Arafaat Posted February 29 Indeed, for they have stood firm on the right side of morality, and second their actions have been led by rationality and responsibility, the fundamentals for leadership. What do you think they should do if Heego regime dared to attack them? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Illyria Posted February 29 Well done to SSC - Khatumo. A great deal of difference between naturally born Admins vs IV forced ones. On 2/27/2024 at 8:14 AM, Xaaji Xunjuf said: man and somalis are made to fight we just cant stop that its human nature By all means, fight, but ask yourself: with whom? And for what causes? Definitely not fight your kin & kith. And must ONLY fight for the right causes. Borrow a page or two from our forefathers, who started on the tip of the Horn expanding all the way to the Tana river, Bale mountains, and deep into the heart of native African territories. Instead, you are working backwards, giving away prime lands, and targeting your own. Think man! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted February 29 50 minutes ago, Arafaat said: What do you think they should do if Heego regime dared to attack them? Timely question, listen to this report. I will share my thoughts later. Some of things in the report have confirmed by the locals. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arafaat Posted February 29 I have listened to it, and it’s also confirming suspicion of what Heego regimes and their Ethiopian military advisers are up to. Now it also makes sense why they are propagating so called Habro people being a persecuted clan in Somalia, as many people from would choose sides and come against the Heego-Habashi side. And they are trying to prevent that by propagating Habro as victims of Somalia, so that people to choose side of the Heego regime or stay neutral from the conflict. But nobody beliefs the regime’s propaganda and fake crocodile tears, despite their online armies full propaganda campaign. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted February 29 On 2/27/2024 at 1:47 AM, Che -Guevara said: Will HJ submit to Bixiye's attempt to lit a fire on the region? habar love shares 17 villages with the garaad clan if muuse is going to push for a war with the garaad clan then for sure the habar love has to be involved there is no other way , they would need some concessions though that their kaah party will be a party with in Somaliland and replace the ucid party but it will be a dillema because waraabe is his ally these days he cant shoot him in the back, he might forge an alliance between waraabe and ina xaashi not sure if that work if they can share a party , or he has to screw waraabe which is unlikely he do but he needs habar love , perhaps he will concinvce faisal to succeed selebaan gaal and give ina xaashi the party the end of ucid though faisal would sit then on the second bigger political instittion in SL the head of the guurti its going to be difficult really , But habar love is needed if another war is going to happen which is very likely knowing Biiixi the defeat of 25 august wax u ku masooxoo bu raba Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted February 29 3 hours ago, Che -Guevara said: Timely question, listen to this report. I will share my thoughts later. Some of things in the report have confirmed by the locals. gaylan media is a bit biased towards the bunker dont u think he doenst even say badda Somaliland ba la qaadanaya he says badda somalia la qaadanaya badda somaliland goormay badda somalia noqotay if he wanted to be political correct and say it like it was he should have said baddi jamhuriyadi somalida la qaadanaaya ileen somaliland signed to be part of the Somali republic in 1960 not to be part of somalia. now that we have left the semantics i said it before and though gaylan media is right the land that is being leased isnt the borama clan tribal territory its ceel sheeikh though it borders their land but it isnt their land Muse did that so that there wont be any uprise in Awdal about this about sool i doubt the Ethiopians would be in a militiary alliance with Somaliland to retake laascanood what do they benefit from this and muse should refrain from this , it would be the biggest ceeb if that happend Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted February 29 Arafat, SSC folks can respond in two ways depending on who attacks. If Bixiye and his goons attack by themselves, SSC should respond harshly but proportionally. Whoever Bixiye recruited for the new wave of attacks is not well trained or as experienced as the previous Sland 'army', More importantly, SSC forces are battle-hardened. SSC are far better in messaging and they will have the support of the Somali public as they are not the aggressors. HSM gave Bixiye political cover during the LA siege, but this time around, HSM might not be so generous. If Ethiopia gets involved directly or bullies SSC by establishing bases inside SSC territories, everything should be on the table. We can't have Abiy think he can set up shop everywhere. This will also be the time for HSM and his admin to put up or shut. Either way, we shouldn't underestimate Bixiye's desperation and bruised ego, and Abiy's attempt to externalize his country's problems. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted February 29 4 minutes ago, Xaaji Xunjuf said: gaylan media is a bit biased towards the bunker dont u think he doenst even say badda Somaliland ba la qaadanaya he says badda somalia la qaadanaya badda somaliland goormay badda somalia noqotay if he wanted to be political correct and say it like it was he should have said baddi jamhuriyadi somalida la qaadanaaya ileen somaliland signed to be part of the Somali republic in 1960 not to be part of somalia. now that we have left the semantics i said it before and though gaylan media is right the land that is being leased isnt the borama clan tribal territory its ceel sheeikh though it borders their land but it isnt their land Muse did that so that there wont be any uprise in Awdal about this about sool i doubt the Ethiopians would be in a militiary alliance with Somaliland to retake laascanood what do they benefit from this and muse should refrain from this , it would be the biggest ceeb if that happend Xaaji, let's not indulge in the same old mantra. Xamar indeed has no physical control over Hargeisa, but Sland is legally under Xamar. No amount of saying Sland waa qaran will change that. And despite what Ethiopians are saying, Abiy walked into a legal minefield which he is too proud to extricate himself from. Most wars are started due to errors in judgment or hubris. It seems Abiy and Bixiye made serious errors and are too proud to back down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted February 29 i am not saying SL is recognised or a free independent state its a defacto country all but having dejure recognition . How ever if he was being correct he should have used the right terminology which is the Somali republic. if u saying Somaliland seas are Somalai seas ur putting Somaliland in the same boat as jubbaland puntlant galmuduug who actually are part of Somalia. Which is non existent today the country Adan adde signed at the UN in 1960 was called the Somali republic this Somalia after 2012 balala so baxay even afweyne called it the democratic Somali republic. If Abiye Signed the lease agreement with Somaliland and Somaliland cant deliver him the land then the lease deal isnt going if bixii can how ever deliver the land then it can go through. lets say if Abiye asked Hassan sheikh for lands in Somaliland to lease i mean lets say yes hassan sheikh is the leader or the legal leader of what was once known as the Somali republic recognised by the UN and the world and if hassan said abiye i signed u a piece of land in Somaliland that u can use as ur naval forces. And Abiye goes to Hargeisa and says here i have the signature of ulusow he gave me this land , ii baneeyaa . Do you think it can go through it might be legally binding but it cant be enforced Hassan sheikh ba saxeexay means nothing to the Ethiopians because he cant visit lughaye or what everland in Somaliland . yes laakin signuture wu bixin kara true wa run balse signaturekaaasi ma hirgeli karo thats what i am saying. thats what the Ehtiopian ambasssador said he said hadanu dhul weydisano culusow dhul somaliland ku yaal nama siin karo so we dealth with who ever is in charge in Hargeisa . about the whole legal thing if the mou is signed and implamented then there needs to be recognition from Ethiopia right away then they can say we are dealing with an independent state if a few other countries in africa follow suit then its done deal then the legal case of SL stands , the same way kosovo can enter bilitral deals with any country in the world. it would be a single problem. The issue comes and becomes a problem if the Ethiopians dont keep their word and dont recognise Somaliland if that happens first the deal will be damaged and then it wont have leg to stand on.. either way we dont see bixi and abiye to back down as u said meel ay ka noqdaan ma haystan siday u eegtahay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted February 29 31 minutes ago, Che -Guevara said: Arafat, SSC folks can respond in two ways depending on who attacks. If Bixiye and his goons attack by themselves, SSC should respond harshly but proportionally. Whoever Bixiye recruited for the new wave of attacks is not well trained or as experienced as the previous Sland 'army', More importantly, SSC forces are battle-hardened. SSC are far better in messaging and they will have the support of the Somali public as they are not the aggressors. HSM gave Bixiye political cover during the LA siege, but this time around, HSM might not be so generous. If Ethiopia gets involved directly or bullies SSC by establishing bases inside SSC territories, everything should be on the table. We can't have Abiy think he can set up shop everywhere. This will also be the time for HSM and his admin to put up or shut. Either way, we shouldn't underestimate Bixiye's desperation and bruised ego, and Abiy's attempt to externalize his country's problems. i doubt it Hassan hates certain clans more then anything he might dislike bixii for back stabbing him but i dont think he honestly wants ssc to defeat Somaliland he only brought ssc to xamar to play them against puntland. But i dont think he wants to be seen and alienate Somaliland , for he wants re election 10ka cod eeh reer laascanood meel ma gaadhisinayo he knows this two. they are not a fan of him marki hore ba Hassan sheikh doesnt calculate the way people think. if another conflict happens u will see hamza talking about this issue because wa reerkisa.. but hassan u wont hear him one bit he will only say badeena itoobiya ma qadaan karto waxaaso uun bu odhan doona Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted February 29 The oromo youth have arrived in oog apparently some people have killed them from the garaad clan and they are ready to wage war against the garaad clan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted February 29 Las Anod cases submitted International Criminal Court (ICC) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted February 29 they really put allot of trust in the failed bunker government to much how can they monitor anything . haday puntland odhan lahayeen waxbay ahaan lahayd Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Illyria Posted March 1 Todd Schoenberg Lawyer & Law Firm Boston btselem.org @ToddSchoenberg The International Criminal Court in the Netherlands has accepted a case file from Khatumo authorities, who have turned over war criminals. The Leader, Abdulkadir Ahmed Awcali, has indicated that the names of the criminals will be publicized. This move reflects the Khatumo authorities' dedication to pursuing justice for the horrors done in their region. The community will eagerly watch the proceedings at the criminal court to ensure justice is delivered. While many local citizens applauded this news, the majority wanted justice to be administered in Lasanod, where the criminals committed their crimes. If the ICJ finds them guilty in Europe, they ICJ don't endorse the death penalty. For these top-ranking militiamen, living in Europe's jail is more luxurious than the harsh conditions in Somalia. Facing justice in an international court sends a clear message that no one is above the law, no matter where they hide. It is a beacon of hope for the victims and their families, who have long desired justice and accountability for the horrible crimes done against the resident of Las Anod. https://twitter.com/ToddSchoenberg/status/1763231024849276958?s=20 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arafaat Posted March 8 Firdhiye: Waan la dagaalamaynaa Itoobiya haddii ay ciidan dul keento degaanada SSC- Khaatumo Khamiis, Maarso, 7, 2024 (HOL) - Hoggaamiyaha maamulka SSC-Khaatumo, Cabdiqaadir Axmed Aw-cali Firdhiye ayaa uga digay dowladda Itoobiya inay soo faro galiso arrimaha gudaha ee degaanada maamulkiisa. Hoggaamiye Firdhiye oo maanta kumanaan shacab ah kula hadlayay fagaare kuyaala magaalada Laascaanood, ayaa sheegay inay jiraan warar sheegaya in ciidamo Itoobiyaan ah la dul keenayo degaanada SSC uu ka arrimiyo maamulkiisa. “Waxaanu aqbali karayno ma ahan, ma aqbalayno. Dadkayaga iyo dalkayaga annagaa ka masuul ah. In ciidamo kale la dulkeeno ama lasoo fara galiyo, ma aqbalayno, waana ka dagaalamaynaa,” ayuu yiri Hoggaamiyaha SSC- Khaatumo, Firdhiye. Firdhiye ayaa ugu baaqay dowladda federaalka Soomaaliya inay caddeyso mowqifkeeda Soomaalinimo. Wuxuu sheegay in looga baahan yahay in ay ka qeyb qaataan sidii dalka looga difaaci lahaa cid walba oo khatar ku ah midnimada dalka. Hoggaamiyaha SSC wuxuu ku amray ciidamadiisa inay heegan buuxda galaan, una diyaar daroobaan duulaan kaste oo kaga yimaada dhinaca Somaliland. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites