The Colony That Rejected Freedom – Somaliland

[Jacaylbaro]

Somaliland, a British Colony for nearly 80 years, became independent on 26th June 1960. However, it gave up its freedom after four days as reported in the Daily Herald Newspaper of London on 29th June 1960: “The Colony That Rejected Freedom – Somaliland, a British Colony for nearly 80 years, became independent last Sunday. And on Friday, after four days of freedom, this British outpost will surrender its sovereignty and merge with Somalia…Now it has become an area of historical significance. And the reason is that its merger with Somalia is unique, as Somalia itself is not yet free.”

 

Here, I republish some of agreements between independent and recognized Government of Somaliland and Government of England. Somaliland’s first cabinet signed the agreements for Somaliland:

 

http://untreaty.un.o rg/unts/1_60000/11/5 /00020248.pdf

 

No. 5348

 

UNITED KINGDOM OF GREAT BRITAIN

 

AND NORTHERN IRELAND

 

and

 

SOMALILAND

 

Agreement regarding interim arrangements in respect of

 

the Somaliland Scouts. Signed at Hargeisa, on 26 June

 

1960

 

Official text : English.

 

Registered by the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland on

 

13 September 1960.

 

ROYAUME-UNI DE GRANDE-BRETAGNE

 

ET D’IRLANDE DU NORD

 

et

 

SOMALIE

 

Accord relatif à des arrangements provisoires concernant

 

les Somaliland Scouts. Signé à Hargeisa, le 26 juin 1960

 

Texte officiel anglais.

 

Enregistr par le Royaume-Uni de Grande-Bretagne et d’Irlande du Nord le

 

13 septembre 1960.

 

348 United Nations — Treaty Series 1960

 

No. 5348. AGREEMENT * BETWEEN THE GOVERNMENT OF

 

THE UNITED KINGDOM OF GREAT BRITAIN AND

 

NORTHERN IRELAND AND THE GOVERNMENT OF

 

SOMALILAND REGARDING INTERIM ARRANGEMENTS

 

IN RESPECT OF THE SOMALILAND SCOUTS. SIGNED

 

AT HARGEISA, ON 26 JUNE 1960

 

The Government of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the Government of Somaliland; Considering that the Government of Somaliland have informed the Government of the United Kingdom that the Somaliland Scouts as maintained and governed under existing legislation shall continue in being for an interim period of six months following the attainment of independence by Somaliland and that they are willing to provide funds within present limits for this purpose, and that the Government of Somaliland have requested the Government of the United Kingdom to provide certain United Kingdom military personnel to be seconded for service with the Somaliland Scouts during this interim period; Considering that the Government of the United Kingdom have indicated their willingness to make such personnel available, subject to the conditions hereinafter specified, as part of their general assistance to Somaliland in the interim period of six months following independence; Have agreed as follows:

 

Article I

 

In this Agreement :

 

(a) “United Kingdom military personnel” means commissioned officers, warrant officers and non-commissioned officers of Her Britannic Majesty’s Armed Forces, seconded for service with the Somaliland Scouts under this Agreement;

 

(b) “conditions of service” means the laws, rules, regulations, orders and other instruments that regulate the terms of service of United Kingdom military personnel including, without prejudice to the generality of the foregoing, provision relating to their tenure of office, transfer, promotion, disciplinary control, salary (including salary scales), pension, compensation allowances, quarters, leave and passages.

 

1 Came into force on 26 June 1960 by signature, in accordance with article X.

 

350 United Nations — Treaty Series 1960

 

Article II

 

(1) The Government of the United Kingdom shall at the request of the Government of Somaliland and subject to the agreement of the personnel concerned, second commissioned officers, warrant officers and non-commissioned officers of Her Britannic Majesty’s Armed Forces for service with the Somaliland Scouts, within the present establishment, during an interim period not exceeding six months from the coming into force of this Agreement.

 

(2) During the period of six months from the coming into force of this Agreement the Commander of the Somaliland Scouts shall be the senior British officer seconded for service with the Somaliland Scouts under this Agreement.

 

Article III

 

(1) The conditions of service of United Kingdom military personnel shall be similar to and not less favourable than those which were applicable immediately before the coming into force of this Agreement.

 

(2) The emoluments of such personnel shall be paid by the Government of the United Kingdom, on behalf of the Government of Somaliland.

 

(3) The Government of the United Kingdom shall account to the Government of Somaliland for all payments made under this Agreement.

 

Article IV

 

(1) United Kingdom military personnel shall remain subject to United Kingdom Service law at all times and shall be dealt with under this law wherever applicable.

 

(2) Notwithstanding that United Kingdom military personnel shall be an integral part of the Somaliland Scouts they shall, so that they may be dealt with under United Kingdom Service law, be formed into a unit called “United Kingdom Element, Somaliland Scouts” and the Commander of the Somaliland Scouts or, in his absence, the senior British seconded officer acting in his place shall be the commander of this unit.

 

(3) If necessary a court martial under United Kingdom Service law may be held locally and British officers may be brought into the country as members of such a court. Essential witnesses may also if necessary be brought into the country for the purpose of giving evidence at such a couit.

 

(4) United Kingdom military personnel shall be subject to the law of Somaliland other than Service law.

 

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Article V

 

No United Kingdom military personnel will be required to take part in military operations against a third country.

 

Article VI

 

(1) The Commander of the Somaliland Scouts, and through him the other United Kingdom military personnel, shall receive their orders from the appropriate Minister of the Government of Somaliland and they will obey such orders, provided that such orders would, if given by anyone subject to United Kingdom Service law, constitute lawful commands under that law and do not conflict with the allegiance of such personnel to Her Britannic Majesty.

 

(2) United Kingdom military personnel shall have power of command over all officers and other ranks in the Somaliland Scouts junior to them in rank or seniority or placed under their command. Similarly, other personnel in the Somaliland Scouts will have power of command over all personnel including United Kingdom military personnel junior to them in rank or seniority or placed under their command.

 

(3) United Kingdom military personnel shall have the powers of discipline over United Kingdom military personnel junior to them in rank or seniority or placed under their command provided for under United Kingdom Service law. Power of discipline over all other members of the Somaliland Scouts shall be exercised by the Commander of the Somaliland Scouts.

 

Article VII

 

The Government of the United Kingdom reserve the right to withdraw United Kingdom military personnel from service with the Somaliland Scouts should conditions arise where they consider such action necessary.

 

Article VIII

 

United Kingdom military personnel shall be indemnified by the Government of Somaliland for all sums paid or payable in respect of costs, damages and any personal costs awarded against them in civil proceedings arising out of accidents or incidents occurring during the performance of their military duty.

 

Article IX

 

United Kingdom military personnel shall have the right to approach the appropriate representative of the Government of the United Kingdom in the area on matters pertaining to their own Service or personal interests. Normally such an approach

 

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shall be made to the Commander, Land Forces, Arabian Peninsula, through the Commander of the Somaliland Scouts who will keep the Government of Somaliland in formed on those matters concerning their interests.

 

Article X

 

This Agreement shall come into force on the date of its signature.

 

IN WITNESS WHEREOF the undersigned, being duly authorised thereto, have signed the present Agreement.

 

DONE in duplicate at Hargeisa, this 26th day of June, 1960, in the English language.

 

For the Government For the Government of the United Kingdom of Great of Somaliland: Britain and Northern Ireland:

 

M. I. EGAL

 

T. E. BROMLEY A. DUALEH

 

A. G. JAMA

 

Ibr NOOR

 

No. 5348

 

No. 5349

 

UNITED KINGDOM OF GREAT BRITAIN

 

AND NORTHERN IRELAND

 

and

 

SOMALILAND

 

Exchange of letters constituting an agreement providing that, should the Government of Somaliland be a party to any agreement transferring jurisdiction over the Territory of Somaliland to any other Government, such agreement should provide that the obligations of the Government of Somaliland in respect of certain specified instruments are transferred to that other Govern ment. Hargeisa, 26 June 1960

 

Official text : English.

 

Registered by the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland on

 

13 September 1960.

 

ROYAUME-UNI DE GRANDE-BRETAGNE

 

ET D’IRLANDE DU NORD

 

et

 

SOMALIE

 

change de lettres constituant un accord disposant qu’au

 

cas o le Gouvernement de la Somalie serait partie

 

un accord portant transfert de juridiction sur le

 

territoire de la Somalie tout autre Gouvernement,

 

ledit accord devra stipuler le transfert cet autre

 

Gouvernement des obligations du Gouvernement de la

 

Somalie touchant certains instruments d termin s.

 

Hargeisa, 26 juin 1960

 

Texte officiel anglais.

 

Enregistr par le Royaume-Uni de Grande-Bretagne et d’Irlande du Nord le

 

13 septembre 1960.

 

374 – 24

 

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No. 5349. EXCHANGE OF LETTERS CONSTITUTING AN

 

AGREEMENT1 BETWEEN THE GOVERNMENT OF THE

 

UNITED KINGDOM OF GREAT BRITAIN AND NORTH

 

ERN IRELAND AND THE GOVERNMENT OF SOMALILAND

 

PROVIDING THAT, SHOULD THE GOVERNMENT

 

OF SOMALILAND BE A PARTY TO ANY AGREEMENT

 

TRANSFERRING JURISDICTION OVER THE TERRI

 

TORY OF SOMALILAND TO ANY OTHER GOVERNMENT,

 

SUCH AGREEMENT SHOULD PROVIDE THAT THE

 

OBLIGATIONS OF THE GOVERNMENT OF SOMALILAND

 

IN RESPECT OF CERTAIN SPECIFIED INSTRUMENTS

 

ARE TRANSFERRED TO THAT OTHER GOVERNMENT.

 

HARGEISA, 26 JUNE 1960

 

Mr. T. E. Bromley to the Members of the Council of Ministers of Somaliland

 

BRITISH CONSULATE-GENERAL

 

Hargeisa, June 26, 1960

 

Your Excellencies,

 

I have the honour to ask you to confirm on behalf of the Government of Somaliland that, should they in any way be a party to any agreement for, or any instrument having the effect of, transferring, or confirming the transfer of, jurisdiction over the territory of the Government of Somaliland, to any other Government, such agreement or instrument shall provide that the obligations of the Government of Somaliland in respect of the following instruments are transferred to, and accepted by, that other Government, namely :

 

(a) The Interim Agreement between the Government of the United Kingdom of

 

Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the Government of Somaliland for a United Kingdom Aid Mission ; *

 

(b) The Public Officers Agreement between the Government of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the Government of Somaliland ; *

 

1 Came into force on 26 June 1960 by the exchange of the said letters.

 

1 See p. 331 of this volume.

 

1 See p. 339 of this volume.

 

360 United Nations — Treaty Sénés 1960

 

© The Agreement between the Government of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the Government of Somaliland regarding interim arrangements in respect of the Somaliland Scouts ; 1

 

(d) The lease entered into on the 12th of April, 1960, between the Government of the Somaliland Protectorate and the Minister of Works of the United Kingdom. I have the honour to propose that this letter and Your Excellencies’ reply giving the confirmation aforesaid should constitute an Agreement between the two Governments.

 

Please accept, &c.

 

T. E. BROMLEY

 

II

 

The Council of Ministers of Somaliland to Mr. T. E. Bromley

 

Your Excellency,

 

THE COUNCIL OF MINISTERS OF SOMALILAND

 

Hargeisa, June 26, 1960

 

We have the honour to acknowledge the receipt of your letter of to-day’s date, which reads as follows:

 

[see letter /]

 

On behalf of the Government of Somaliland, we have pleasure in giving the confirmation for which your letter asks and agree that Your Excellency’s letter and this reply shall constitute an agreement between the two Governments.

 

Please accept, &c.

 

M. I. EGAL

 

A. DUALEH

 

A. G. JAMA

 

Ibr NOOR

 

1 See p. 347 of this volume.

 

No. 5349

 

No. 5350

 

UNITED KINGDOM OF GREAT BRITAIN

 

AND NORTHERN IRELAND

 

and

 

SOMALILAND

 

Exchange of letters constituting an agreement concerning

 

the continued availability of currency of the East

 

African Currency Board in Somaliland for a transitional

 

period. Hargeisa, 26 June 1960

 

Official text : English.

 

Registered by the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland on

 

13 September 1960.

 

ROYAUME-UNI DE GRANDE-BRETAGNE

 

ET D’IRLANDE DU NORD

 

et

 

SOMAIJE

 

Echange de lettres constituant un accord relatif au maintien,

 

pendant une p riode transitoire, des livraisons

 

la

 

Somalie d’instruments mon taires de l’East African

 

Currency Board. Hargeisa, 26 juin 1960

 

Texte officiel anglais.

 

Enregistr par le Royaume-Uni de Grande-Bretagne et d’Irlande du Nord le

 

13 septembre 1960.

 

364

 

United Nations — Treaty Series

 

1960

 

No. 5350. EXCHANGE OF LETTERS CONSTITUTING AN

 

AGREEMENT 1 BETWEEN THE GOVERNMENT OF THE

 

UNITED KINGDOM OF GREAT BRITAIN AND NORTH

 

ERN IRELAND AND THE GOVERNMENT OF SOMALI-

 

LAND CONCERNING THE CONTINUED AVAILABILITY

 

OF CURRENCY OF THE EAST AFRICAN CURRENCY

 

BOARD IN SOMALILAND FOR A TRANSITIONAL

 

PERIOD. HARGEISA, 26 JUNE 1960

 

I

 

The Council of Ministers of Somaliland to Mr. T. E. Bromley

 

THE COUNCIL OF MINISTERS OF SOMALILAND

 

Hargeisa, June 26, 1960

 

Your Excellency,

 

We have the honour to request that, following the attainment of independence by Somaliland, the currency of the East African Currency Board (hereinafter described as “the Board”) should continue to be made available for circulation in Somaliland for a transitional period until provision can be made for its replacement. We propose that if Her Majesty’s Government in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland agree to this request, arrangements should be made on the following basis :

 

{a) The duration of the transitional period shall be a matter for consideration by the Government of Somaliland and Her Majesty’s Government, shall be only so long as is practicable and necessary.and shall not in any event exceed 12 months beginning from to-day’s date.

 

(b) During the transitional period :

 

(i) the Board shall use their best endeavours to ensure that an adequate supply of currency notes and coins of the Board continues to be available to meet the demand in Somaliland;

 

(ii) The Government of Somaliland shall not do any act or enact any legislation which might prejudice the interests of the Board and shall afford the Board such assistance as may be necessary. 1 Came into force on 26 June 1960 by the exchange of the said letters.

 

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1960

 

If the above proposals are acceptable to Her Majesty’s Government, we have the honour to suggest that the present letter and your reply to that effect should constitute an agreement between the two Governments in this matter.

 

Please accept, &c.

 

M. I. EGAL

 

A. DUALEH

 

A. G. JAMA

 

Ibr NOOR

 

II

 

Mr. T. E. Bromley to the Members of the Coitncil of Ministers of Somalilana

 

BRITISH CONSULATE-GENERAL

 

Hargeisa, June 26, 1960

 

Your Excellencies,

 

I have the honour to acknowledge the receipt of your letter of to-day’s date,

 

which reads as follows :

 

[see letter 7]

 

I have pleasure to confirm that the above proposals are acceptable to Her Majesty’s Government who agree that your letter and this reply shall constitute an agreement between the two Governments in this matter.

 

Please accept, &c.

 

T. E. BROMLEY

 

No. 5350

 

No. 5350

 

UNITED KINGDOM OF GREAT BRITAIN

 

AND NORTHERN IRELAND

 

and

 

SOMALILAND

 

Exchange of letters constituting an agreement concerning the continued availability of currency of the East African Currency Board in Somaliland for a transitional

 

period. Hargeisa, 26 June 1960

 

Official text : English.

 

Registered by the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland on

 

13 September 1960.

 

ROYAUME-UNI DE GRANDE-BRETAGNE

 

ET D’IRLANDE DU NORD

 

et

 

SOMAIJE

 

Echange de lettres constituant un accord relatif au maintien,

 

pendant une p riode transitoire, des livraisons

 

la

 

Somalie d’instruments mon taires de l’East African

 

Currency Board. Hargeisa, 26 juin 1960

 

Texte officiel anglais.

 

Enregistr par le Royaume-Uni de Grande-Bretagne et d’Irlande du Nord le

 

13 septembre 1960.

 

364

 

United Nations — Treaty Series

 

1960

 

No. 5350. EXCHANGE OF LETTERS CONSTITUTING AN

 

AGREEMENT 1 BETWEEN THE GOVERNMENT OF THE

 

UNITED KINGDOM OF GREAT BRITAIN AND NORTH

 

ERN IRELAND AND THE GOVERNMENT OF SOMALI-

 

LAND CONCERNING THE CONTINUED AVAILABILITY

 

OF CURRENCY OF THE EAST AFRICAN CURRENCY

 

BOARD IN SOMALILAND FOR A TRANSITIONAL

 

PERIOD. HARGEISA, 26 JUNE 1960

 

I

 

The Council of Ministers of Somaliland to Mr. T. E. Bromley

 

THE COUNCIL OF MINISTERS OF SOMALILAND

 

Hargeisa, June 26, 1960

 

Your Excellency,

 

We have the honour to request that, following the attainment of independence by Somaliland, the currency of the East African Currency Board (hereinafter described as “the Board”) should continue to be made available for circulation in Somaliland for a transitional period until provision can be made for its replacement. We propose that if Her Majesty’s Government in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland agree to this request, arrangements should be made on the following basis :

 

{a) The duration of the transitional period shall be a matter for consideration by

 

the Government of Somaliland and Her Majesty’s Government, shall be only so long as is practicable and necessary.and shall not in any event exceed 12 months beginning from to-day’s date.

 

(b) During the transitional period :

 

(i) the Board shall use their best endeavours to ensure that an adequate supply of currency notes and coins of the Board continues to be available to meet the demand in Somaliland;

 

(ii) The Government of Somaliland shall not do any act or enact any legislation

 

which might prejudice the interests of the Board and shall afford the Board such assistance as may be necessary. 1 Came into force on 26 June 1960 by the exchange of the said letters.

 

366

 

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1960

 

If the above proposals are acceptable to Her Majesty’s Government, we have

 

the honour to suggest that the present letter and your reply to that effect should

 

constitute an agreement between the two Governments in this matter.

 

Please accept, &c.

 

M. I. EGAL

 

A. DUALEH

 

A. G. JAMA

 

Ibr NOOR

 

II

 

Mr. T. E. Bromley to the Members of the Coitncil of Ministers of Somalilana

 

BRITISH CONSULATE-GENERAL

 

Hargeisa, June 26, 1960

 

Your Excellencies,

 

I have the honour to acknowledge the receipt of your letter of to-day’s date, which reads as follows :

 

[see letter 7]

 

I have pleasure to confirm that the above proposals are acceptable to Her Majesty’s Government who agree that your letter and this reply shall constitute an agreement between the two Governments in this matter.

 

Please accept, &c.

 

T. E. BROMLEY

 

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US Congressman Mr. Donald M Payne should understand that Somaliland was not part of Somalia, and it won’t be in the future. Mr. Payne don’t know much about Somali history, however he should read the history before saying against Somaliland.

 

The final decision of Somaliland future rests at the hands of its own people: neither Mr. Payne nor warlords and pirates in Somalia like “Puntland” Leader Abdirahman Farole can force Somalilanders to reunite with failed Somalia.

[Jacaylbaro]

[Meiji]

The Somalis of the North were true patriots and Somalis that struggled for the common good of the Somali nation. Today, they are under the heavy negative influence of undesirable individuals like JB.

 

Somalis have become ugly since 1991.

 

Insha allah we will rehabilitate the Somali man to its pre-1960 condition: brave, patriotic, Somali-minded, freedom-loving and having unconditional love for his Somali nation.

[Meiji]

No. 5349 EXCHANGE OF LETTERS CONSTITUTING AN

AGREEMENT1 BETWEEN THE GOVERNMENT OF THE

UNITED KINGDOM OF GREAT BRITAIN AND NORTH

ERN IRELAND AND THE GOVERNMENT OF SOMALILAND

PROVIDING THAT, SHOULD THE GOVERNMENT

OF SOMALILAND BE A PARTY TO ANY AGREEMENT

TRANSFERRING JURISDICTION OVER THE TERRI

TORY OF SOMALILAND TO ANY OTHER GOVERNMENT,

SUCH AGREEMENT SHOULD PROVIDE THAT THE

OBLIGATIONS OF THE GOVERNMENT OF SOMALILAND

IN RESPECT OF CERTAIN SPECIFIED INSTRUMENTS

ARE TRANSFERRED TO THAT OTHER GOVERNMENT.

HARGEISA, 26 JUNE 1960

 

Mr. T. E. Bromley to the Members of the Council of Ministers of Somaliland

 

BRITISH CONSULATE-GENERAL

 

Hargeisa, June 26, 1960

 

Your Excellencies,

 

I have the honour to ask you to confirm on behalf of the Government of Somaliland

that, should they in any way be a party to any agreement for, or any instrument

having the effect of, transferring, or confirming the transfer of, jurisdiction over the

territory of the Government of Somaliland, to any other Government, such agreement

or instrument shall provide that the obligations of the Government of Somaliland

in respect of the following instruments are transferred to, and accepted by, that , namely :

 

(a) The Interim Agreement between the Government of the United Kingdom of

Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the Government of Somaliland for a

United Kingdom Aid Mission ; *

 

(b) The Public Officers Agreement between the Government of the United Kingdom

of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the Government of Somaliland ; *

1 Came into force on 26 June 1960 by the exchange of the said letters.

1 See p. 331 of this volume.

1 See p. 339 of this volume.

360 United Nations — Treaty Sénés 1960

 

© The Agreement between the Government of the United Kingdom of Great

Britain and Northern Ireland and the Government of Somaliland regarding

interim arrangements in respect of the Somaliland Scouts ; 1

 

(d) The lease entered into on the 12th of April, 1960, between the Government of

the Somaliland Protectorate and the Minister of Works of the United Kingdom.

I have the honour to propose that this letter and Your Excellencies' reply giving

the confirmation aforesaid should constitute an Agreement between the two Govern

ments.

 

Please accept, &c.

 

T. E. BROMLEY

II

 

 

The Council of Ministers of Somaliland to Mr. T. E. Bromley

 

Your Excellency,

 

THE COUNCIL OF MINISTERS OF SOMALILAND

 

Hargeisa, June 26, 1960

We have the honour to acknowledge the receipt of your letter of to-day's date ,

which reads as follows :

 

[see letter /]

 

On behalf of the Government of Somaliland, we have pleasure in giving the

confirmation for which your letter asks and agree that Your Excellency's letter and

this reply shall constitute an agreement between the two Governments.

 

Please accept, &c.

 

M. I. EGAL

A. DUALEH

A. G. JAMA

Ibr NOOR

 

http://untreaty.un.o rg/unts/1_60000/11/5 /00020249.pdf

 

You conveniently left out that information.

[me]

Dear SOLers,

 

JB here has been caught red-handed. He only posted some pages of a document in a deliberate attempt to distort the truth.

 

These two PDF’s are a pair and they have complementary information.

 

Read for yourself.

 

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I have the honour to ask you to confirm on behalf of the Government of Somaliland that, should they in any way be a party to any agreement for, or any instrument having the effect of,

transferring, or confirming the transfer of, jurisdiction over the territory of the Government of Somaliland, to any other Government

, such agreement or instrument shall provide that the obligations of the Government of Somaliland in respect of the following instruments are transferred to, and accepted by, that , namely :

 

(a) The Interim Agreement between the Government of the United Kingdom of

Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the Government of Somaliland for a

United Kingdom Aid Mission ; *

 

(b) The Public Officers Agreement between the Government of the United Kingdom

of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the Government of Somaliland ; *

1 Came into force on 26 June 1960 by the exchange of the said letters.

1 See p. 331 of this volume.

1 See p. 339 of this volume.

360 United Nations — Treaty Sénés 1960

From this excerpt we can see that the British were worried about what would happen to their military personnel when the transfer of Jurisdiction with Somalia took place....hence ….. should they in any way be a party to any agreement for, or any instrument having the effect of, transferring, or confirming the transfer of, jurisdiction over the territory of the Government of Somaliland, to any other Government

 

The British Government wanted to make sure that its troops did not end up in legal limbo. So they signed a document that guaranteed that once the transfer of territory to Somalia took place, that the British forces would have legal protection.

 

 

JB,

 

You have lied to this great forum and attempted to mislead us, with your ill-conceived plot to distort Somali history. You should be ashamed of yourself.

 

Meiji,

 

Thank you for providing this info.

[Jacaylbaro]

What did i miss here now ?? ......

 

 

The Interim Agreement between the Government of the United Kingdom of

Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the Government of Somaliland

[me]

JB,

 

Indha adeeg kaama saarayso tan ee akhri before you post.

 

Nr.1 It says Interim agreement.

 

Nr. 2 ....confirming the transfer of, jurisdiction over the territory of the Government of Somaliland, to any other Government... i.e. The Somali Republic.

 

These two points highlight that this arrangement was temporary. It was an interim agreement that the British entered into while waiting for the transfer of Jurisdictions to the Somali Republic

 

Your attempt to mislead the good SOL readers has been thwarted once again so go back to the drawing board and come back with something else.

[Jacaylbaro]

So there was such thing called "Somaliland Government" isn't it ?? ,,

[Caano Geel]

Guys, don;t you think that arguing the phrasing of a term is like arguing the length of a piece of string.

Surely what is done is done. and the interesting thing is to understand what it means to be a somalilander as a opposed to a somali.

[me]

JB,

 

Your slower then you seem. Think horta.

 

If the Somali republic is the product of the merger between the two parts of Somalia that were colonized/occupied by the British and the Italians then this must mean a merger took place.

 

This merger or as these documents refer to the transfer of jurisdiction over the territory to the Somali republic took place 49 years ago today.

 

It should not be a novelty that British colonized certain sections of Northern Somalia and occupied other sections of Northern Somalia.

 

Those of us who are familiar with the history of Northern Somalia are aware of this.

 

The important thing here is that the two Somali territories were merged and a single Somali government was created.

 

Another interesting fact is the signatories of the agreement with the British on 26 June 1960.

 

As you can see the signatories represented the different communities in Northern Somalia in 1960.

 

Where the British only had one signatory, for the temporary Northern Somali government there were four signatories.

 

These four signatories also represented the different parties that were politically engaged and that only came together to transfer the Jurisdiction of Northern Somalia to the Somali Republic.

 

Some of the heirs of the jurisdiction of the signatories are alive today and they reject the unilateral decision of the secessionist elements in Northern Somalia today.

 

This article that you posted here in the vain believe that it would make any case in this good forum only exposed the weakness of the secessionist argument.

 

This is also the reason why the die hard defeated lot secessionist such us our unrecognized son of the Queen Oodweyne has not come to your rescue and left you to fend for yourself. They left you hanging high and dry my friend, because they know how weak this argument of yours is.

[me]

Welcome aboard Oodweyne .

 

As expected you provided the final nail on the coffin of this silly argument that our dear JB wanted to get past us.

 

Now that we have understood the setting where these interim agreements came from, we should not blow up or play down their significance.

 

As we have seen these letters do not provide the legitimacy that the secessionists of today's North West Somalia are looking for.

 

They actually discredit the secessionist cause and the four day argument that our JB wanted to highlight, in his usual amateurish fashion of course.

 

In the future keep your secessionist fetching monkey on a tight leash. As you see his copy pastings are costly.

 

And now I have made my point, I will leave you guys in peace. There is no need to create further divisions and hate, as we are all Somali Brothers from the same region. Politics should not get in the way of decency.

[Naxar Nugaaleed]

Oodka, whats going on with you, Sool and Las Anod. Every time you disagree with someone here you are dragging Sool and Las Anod into a petty disagreements. And a quick note, these weak administrations in Ceerigaabo and Las Anod do nothing to placate a multitude of the East whose aspirations are further South. If I were you, I would cautious in ringing any victory bells , because it is as easy if not easier to reclaim Las Anod for the other side as it was for the side you support to take it. What matters at the End of the day, is what the people want and lets be honest, Sland has a lot of ground to cover. It was said by Sun Tzu many, many centuries ago that underestimating your enemy is a grave mistake...

 

To me and JB, it behooves no one to dwell on a history we all know so well, we will learn nothing new and attempts here here to modify such history to confirm our modern beliefs is foolish. JB, yes Southern Somalia and Northern Somalia were different entities. Whatever they were, such borders were erased forever by northerners themselves. I don't understand the need to stake the raison d'être for Somalilands succession on such foolish misunderstanding of history, perhaps even intentional. Make you case with the here and now, believe thats a better case.

 

Me, to call the Somalis of the independence era, our parents and our grandparents, who trekked miles to see the british flag to be brought down in hargeisa to see their ultimate dream come true, to call these people patriotic seems, to me, like a huge understatements. JB, knows that. Oodka knows that. Yet we must not be in the business of forever subjugating the will, dreams and aspirations of people modern day to those of yesterday. It seems foolish to ignore that reality. we seem to face insurmountable obstacles: a south that refuses to settle and North divided West and East both dead set against what the other wants. Oversimplification and a retreat to the past will not solve those issues.

[me]

^ Nacxas Nugaaleed,

 

Adiga hadalkaaga igala leexo you Xabash!

 

How dare you speak the words Somali patriots, while you supported Xabash killing of our people.

[Naxar Nugaaleed]

^^

Childish as ever, when will you face reality? habasha, habasha meel kasta la orod. I really wonder what happened between you and these infamous xabashi? Needless to say, keep your patriotism to yourself and smell reality, you sound like a little child, but no "patriotism". Good grief man... Me me me, patriatism, me me me, grow up!

[Jacaylbaro]

I thought you were all saying there was no "Somaliland Government" existed in those days ,,,, what has changed now ??