baala xoofto Posted February 12, 2023 Shirkadaha Somaliland oo qaadhan ugu deeqay dadkii ka baro kacay Laascaanood. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Samafal Posted February 12, 2023 Perhaps he was expecting you to fight like a man in the battlefield and not shell mosques, hospitals and civilian houses, no???! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Samafal Posted February 12, 2023 30 minutes ago, baala xoofto said: I find it hilarious that you even raise Djbouti name into this. At least you could have waited for 1 or 2 months and claimed that Somaliland has run out of ammunitions or something. kkk Like I said, there has not been any major conflict so far. The Army's approach is softly softly and its aim is not to kill anyone but to force the Garaads to come to the negotiations table. If Army's brief included destroying the town, it has the capability, it can bombard the town night and day 24/7. At the moment, the army is only sending messages to the Garaads to come to the table. Bulsh*t. An army meesha ma joogo waa few maryacalas ah ee ha ishafrin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
baala xoofto Posted February 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Samafal said: Perhaps he was expecting you to fight like a man in the battlefield and not shell mosques, hospitals and civilian houses, no???! The army has many different positions around the town and around Sool region. Ask yourself, why they will never face Tukaraq, Gambahe, Adhi Cadeeye, Kala Baydh. If you fire and then run hide behind mum's house. Of course, mum's house will not be spared. If you want to spare mum's house, go out of the town and lets see what you are capable of. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
baala xoofto Posted February 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, Samafal said: Bulsh*t. An army meesha ma joogo waa few maryacalas ah ee ha ishafrin. The Army will win and you will be a witness to that victory. All the fake news will in the end amount to nothing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
baala xoofto Posted February 12, 2023 The Garaado had a lot of political power before they declared war. Today, they have nothing. They came to a town that was live and with economy booming. They are now have a town where even sugar is running out, no fuel, nothing. A lifeless town. The army has been there in their barracks for the last 15 years and is not going anywhere. It has all the time to play the game it wants to play. The pressure is on the Garaads to come to the negotiations table. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Samafal Posted February 12, 2023 30 minutes ago, baala xoofto said: The army has many different positions around the town and around Sool region. Ask yourself, why they will never face Tukaraq, Gambahe, Adhi Cadeeye, Kala Baydh. If you fire and then run hide behind mum's house. Of course, mum's house will not be spared. If you want to spare mum's house, go out of the town and lets see what you are capable of. So Siyaad was right to bomb Hargaysa and Burco to flash out a rebel group then? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Samafal Posted February 12, 2023 25 minutes ago, baala xoofto said: The Garaado had a lot of political power before they declared war. Today, they have nothing. They came to a town that was live and with economy booming. They are now have a town where even sugar is running out, no fuel, nothing. A lifeless town. The army has been there in their barracks for the last 15 years and is not going anywhere. It has all the time to play the game it wants to play. The pressure is on the Garaads to come to the negotiations table. They have got nothing to lose. It is their land and they will never give an inch. Believe me there is one way out of this and that is secessionist will vacate. History teaches us that an invading army never wins albeit a weak clan militia that have no proper command structure and poorly paid. In the end the death tall will take its toll and you will see fragmentation similar to the one we saw few days ago. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
baala xoofto Posted February 12, 2023 22 minutes ago, Samafal said: So Siyaad was right to bomb Hargaysa and Burco to flash out a rebel group then? Mind boggling. Comparing a genocidal army to Somaliland's Army. How low can you get? Prior to latest events, the Somaliland Army never even crossed paths with the locals. The local never even knew there was a huge army just stone throw's from the town. What took place in the North before 1988, can be classified as genocide. What took place during the 1988 can be classified as ethnic cleansing. The Gov't left no stone unturned to exterminate a whole clan. If they had chemical weapons, they would have used, no doubts. If 1% of what happened 1988 took place in Sool region, then the army is guilty as charged. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
baala xoofto Posted February 12, 2023 All for the camera: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Samafal Posted February 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, baala xoofto said: Mind boggling. Comparing a genocidal army to Somaliland's Army. How low can you get? Prior to latest events, the Somaliland Army never even crossed paths with the locals. The local never even knew there was a huge army just stone throw's from the town. What took place in the North before 1988, can be classified as genocide. What took place during the 1988 can be classified as ethnic cleansing. The Gov't left no stone unturned to exterminate a whole clan. If 1% of what happened 1988 took place in Sool region, then the army is guilty as charged. You have not answered my question was Siyad right to bomb Hargeisa and Burco to flash out what he considered a rebel and danger to the state? Don't digress. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
baala xoofto Posted February 12, 2023 23 minutes ago, Samafal said: You have not answered my question was Siyad right to bomb Hargeisa and Burco to flash out what he considered a rebel and danger to the state? Don't digress. Here is my response to that. First of all, Afwayne's regime was the sole Gov't in the country, and had access to the full gamut of all that entail to. So if the Gov't at the time had any intention to settle the issue in the North peacefully, it could have spared the North and Somalia of what happened next. So to answer you question, the Gov't of Siyad Barre already had blood on its hands, the bombing of Hargeisa/Burco was the next stage and progression of the "Scorched Earth Policy" that the regime unveiled in 1985. When you have killed, raped and burned alive people, what do you do next? You obviously want to leave no trace of that and destroy everything as well. It is like serial killer, was he right to use the bomb or the machine gun? The question or right or wrong just doesn't make sense. It is not a question of right or wrong. It was bound to happened because of the regime's history. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
galbeedi Posted February 13, 2023 8 minutes ago, baala xoofto said: "Scorched Earth Policy" that the regime unveiled in 1985. 28 minutes ago, Samafal said: You have not answered my question was Siyad right to bomb Hargeisa and Burco to flash out what he considered a rebel and danger to the state I am sick and tired of the children of evil rebels who destroyed our country compare the great state of Somalia which was notable in the continenet of Africa with these weak and corrupt despots who couldn't manage two or three town. I am sick and tired of hearing every comentator from respected people like Farah Macalin to the other arm chair analysts quiping the same frase, " Ma waxii Siyaad Barre Idinku sameeyey ayaad Laascaanood ku sameynaysaa", Ma waxii shalay aad ka cabanayseen ayaad dadka ku sameyneysaan". News flash for all: The military regime of Somalia was defending the Somali nation from the evil rebels armed by our historical enemy Mengistu Hailemarium who was the bloodest dictator of Africa killing a king, a provisional president and the leader of the Ethiopian Junta. He had a duty to flushout the rebels who sucidely stormed the second largest city of Somalia. By the way that war in Hargeisa city last only three weeks from late May to the late June 1988. The real war that destroyed Hargeisa and Burco Took place later. Do you fools know Mohamed Ibrahim Cigaal may-- he rest in peace-- had killed more people from 1994--1996 during the Maryo Allol wars that destroyed Burco and displaced tens of thousands of people. He was asked why he was waging the war? and he said, " Maamulkii yaraa ee aanu Boorama ku sameynay ayaanu bedbaadinaynay". Here Cigaal was killing over 5,000 people to preserve a minor regime that was only ruling between Berbera, Hargeisa and Boorama. If Jaale Siyaad and his government used scortched earth policy, there won't have been any uprising and everyone would have behaved like most Somalis under Ahmed Madoobe orMuuse Biixi. Here in North America if a criminal or some deranged person takes hostage someone with a gun, the swat team and the power of police will descend on him. Have you heard about a name by David Coresh who took hostage a church in Waco, Texas? after he refused to give up tanks were sent. The stupid Somali clans don't even understand what is at stake in terms of territorial soverignity and defending against rebels unleashed by Ethiopia. If Laascaanood was part of Somaliland why there was no Somaliland presence from 1991-2007. That was 16 years. Since when these enclaves Somali tribes set up during the vacuum have legitimate borders?. We all know there was no Somali government since 1991, other the those who control few blocks of Mogadishu.If those from Hargeisa think their survival is dependent of holding the free people of Sool hostage they are going down in the rabit hole quickly. Do you think bombing Laascaanood would make them love Somaliland? Some of us will be forming the October party of the Kacaankii Barakeysnaa. I know the evil rebels controled the airwaves from Mogadishu, Garoowe and Hargeisa for 30 years, and we have to present the real history of the evil alphabet rebels. Taariikh Cadawgii Dumiyey Qarankeenii waan soo bandhigaynaa. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AhmedGuled Posted February 13, 2023 Galbeedi you are partially right, but the SNM were formed because Barre would not leave power (like your typical Somali asshole) no different than the others. He had 11 years rule (1969-1980) to make Somalia better but he choose to only build Mogadishu which made other Somali regions angry. On top of that he started collective punishment of northern clan businesses. Yes, Somalia has had no government since 1991 because there is no more the Somali nation...the greatest enemy of Somalia is other Somalis..... look at assholes like BAALA XOOFTO or that dumb tribalist idiot with the white man avatar Xaaji Xunjuf. Lets not forget the emotional southerners who get triggered by constructive criticism. LOL Somalis are a lost course.... time to move on. I am in Berbera and I might return back to the U.K soon since the civil society in Somaliland is nonexistent. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
baala xoofto Posted February 13, 2023 1 hour ago, galbeedi said: If Laascaanood was part of Somaliland why there was no Somaliland presence from 1991-2007. That was 16 years. Since when these enclaves Somali tribes set up during the vacuum have legitimate borders?. We all know there was no Somali government since 1991, other the those who control few blocks of Mogadishu.If those from Hargeisa think their survival is dependent of holding the free people of Sool hostage they are going down in the rabit hole quickly. I will ignore the cantara-baqash of glorifying the failed genocidal regime of Afwayne. The question tha you have asked really shows what kind of person you are. You are too removed from reality. You should stop following Somali politics if you have no idea about. To briefly answer your question about Laascaanood between the years 1991-2007? The answer goes back to Afwayne. Afwayne didn't leave anything for anyone after him to build on. No maamul, no infrastructure, nothing. What Afwayne left behind was f*ckfest and warring clans who are at each other's throats withe zero trust. Case in point, just to move Food from one village to the next village was herculean task and coordinated effort. The SNM was the first armed group that actually brought all the clans in the North and the Agenda was "Lets all make Peace". The First time in over a 10 years, that the clans declared peace between their communities. To enforce that peace and demobilise the armed clans is a whole different story. 1 hour ago, galbeedi said: Do you think bombing Laascaanood would make them love Somaliland? If Somaliland was bombing Laascaanood, no building would be standing by now. The folks who murdered their own sons in order to start civil upraising will not stop at bombing a building themselves. Go Figure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites