Arms embargo to be lifted??

[General Duke]

QM oo cunaqabataynta hubka ka qaadaysa Soomaaliya

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- 11.July.2006 Golaha Ammaanka ee Qaramada Midoobey ayaa mabda’ ahaan isku raacay in Soomaaliya laga qaado xayiraadda hubka ee saarnayd

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Isku raacidda golaha ammaanka ee Qaramada Midoobey ee qaadista xayiraadda hubka Soomaaliya ayaa ka dambeysey kadib markii go’aha ammaanku ay ka doodeen isla markaasna eegeen warbixinaha Midowga Afrika, Midowga Yurub iyo guddigii xaqiiqa raadinta ee dhowaan Soomaaliya booqday, kuwaas oo dhammaantood ku taliyey in Soomaaliya laga qaado xayiraadda hubka.

 

Toddobaadka soo socda ayaa lagu wadaa in golaha ammaanku uu si rasmi ah u ansixiyo qaadista xayiraadda hubka ee Soomaaliya, tallaabadaas oo oggolaansho rasmi ah siineysa in Soomaaliya loo soo diro ciidamo nabadda ilaaliya.

 

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[General Duke]

Cunaqabatayntii xagga hubka Soomaaliya oo la qaadi doono

 

 

New York:-Golaha Ammaanka ee Qaramada Midoobey ayaa mabda’ ahaan isku raacay in Soomaaliya laga qaado cuna qabataynta hubka ee saarnayd dalka tan iyo sadii 1993markii ay ka baxeen ciidamadii American iyo kuwii aduunka kale iyaga oo aan wax xal ah ka gaarin dhibaatadii Soomaaliya ka jirtay.

 

Arintan ay isku raaceen Qaramada Midoobey ee qaadista xayiraadda hubka Soomaaliya ayaa ka dambeysey kadib markii golaha ammaanku ay ka doodeen isla markaasna eegeen warbixinaha Midowga Afrika,urur goboleedka IGAD, Midowga Yurub iyo weliba ka socday beesha caalamka oo dhowaan booqday Soomaaliya,waxana ay guud ahaan isku raaceen in la qaado xayiraada hubka si loo celiyo hay’adihii dawliga ahaa.

 

In la qaado xayiraada ayaa waxaa soo dedejisay ka dib markii maxaakiimta islaamigu ay meesha ka saareen hogaamiye kooxeedyadii ka talin jiray magaalada Muqdisho,waxaana inta badan dalalka deriska ah oo ay hormuud ka tahay dawlada Ethiopia, iyo reer galbeedku u arkeen khatar soo korortay.

 

Waxaa laga yaabaa in todobaadka dhexdiisa si buuxda ay QM xayiraada hubka u qaado Soomaaliya taasi oo in badan FS ay dalbanaysay beesha caalamka si dawladu u noqoto mid awood leh oo shaqaysa.

 

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[General Duke]

Golaha amaanka oo isku raacay in la qaado xayiraada hubka ee saaran Somalia

 

New-york 11, July. 06 ( Sh.M.Network ) Xubnaha golaha amaanka ee Q.M ayaa isku raacay in xayiraada hubka ee saaran Somalia la qaado, iyadoo loo balamay dabayaaqada todobaadkaan in la ansixiyo qodobkani.

 

K/xigeenka Safiirka Somalia u fadhiya Q.M Ciid Badal Maxamed oo u waramay Shabelle ayaa waxa uu sheegay in dowladaha xubnaha ka ah golaha amaanka ay isku raaceen in la qaado xayiraada hubka ee saaran Somalia.

 

Ciid Badala ayaa waxa uu intaasi ku daray in kulanka la soo hordhigay war bixino qoraal ah oo laga helay sida uu sheegay waxyaabihii ka soo baxay kulan madaxeedka lagu qabtey magaalada Banjul ee dalka Gambia.

 

Sidoo kale golaha amaanka ayaa waxaa la hordhigay war bixino ay soo direen Midowga Yurub iyo Gudigii xaqiiqo raadinta ee dhowaan yimid dalka Somalia ayaa golaha dood dheer uu ka yeeshay waxa uu isku raacay in Mabda' ahaan la qaado xayiraada hubka, iyadoo go'aanka arinkaasi ku aadan dhowaan ay ku dhawaaqayaan golaha.

 

Dowladda FS ayaa u ololeyneysay in la qaado xayiraada hubka ee saaran Somalia si ay u soo galaan ciidamo nabad ilaalineed oo dowladda ka caawiya xagga amaanka.

 

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[General Duke]

SOMALIA: UN PRESS RELEASE

 

Tue. July 11, 2006 12:25 pm.

 

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United Nations Political Office for Somalia (UNPOS)

 

Secretary General’s Special Representative for Somalia Briefs UN Security Council on the Rise of ‘Hardliners’ and other Security Concerns

 

Ambassador Fall warns of a grave and continuing humanitarian emergency

 

New York 11 July - The Secretary-General’s Special Representative for Somalia, Francois Lonseny Fall, told members of the United Nations Security Council in New York yesterday that the rise of ‘hardliners’ within the Islamic Courts poses a serious threat to the peace process and to the country’s Transitional Federal Institutions (TFIs) in particular.

 

Ambassador Fall told the Council that expectations raised by the 22 June Khartoum meeting between the three main leaders of the TFIs and a delegation of the Islamic Courts, under the auspices of the League of Arab States, had been quickly eroded by cease-fire violations.

 

Against the backdrop of renewed fighting in Mogadishu since the weekend, Ambassador Fall said that finding a compromise during a second round of discussions scheduled for Khartoum on Saturday (15 July) would be difficult, given the fact that the Islamic Courts no longer hid their aspirations of ruling all of Somalia.

 

Ambassador Fall noted that although “a semblance of peace and security†had returned to Mogadishu and the surrounding areas before the latest round of fighting, some of the Islamic Courts had begun to assert versions of Shariah Law and security in Mogadishu and militias of the three defeated warlords of the anti-terrorist alliance, continued to hold onto small sections of the city. The murder on 23 June of Martin Adler, a Swedish journalist on assignment in Mogadishu, had also raised concerns about security for foreigners in the city, he said.

 

The humanitarian situation in the country remained grave, he said. Armed conflict in Mogadishu had exacerbated an already dire situation in a country where coping mechanisms are overstretched. Although timely rains had averted a possible famine in some areas of southern Somalia, the situation demanded reinforced and sustained efforts to address vast humanitarian needs and southern Somalia would remain in a state of humanitarian emergency at least until December 2006. Among the worst affected, were some 250,000 Somalis now internally displaced within Mogadishu itself.

 

Ambassador Fall is scheduled to meet the Press at today’s noon briefing by the Secretary General’s Spokesman in New York. Live Webcast: http://www.un.org/webcast/index.asp

 

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[me]

Lets all pray for our country.

 

The lifting of the weapons embargo is good news and its also bad news. Allot of people will be killed in the time to come

 

God bless Somalia, God save Somalia

 

Foreign Troops is not the solution, let him build a Somali National army from all Somali regions with educated officers.

 

God save us all.

[Duufaan]

if this is more than rumors, we will see. The ambassador made mistake revealing this imformation too early, if he known what he is talking about. The court have enough time to act, politically or military and do so to change things for their favor.

[General Duke]

^^^I could not find anything outside the Somali media. However I do not think it was the Ambasador interview, the UN security council seems to have agreed. The difference now is that Koffi Annan is on board, the US is also using the AU programm as proof of their new unilateral policy towards Somalia....

 

U.S. cites African support for policy on Somalia

 

Tue Jul 11, 2006 11:55 PM BST

 

 

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States said on Tuesday that its opposition to the emergence of a militant Islamist state in Somalia has won support from the country's neighbours in east Africa.

 

Jendayi Frazer, assistant secretary of state for African affairs, said it was not clear if the powerful Islamist courts movement that has captured a large swath of southern Somalia can overcome clan barriers to form a broader political front.

 

Somalia, which has had no effective central government for 15 years, has seen some of its worst fighting in recent months as Islamists defeated a U.S.-backed coalition of secular warlords in the capital Mogadishu.

 

Frazier spoke as Mogadishu's last secular warlord surrendered to the Islamists after two days of heavy fighting in which more than 60 people died.

 

She told a Senate subcommittee that the international community, from the African Union to the Arab League and United Nations, view Somalia's fragile transitional federal government as the country's only legitimate governing body.

 

Frazer, who recently returned from a trip to the region, urged the Islamists to engage the government in dialogue.

 

"Leaders in the region are urging stronger U.S. engagement," she said.

 

"We speak with one voice, I believe except for Eritrea, in opposing an extremist Islamist takeover of the government in Somalia," she said.

 

U.S. officials say al Qaeda, which used Somalia as a base to bomb the U.S. embassies in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania and Nairobi, Kenya in 1998, still has a presence in the country and could expand operations under the protection of government run by Islamist extremists.

 

 

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[General Duke]

UN council eyes foreign peacekeepers for Somalia

 

By Irwin Arieff

Reuters

Tuesday, July 11, 2006; 6:12 PM

 

UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - Britain circulated a draft U.N. Security Council statement on Tuesday that diplomats said could eventually open the door to a long-delayed deployment of foreign peacekeepers in Somalia.

 

The draft statement, a copy of which was obtained by Reuters, would express the council's willingness to consider plans for a "peacekeeping support operation" as proposed by the African Union and the seven-nation regional Inter-Governmental Authority on Development, or IGAD.

 

Council support for foreign peacekeeping troops for the Horn of Africa country -- which has had no real central authority since 1991 -- would be crucial as the soldiers could not go in unless the council eased a 1992 arms embargo.

 

The draft would also express the council's readiness to ease the arms ban to enable Somalia's shaky Transitional Federal Government to develop its own security forces.

 

The Western-backed interim government was formed in neighboring Kenya in 2004 with help from IGAD. It is based in Baidoa, 150 miles northwest of Mogadishu, because it was too weak to set up in the former capital.

 

Mogadishu, long dominated by feuding warlords, was captured on June 5 by Islamists seeking to impose Sharia law across the country. The Islamists also oppose foreign peacekeepers, although interim President Abdullahi Yusuf says they are needed to get his government on its feet and pacify the country.

 

Council action on Somalia has been stalled for weeks over internal divisions. The United States has been hesitant to embrace the idea of easing the arms embargo, while China has argued this was merited by the need for foreign peacekeepers.

 

A formal council statement would require a unanimous vote of the 15-nation council to be issued.

 

Francois Lonseny Fall, Secretary-General Kofi Annan's special envoy for Somalia, told the Security Council in a closed-door briefing on Monday that Islamic hard-liners aspired to control all of Somalia and posed a serious threat to its fledgling interim government, his office said in a statement.

 

But Fall told reporters on Tuesday he was encouraged that the interim authorities and the Islamists had met once in Sudan in June and were due to meet there a second time on Saturday.

 

He urged both sides to launch talks aimed at stability.

[Gabbal]

Duke, the US House was also advised this:

 

The international community has taken to trying to shore up the so-called “Transitional Federal Government†based in Baidoa and led by Abdullahi Yusuf Ahmed, a former warlord who is as much a terrorist as his Islamist opponents...all this comes as of now surprise for those who have followed Abdullahi’s career and recall that he was the protégé of Ethiopia’s Marxist tyrant, Mengistu Hailemariam, as well as a recipient of the largesse of Libyan leader Mu’ammar Qaddafi during a period when the latter was actively engaged in state sponsored terrorism...in any event, the utility of engaging the rather notional interim government is rather questionable. It took two years of negotiation with self-appointed “leaders†to set up the transitional government in October 2004 and give it a five-year mandate. This “government†has yet to enter its capital and has even failed to assert complete control in its temporary base in Baidoa. “President†Abdullahi rarely visits Somalia itself and it is painfully apparent that his base of support is weak, if existent at all.

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About any (non-)possibility of the lifting of the arms embargo-

 

Like I have said a dozen times Duke, do you think its lifting only applies to Abdulahi Yusuf? I find this obsession with the arms embargo extremely naive and even at times amusing. It's as if Abdulahi Yusuf supporters have made this issue the do or die of the government (not with standing the fact it also opens the door for every other single individual in Somalia to legitimately import weapons to keep the country aflame)! If Abulahi Yusuf, his advisors, and supporters truly believe (which I believe they do!) that the lifting of the arms embargo is a particular political triumph, then I have absaloutely no doubts as to why the "Federal Institution" has zilch to show after more the half the time of its mandate over.

[Duufaan]

just advice from PHAM! It is not secret the TNG is weak. Some under estimation of course from eyes of foreingers. do the TNG controll Baydhabo? this question was asked by Frazer in the hearing , she replied " Much of it" However It seems they decided to support Odey Abdulaahi to begin with, this will put Odey Abdilaahi in the top. The importantce of lifting the embargo is huge, it is all depedends how the TNG take advantage the deal

[General Duke]

Horn, your source above was from last year, since then much has changed since then. The US stance has changed also.

 

How can the governemnt procure arms without the lifting of the arms embargo, and it does apply to the governemnt since the warlords and now courts have recieved wepons from a number of countries.

 

Its laughable that you pretend to be more intellegent than the government of Somalia and the international community on this issue..

 

The warlords were against the lifting of the ban, they must have had the best interest of the nation. Now their offspring the courts are against it, while most of the nation would support a strong Somali government not held hostage to certain armed clans...

[raadamiir]

Great news indeed.

 

That Arms embargo really needs to be lifted for the sake of the Somalia people.

 

Once the Arms embargo is lifted this so called weak Government let's just say won't be that weak.

 

The enemies within don't want the Arms embargo to be lifted because they don't care about Somaliweyn they only care about their war-lord let it be the ones in Kismayo or Mogdishu.

[Gabbal]

Adeer even I find it insulting when you call the Islamic Courts "an offspring of the warlords". Just yesterday, members of a single sub-clan annihilated each other in the hopes of disarming one of their negatives. Give credit where it's due, waa hadaadne Muslim sheeganaysi. Aan ku xasuusiyo; Abdulahi Yusuf baan u carabaynaye jana ku gelin mayso!

 

 

ts laughable that you pretend to be more intellegent than the government of Somalia and the international community on this issue..

Adeer, I don't pretend, I think I am. Politicians pick an issue (often without importance) and stick to it like a gun hoping to convince their base. What's truly tragic in this case is Abdulahi Yusuf's base (as correctly stated) is zero to none. [i'm too aware to even say his clan support him to the levels portrayed in this forum]. So what is the point of sticking to this issue which can really be deemed something to snicker at much the same as if one was watching a circus side show.. What it shows, however, is political ineptitude, lack of competent policy advisors, and, really, not having the interest of the Somali nation at heart!

 

It's becoming more appearent that the "federal institution" in Baidoa should be disbanded. Any progressive Somali can see it's an obstacle to peace, security, and the development towards a prospering sovereign state with its territorial integrity and self-respect intact.

[Gabbal]

The enemies within don't want the Arms embargo to be lifted because they don't care about Somaliweyn they only care about their war-lord let it be the ones in Kismayo or Mogdishu.

What's ironic adeer is that "my warlord" in Kismaayo will just as much have the green light as Abdulahi Yusuf to import as much weapons as possible. What I am willing to understand, however, is even Hiiraale having more then the weapons necessary enough to defend the people he was sent to protect from Morgan is a detriment to his person, the forces he represents, and through that to the whole Somali nation.

 

Though you can't possibly understand this sxb, when I stand against the lifting of the arms embargo, I am really idealistic in that I believe the current armaments will dry themselves up and will not necessitate the continuity of warefare (which would have happened long ago if the arms embargo was actually enforced). Even Hiiraale will not have a mandate anymore as there would be no more agression. Hence, Kismaayo will hopefully once again come under the administration of a Somali government and loose its designation as a "reer hebel" controlled city that has so tarnished its image during the civil war.

[Naxar Nugaaleed]

UN council eyes foreign peacekeepers for Somalia

By Irwin Arieff

Reuters

Tuesday, July 11, 2006; 6:12 PM

 

UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - Britain circulated a draft U.N. Security Council statement on Tuesday that diplomats said could eventually open the door to a long-delayed deployment of foreign peacekeepers in Somalia.

 

The draft statement, a copy of which was obtained by Reuters, would express the council's willingness to consider plans for a "peacekeeping support operation" as proposed by the African Union and the seven-nation regional Inter-Governmental Authority on Development, or IGAD.

 

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Council support for foreign peacekeeping troops for the Horn of Africa country -- which has had no real central authority since 1991 -- would be crucial as the soldiers could not go in unless the council eased a 1992 arms embargo.

 

The draft would also express the council's readiness to ease the arms ban to enable Somalia's shaky Transitional Federal Government to develop its own security forces.

 

The Western-backed interim government was formed in neighboring Kenya in 2004 with help from IGAD. It is based in Baidoa, 150 miles northwest of Mogadishu, because it was too weak to set up in the former capital.

 

Mogadishu, long dominated by feuding warlords, was captured on June 5 by Islamists seeking to impose Sharia law across the country. The Islamists also oppose foreign peacekeepers, although interim President Abdullahi Yusuf says they are needed to get his government on its feet and pacify the country.

 

Council action on Somalia has been stalled for weeks over internal divisions. The United States has been hesitant to embrace the idea of easing the arms embargo, while China has argued this was merited by the need for foreign peacekeepers.

 

A formal council statement would require a unanimous vote of the 15-nation council to be issued.

 

Francois Lonseny Fall, Secretary-General Kofi Annan's special envoy for Somalia, told the Security Council in a closed-door briefing on Monday that Islamic hard-liners aspired to control all of Somalia and posed a serious threat to its fledgling interim government, his office said in a statement.

 

But Fall told reporters on Tuesday he was encouraged that the interim authorities and the Islamists had met once in Sudan in June and were due to meet there a second time on Saturday.

 

He urged both sides to launch talks aimed at stability.