Che -Guevara Posted August 28, 2010 Ludicrous idea, isn’t it? How can I suggest such a treacherous idea when I am known as an unflinching advocate for Somaliland’s independence and sovereignty? How could I dare even to utter the ugly U-word which I have denigrated so forcefully and irrevocably in many of my writings? I can see jaws dropping with bewilderment, devoted readers unbelievably double checking the source, and some of those already besotted with cynicism against the loyalty of clans on the fringes of Somaliland jumping to conclusion as soon as they see the title without reading any further and saying with a great sense of satisfaction: “Hey, gotcha? We knew all along that he was a unionist in disguise?” Likewise, I can see also unionist “Somalilanders” getting ecstatic about my rebellious approach. Before anyone jumps to any conclusions, I would like to point out that Somaliland has chosen democracy as its system of government. And democracy entails equality and freedom for all citizens. Under the tree of freedom come its many branches such as freedom of speech, freedom of assembly and freedom of religion. Under the umbrella of this system of democracy and freedom comes also one’s right for dissent among many other rights. Any tax paying citizen should have the right to challenge the political system and be able to express his/her political opinion in a peaceful way. Democracy is not only about conformity, or herd mentality, or even about seeing only different shades of the existing system; but it is also about calling for dismantling the existing system and taking the nation’s destiny to a completely different direction if need be. It is therefore the right of every citizen to demand and promote the political system he/she sees as suitable for the country. If the Kulmiye government opens the gate for the creation of many political parties as the party’s leadership promised during the election campaign, I can envisage many parties carrying different ideologies and diverse political orientations coming to the political scene. Other than the plethora of clan-based parties that will choke the party pipeline, one can anticipate the arrival of some ideology- based parties such an Islamic party, a secular party, a liberal party, a social-democratic party and most probably a communist party. With the onset of such unfettered democracy I don’t see why it should still be a taboo to create a unionist party, demanding Somaliland’s reunification with Somalia. In Somaliland today there is a strange and unfounded fear of anyone expressing an opinion for union. Strange because Somaliland has adopted democracy as a political system and democracy is indivisible. You cannot deny citizens to demand their democratic rights to hold and express opposing views; and unfounded because the people of Somaliland have made their choice to abandon the union and reclaim their sovereignty with their own free will. Therefore to punish and criminalize people for calling or publicly advocating for the Somali union is an insult to the intelligence of the people of Somaliland. If anything, it shows insecurity and paranoia about the sustainability of the Somaliland project. The absurdity is that any Somali from anywhere in the world, particularly Somalis from Ethiopia, Djibitouti, Kenya and even Somalia can enter, stay and do business in Somaliland, but Somalilanders who happened to have participated in the politics of Somalia cannot attend even the burial of their own relatives in Hargeisa, Borama, Buroa or any other place in Somaliland. Somalis who hold high political posts in Ethiopia, Kenya and Djibouti are welcomed in Somaliland even though they uphold their respective governments’ official position of rejecting the recognition of Somaliland, but Somalis who hail from Somaliland by birth are treated as criminals and thrown into prison if they step on the soil of their homeland and are not even allowed to visit their ailing mothers. Their only crime is that they oppose the secession of Somaliland. This makes Somaliland democracy and freedom a cruel joke, at least to the families of the victims of such an absurd reality. And finally, here is the beef. Yes, I am a firm believer in Somaliland’s sovereignty and independence and will remain a staunch advocate for its recognition. The people of Somaliland underwent great suffering and yet still found the courage and willpower to invest a priceless amount of energy, time and wisdom in creating a country from scratch and establishing such an admirable model of democracy in Africa. And despite its lack of recognition, I want to see Somaliland determined to uphold its constitutional democracy and hopefully one day be a guiding light for African countries as well as others professing democracy yet denying their citizens basic rights. Obviously, neither I nor any sound human being would like to see Somaliland’s achievements go up in flames for someone’s fantasyland dreams, but I also strongly believe that Somaliland has attained a high degree of political maturity to democratically and peacefully challenge and defeat anyone that confronts its legal rights at the ballot box. Hence, I resent seeing my beautiful Somaliland that stands on unshakeable democratic pillars, behaving like a banana republic by incarcerating and denying its citizens the exercise of their political rights. And that includes allowing the minority unionist individuals to raise their voice and form their own party. We all know that such dissenters do not stand a chance of winning any votes, but giving them a political platform may contribute to deflating their argument and saving their lives from dying in the hellfire of Mogadishu. Bashir Goth Source Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muriidi Posted August 28, 2010 .. how to keep up the somali image of : dad iska-ok ah (nice people),lakin aan isku fillayn oo mucaawano u baahan .. ---- somali-wayn foreign affairs doesn't consider places where somalis abroad live as somali territory ,'cause that would mean diplomatic immunity for half the somalis aborad !?? reference # 1283-56 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Prometheus Posted August 28, 2010 I doubt a Unionist Party message would gain much traction with the Somaliland electorate. What's more worrying is an islamist, gung-ho shariah message finding a receptive audience. As far as this nightmare scenario goes, I think the Turkish model of secularism is more prudent and ought to be adopted. It's one thing to have democracy. It's an entirely different thing to have liberty. Liberal autocracy is certainly preferable to, what Fareed Zakaria and others have called, "illiberal democracies". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted August 28, 2010 People can not be divorced from their identify. Decades of secularism hasn't really worked for Turkey and it hasn't get them any closer to Europe. Apart from AKP, no other government ever held office in two consecutive terms. Governments lost people's confidence or were dismissed by the powerful military generals, the so called guardians of secularism. Under the Islamist AKP, the economy grew exponentially and the prestige of Turkey has risen. They have more balanced foriegn policy engaging with eastern borders while maintaining their relationship with AKP. Under this Islamist government, AKP was admitted an observer in European People's Party. It's under AKP that Turkey was finally allowed to start ascension talks to European Union Membership. Economic and political reforms have heralded Turkey into new era. And like Brazil and others, it's becoming an important player. Silencing Islamic parties or choking the political will lead to the chaos that gripped Algeria in 90s and long battles between Muslim Brotherhood and Egypt. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted August 28, 2010 Article 1: The State of the Republic of Somaliland 1. The country which gained its independence from the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland on 26th June 1960 [7]and was known as the Somaliland Protectorate and which joined Somalia on 1st July 1960 so as to form the Somali Republic and then regained its independence by the Declaration of the Conference of the Somaliland communities held in Burao between 27th April 1991 and 15th May 1991 shall hereby and in accordance with this Constitution become a sovereign and independent country known as “The Republic of Somaliland”. 2. Sovereignty resides in the people who shall exercise it in accordance with the Constitution and other laws. Article 2: The Territory of the Republic of Somaliland 1. The territory of the Republic of Somaliland covers the same area as that of the former Somaliland Protectorate[8] and is located between Latitude 8’ to 11’ 30’ north of the equator and Longitude 42’ 45 to 49’ East; and consists of the land, islands, and territorial waters[9], above and below the surface, the airspace and the continental shelf. 2. The Republic of Somaliland is bordered by the Gulf of Aden to the north; Somalia to the east; the Federal Republic of Ethiopia to the south and the west; and the Republic of Djibouti to the north west. 3. The territory of the nation is inviolable, and shall not be trespassed upon. Article 3: The Capital The capital of the Republic of Somaliland is Hargeisa. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NASSIR Posted August 28, 2010 I don’t see why it should still be a taboo to create a unionist party, demanding Somaliland’s reunification with Somalia. Goth's conversion from a die-hard secessionist into an advocator for Somali unity. Wlc back home. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NASSIR Posted August 28, 2010 to punish and criminalize people for calling or publicly advocating for the Somali union is an insult to the intelligence of the people of Somaliland. If anything, it shows insecurity and paranoia about the sustainability of the Somaliland project. I like this statement. It's quite clear that Goth is upset of the secessionist "Somaliland's" arbitrary arrest of the federal legislators from Borame Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted August 28, 2010 Nasiir but he also says this And finally, here is the beef. Yes, I am a firm believer in Somaliland’s sovereignty and independence and will remain a staunch advocate for its recognition. The people of Somaliland underwent great suffering and yet still found the courage and willpower to invest a priceless amount of energy, time and wisdom in creating a country from scratch and establishing such an admirable model of democracy in Africa. And despite its lack of recognition, I want to see Somaliland determined to uphold its constitutional democracy and hopefully one day be a guiding light for African countries as well as Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacaylbaro Posted August 29, 2010 Unite with who exactly ??? ,, the Anarchists ? Alshabab ? Hizbul Islam ? Sharif ? Ahlu Sunna ? Farole ? Galmudug ? Bal nimanyohow isu taga oo wuxuun iila kaalaya ,,, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NGONGE Posted August 29, 2010 I fully agree with Mr Goth. As soon as the country is recognised, I will be one of the first that supports a unionist party and objects to the arrest of returning TFG MPs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted August 29, 2010 Originally posted by Jacaylbaro: Unite with who exactly ??? ,, the Anarchists ? Alshabab ? Hizbul Islam ? Sharif ? Ahlu Sunna ? Farole ? Galmudug ? Bal nimanyohow isu taga oo wuxuun iila kaalaya ,,, you forget hiiraanstate Attam by the way even if they get to gether the koonfurians They know the answer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NASSIR Posted August 29, 2010 Originally posted by NGONGE: As soon as the country is recognised, I will be one of the first that supports a unionist party and objects to the arrest of returning TFG MPs. You are putting a time restriction on Goth's grievance. He wants the restrictions imposed on the federal legislators from Borame and Bur'o to be lifted now, not later, not until the looming recognition comes into view. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Som@li Posted August 29, 2010 Nonesense Goth was yesterday anti-Somaliland, then Riyale became President, then he became secessionist advocate, now this, a big flib flopper. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar Posted August 29, 2010 Markaa arkaba the way he butchers the good name of Good (like Muuse Rabiile Good aan maqli jiray magac fiican ahaa) ayaaba aqrin karin what qashin he writes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedSea Posted August 29, 2010 Unionist party in Somaliland would be very unpopular. But again would be quite the attraction for the folks in Eastern Sanaag and Sool since they are intoxicated with the term 'unity'. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites