completly surrounded by water like australia or madagascar).

As for more unity across different somali regions, i'll have to disagree on that point.

There exist to much suspicion and distrust among different somalii groups. The most homogenous regions are those that show order and potential of growth while the heterogenous regions are the most catastrophic and constantly on a downward spiral of violence and mayhem. Even if all somalis becomming united was an ideal state it still has been proven not to work, what's the purpose of being on the right track but not being able to move and always getting stuck? Better to find other solutions.

We should all be seperated from each others burden.

If puntland etc existed 40 years ago we would have witnessed great developments by now, since all the bickering, suspicion and squabbling over nonsensical issues would have been replaced by productivity and development. But anyway better late than never.

[N.O.R.F]

The first step in curing yourself of such diseases is to change your mode of thinking: think Muslim, Somali, then region. Do not think: region/fruitcake lander, enemy, Muslim, then SOmali person. As the world becomes more global and comsmpolitan, what is needed is more trade, greater mobislisation of SOmali across different Somali regions and gathering research into what unites the SOmali population, as opposes what seperates them. Remember SOutherner and Puntlander, Somalilander, does not actually exist pshyically; it is merely a creation of the imagination. Not one person can up with a definition of a Somalilander, whilst Puntlander is simply a short hand reference for a clan name. In conclusion, the new generation of Somalis should not adopt the stone age mentality of our ancestors and father, they only saw the world as consisting of a set of enclosed rival villages, who fought brutal wars over economic and political hegemony. This has no place in the modern world.

Well said. LoL@regionalist

 

Jacalybro will be the president with Rudy as prime minister. Amen to that.

Not sure about that though