Interview With Mahamud Salah Nur (Fagadhe)

[Jacaylbaro]

 

 

(Versailles, April 8th 2008) - Somaliland is asking for international recognition since 1991 when it restored its independence. Some countries have granted a de facto recognition to Somaliland, for instance Ethiopia which hosts a representative based in Addis Ababa.

 

Delegates have also been sent to the United Kingdom, once the colonial power controlling the protectorate of Somaliland, and to the USA and Italy. Recently France has sent twice diplomats from its embassy in Djibouti to Hargeisa to create cultural links with Somaliland. The latest move materializing a de facto recognition by France has been to authorize the opening of a representative liaison office in the French capital. Les nouvelles d’Addis has met the newly appointed Somaliland representative, Mr Mahamud Salah Nur.

 

Les nouvelles d’Addis. – You arrived recently as a representative of your country in France. What have been your previous official assignments?

 

Mahamud Salah Nur. – I had various positions since Somaliland was created again. A national charter was adopted in 1993 in Borama and government structures came into existence. I became then a member of parliament representing my Sanaag region up to 1997 when late president Egal was elected. Then I joined the government as minister of Foreign Affairs until 2001. When the political parties were created I became one of the founders of Kulmiye party which is the biggest opposition party.

 

Lately I was chosen by president Riyale, taken into consideration my background, even though I belong to an opposition party and I did not leave my party. I was appointed as a representative in France. And the Somaliland government has decided to open an office taken into consideration the position of France as one of the great powers. It is a force to reckon with in Europe and we have decided to introduce the French language into the educational system. Now French is beeing taught in the universities of Somaliland, both in Borama and Hargeisa. I just have arrived to open this office.

 

LNA. – It cannot be an official diplomatic representation because there is no recognition yet. What can be your status?

 

MSN. – Recognition has got two aspects. You have de facto recognition and de jure recognition. What we have now is de facto recognition. France takes into consideration the fact that Somaliland has existed for 17 years and single-handedly was able to survive, has shown unbelievable resilience to survive on its own. To day without boast Somaliland is a force to reckon with in the region.

 

It has got the most democratic institutions, it has got the freest press, it has got a real functioning parliament and lot of things are controlled by the opposition. As you know we have separation of powers. The legislative, the judiciary and the executive. The parliament is controlled by the opposition which has got the majority. So it is something like cohabitation in a strange way on that part of the continent.

 

LNA. – You mentionned recognition de facto. Are you referring to the visits of French diplomats to Hargeisa last October and more recently ? Do you think this is a first step toward full recognition?

 

MSN. – We think that there is a growing awareness worldwide that it is high time, it is overdue that the world has finally to grant Somaliland a legal, diplomatic recognition because the international community has realized that we have met all the conditions for a fully-fledged state, all the requirements as stipulated in the Montevideo Convention on recognition of states in the sense that we have fixed boundaries, permanent population with all the functional institutions of a state and we have legitimacy because we had several elections.

 

We had presidential elections, we had parliamentary elections. By the way we are unique in East Africa in the sense that we have a president who is there by the virtue of the fact that we had national elections with a thin majority of 80 votes. That has happened nowhere in the world. And above all we are an oasis of peace and stability in the region. Thus number of people say this merits the respect of the international community.

 

LNA. – One strange thing is that while European countries like France and Great Britain have started to have relations, even if they are unofficial, inside the African Union they are waiting to do something. In your opinion will the African Union continue to wait and take no decision?

 

MSN. – It is a very interesting question. In fact having officially made an application for membership in the African Union, a high level delegation was sent to Somaliland and finally a draft report was written, a very positive report about the situation which prevails in Somaliland.

 

It strongly recommends that Somaliland should be recognized and admitted into the African Union, that our country cannot be equated to Biafra or to any split state but that Somaliland is unique in the sense that it meets all the conditions for a fully-fledged state. What Somaliland has done is fully in harmony with the charter of the African Union. This is now seriously debated by African countries and we think soon, inch’Allah, they will reach a positive decision.

 

LNA. – Beeing now in France do you plan to meet some personalities to inform them, in the ministry of Foreign Affairs for instance ?

 

MSN. – The Foreign Ministry has already agreed in February that Somaliland should be given the right to open an office to represent our country. Not fully diplomatic but a sort of ex officio.

 

LNA. – Like the Palestinian representation?

 

MSN. – Something along that line. You call it officieux. The decision of recognition will be taken by France and by the European countries. France cannot take this decision alone but it will have to consult other European governments. France will be chairman of the European Union by the first of July.We think by then the Europeans will seriously debate the issue of the recognition of Somaliland and that depends on how much efforts we put in to convince and sell our gopel to Europeans.

 

LNA. – You have a lot of work ahead. Welcome to this country. We shall certainly meet again.

 

MSN. – Thank you.

 

 

BY ROBERT WIREN

LES NOUVELLES D’ADDIS

[Suldaanka]

M. Salah Nur is one of the true Somaliland statesmen still around. Glad to see that he is very healthy and still in public service.

[Sophist]

Once a great man reduced to nothingness; time can be unpleasant teacher.

[Abwaan]

lol...Suldaanka...what would he be when he denounces Somaliland and campaigns for Somaliweyn, like Jaamac Yare...Malaha waxaad ugu yeeri doontaan Siyaad Barre ayuu u shaqayn jirey oo askartiisii ayuu ka mid ahaa or ....?

 

 

Bye the way Mr Fagadhe....or Fagadhe must be about 90 years old now...I think I last was him in Mogadishu in March 91 and never thought that he would join the Northern Movement.

[Sophist]

Abwaan Ramdan Kariim,

 

Are you back in London?

[Abwaan]

Ramadan Kariim bro...no I am not and looks like I wont be in the near future insha Allah and if I do I will call you. Are you planning to come to us at all?

[Sophist]

Not in the near future; heading east. The plan is to move to Dubai in Jan 09.

[Abdulladiif Al-Fiqih]

Sxb, lets know if you strike gold. I hear that is the place to be maalmahan.

[Kelya_Xariif]

I think i know his twin brother:)

[Suldaanka]

Originally posted by Abwaan:

lol...Suldaanka...what would he be when he denounces Somaliland and campaigns for Somaliweyn, like Jaamac Yare...Malaha waxaad ugu yeeri doontaan Siyaad Barre ayuu u shaqayn jirey oo askartiisii ayuu ka mid ahaa or ....?

General Jama Mohamed Ghalib is surely like no other psuedo-Somaliweyn supporter. Unlike his other cousin, Buubaa, this is man who believes in Somaliweyn and not because of cheap politics but by conviction based on belief. And although our positions might be polars apart, I still respect Gen Ghalib for that particularly his current political affiliation as deputy chairman of the Somali Re-libaration Movement in Asmera.

 

Coming back to your hypothetical question on M. S. Nur. Lets just say that, he too has been a consistent man right from the word "go". I have seen interviews of the man with foreign TV crews some dating back to early 1990s, and I have no doubts Salah Nur is not like "sidii Adoontii hadhuudhka ridiqday ridiqday halkii ugu danbaysay ka kacday..." if you knwo what I mean.

[RedSea]

^

 

Gen. jama 'yare' and hurre buubaa are indeed in no way comparable. One is a traitor and the other is a man of honor.