Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar Posted June 6, 2023 9 minutes ago, maakhiri1 said: Extra protection for Garaads, secessionists are getting very desperate They are staying in very secure Decale Airport Hotel, which is right in front of garoonka Aaden Cadde's arrivals gate. Laakiin transportation is another whole issue. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arafaat Posted June 6, 2023 2 hours ago, Qurac&qansax said: as i said it before, there will be a lot of opportunity to take selfie, but the statuesque on the ground is not going to change and will not going to come from Xamar, but the battle field. good luck Garaadyo. You are right that a solution will not come from Xamar, but neither will it come from the battle field. Just as for all civil conflicts and wars, the Somali civil wars and clan conflicts can only be ended through sincere dialogue, mediation and a negotiated political settlement, can be the only solution, even if takes decades of protracted conflict. Surely, we should have learned that by now from the decades of civil war and clan conflicts we have seen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted June 7, 2023 26 minutes ago, Arafaat said: You are right that a solution will not come from Xamar, but neither will it come from the battle field. Just as for all civil conflicts and wars, the Somali civil wars and clan conflicts can only be ended through sincere dialogue, mediation and a negotiated political settlement, can be the only solution, even if takes decades of protracted conflict. Surely, we should have learned that by now from the decades of civil war and clan conflicts we have seen. The problem is greater than the usual clan squabbles. There's a fundamental difference that's hard to bridge, one group wants to force another from separating from their home country, and the other wants to stay. And as the war drags on, it is clear neither have the might to subdue the other. Political settlement is the way, but will come at a price. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maakhiri1 Posted June 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Arafaat said: You are right that a solution will not come from Xamar, but neither will it come from the battle field. Just as for all civil conflicts and wars, the Somali civil wars and clan conflicts can only be ended through sincere dialogue, mediation and a negotiated political settlement, can be the only solution, even if takes decades of protracted conflict. Surely, we should have learned that by now from the decades of civil war and clan conflicts we have seen. How can you negotiate someone telling your land is mine, and was given to me by British? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arafaat Posted June 7, 2023 4 hours ago, Che -Guevara said: The problem is greater than the usual clan squabbles. There's a fundamental difference that's hard to bridge, one group wants to force another from separating from their home country, and the other wants to stay. And as the war drags on, it is clear neither have the might to subdue the other. Political settlement is the way, but will come at a price. The political differences are not impossible to bridge, it won’t be easy coming to an acceptable compromise and for sure it will come with a price for either parties. But that’s what you have leadership for to navigate through these kind of issues, to take action not just a position. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arafaat Posted June 7, 2023 3 hours ago, maakhiri1 said: How can you negotiate someone telling your land is mine, and was given to me by British? Same as you would negotiate with AMISOM on their departure from Somalia, with Kenya on their withdrawal from Kismayo, with the UAE on stopping their political interference, with Ethiopian on trespassing and violating your borders and sovereignty. It’s not that difficult, it’s called diplomacy and understand that it’s a job, a profession and also a trait which some people are highly gifted in. And definitely not something every Abdi, Farah and Faisal in Somali politics should be tasked with. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maakhiri1 Posted June 7, 2023 14 minutes ago, Arafaat said: Same as you would negotiate with AMISOM on their departure from Somalia, with Kenya on their withdrawal from Kismayo, with the UAE on stopping their political interference, with Ethiopian on trespassing and violating your borders and sovereignty. It’s not that difficult, it’s called diplomacy and understand that it’s a job, a profession and also a trait which some people are highly gifted in. And definitely not something every Abdi, Farah and Faisal in Somali politics should be tasked with. I agree with you, somehow, SL is also becoming like SOUTH where traditional leaders's powers and roles, are now corrupted by politicians I honestly believe the unnecessary killings can be stopped, with honest discussions, ,This is massive fail of diplomacy, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Qurac&qansax Posted June 7, 2023 8 hours ago, Arafaat said: You are right that a solution will not come from Xamar, but neither will it come from the battle field. Just as for all civil conflicts and wars, the Somali civil wars and clan conflicts can only be ended through sincere dialogue, mediation and a negotiated political settlement, can be the only solution, even if takes decades of protracted conflict. Surely, we should have learned that by now from the decades of civil war and clan conflicts we have seen. you have a point, what is needed is dialogue, negotiation and medication, but as you know it takes two to tango, if the otherside is not intersting in settlements and want to take your house by force the options will be limited..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tillamook Posted June 10, 2023 On 6/8/2023 at 8:29 AM, Che -Guevara said: It is unfortunate that the leadership of the hapless, helpless and hopeless h@bro will not heed the Garaad’s guarantee of safe passage out of Sool. They are continue to remain victims to the phenomenon of “sunk costs” due to all the money, time, and nonsensical justifications over they years that they have invested into their wet dreams of secession. In particular, Muse Biixi and his venal cabal have made a significant investment in shaping the current situation of profiting from the disenfranchisement of SSC folks , and many more reer sheikh Ishak have learned to function and profit within it. They know nothing else, so they will continue to foolishly resist the new unstoppable reality in northern Somalia that the Garaads have ushered in. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Game changer Posted June 10, 2023 22 minutes ago, Tillamook said: It is unfortunate that the leadership of the hapless, helpless and hopeless h@bro will not heed the Garaad’s guarantee of safe passage out of Sool. That's a pure fantasy, you don't have the balls to defeat somaliland military , it's absolutely impossible. Drods are genetically enable to resist Isq. Microphone waad noo qaadan kartaan iyo keyboard laakiin qori nooma qaadan kartaan. Dad maato ahbad tihiin oo aan hub culusna haysan. Military ahaan waa idinka adagnahay. Anagu naaganu markii horeba magaalada uga baxnay, naagihiina ilaahay baa na dhaafiyey yaga iyo caruur toodiba. 7 cashaad sheegteene 700 oo sanaanu joogayna hadaanu doono. UN Kan iyo waxan aad baryeysaana anaga wax Ka weynay. Sharcigooduba nama qabto. UN Ku intu tunka na qabto meesha naga saari maayo. Maraykana na duqayn maayo , mutuloodma idiinma soo socdo. Ilaahuun baa naga kiin celin kara , ilaahay barya walaalayal , waxa laga yaaba denbi aad hore u gasheen baa laydinka jarayaaye kkkkkkkkk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted July 5, 2023 Garaad ka fulaysan waligay ma arag jamac garaad ali Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Illyria Posted July 6, 2023 Adoo kale xaaja rag wax lagaama weydiiyo, yet once the ongoing operation has been completed, I'll put a question to you, but till then dance, my dear boy, dance to your heart's content. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arafaat Posted July 6, 2023 10 hours ago, Xaaji Xunjuf said: Garaad ka fulaysan waligay ma arag jamac garaad ali By insulting the Garaad, who is a tradition leader of a community, you’re also insulting a whole community which is completely unnecessary! Surely you can bring forward your position and arguments, without insulting traditional leaders? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites