Garowe Online Editorial: Islam Unseparable from Politics !

[Abu-Salman]

Editorial

 

Islam cannot be separated from the politics of Somalia

27 Apr 27, 2008 - 4:35:06 PM

 

 

 

SUNDAY EDITORIAL | While extremist groups of all forms must be shunned, sensible groups with strong Islamic foundations and values must be welcomed.

 

Much of today's world is transfixed on the ideology of political Islam, as if this is a new phenomenon and not a feat with a centuries-old track record of just governance, tolerance, human and economic development. The one-sided news and views spewed across Western media, and incorporated into the media outlets of cultures subservient to Western interests and hegemony, wrongly portray Islam and the Muslims as a people intent on overthrowing every government on earth and forcefully installing militant regimes. Somalia is a classic example; in December 2006, the U.S. government backed Ethiopia's ill-thought military invasion that aimed to topple Mogadishu's rulers: the Islamic Courts Union.

 

No diplomat in Washington, D.C., or London, Paris or Addis Ababa, seemed to care that Somalia's first-ever Islamist rulers succeeded in a few months where tens of thousands of Ethiopian troops and their Somali government allies continue to fail to date: secure Mogadishu! While the Islamists' methodology remains a topic of heated debate, they were nonetheless credited for bringing stability to one of the world's most unstable regions. Mogadishu has a history of gangsterdom, where the weak are cheaper than soap and the strong use bullets as pillows. To put it in perspective: the Islamic Courts' ragtag militia showed a new generation of Somalis that peace is a possibility, and reminded older Somalis that Somalia is not a lost cause.

 

 

Of course, the Islamist leaders' mistakes were many. After securing Mogadishu, they ran around southern and central Somalia atop armored jeeps, ordering everyone including the country's UN-endorsed Transitional Federal Government to surrender or risk being overrun. To put it mildly, the Islamic Courts leadership lacked the universal vision of viewing the globe's geopolitical landscape outside the Somali context. Instead of focusing on restoring the dignity of Mogadishu, the Islamist leadership was hijacked by hardliners intent on overthrowing warlord-turned-President Abdullahi Yusuf and decapitating his transitional government before it ever set foot in the Somali capital. Well, Mr. Yusuf invited his Ethiopian army friends and the rest is history.

 

Could the situation have taken a different route? Could the Islamist leadership show the governments of Ethiopia and the West that they were not, in fact, a part of an international agenda with questionable means and motives? Further, could the Islamic Courts have done a better job convincing the Somali public that they were not a bunch of power-hungry clerics? It was always an open secret that the Islamists kept among their top elite some of the most ruthless warlords ever known in Somalia.

 

Despite their shortcomings, the Islamic Courts made their mark as contemporary Africa's most successful Islamist movement. However, even more successful, albeit less-known, Islamist movements have operated in Somalia for decades, with their activities burgeoning in the post-1991 era. Islamists play pivotal roles in the country's economic and educational sectors, help resolve societal issues and promote good morals. Last week, for example, Islamic clerics in the country's northern enclave of Puntland succeeded where the regional authority failed miserably: stopping the minting of false Somali Shillings, an illegal practice that has adversely affected the local economy and sparked riots in Puntland towns.

 

Almost overnight, the exchange rate for $100 U.S. dollars in Puntland went from 3,200,000 Shillings to 2,500,000 Shillings! Locals welcomed the Islamic clerics and their selfless efforts in convincing the profiteers of the illegal operation to stop their venture, because it was an immoral practice that led to peoples' misery.

 

Although the group of clerics did not have any "official" political role, their effort nonetheless was successful beyond measure. Further, the clerics' unofficial effort underscored Somalia's Muslim society and its reliance on Islam as the only savior from tyranny and failure.

 

While extremist groups of all forms must be shunned, sensible groups with strong Islamic foundations and values must be welcomed into Somalia's political arena, as both a matter of practicality and a venue to marginalize extremists hiding behind a cloak of Islam. It is neither right nor reasonable to limit a Muslim country's politics to a few warlords who have sold their souls long ago and who have shown Somalia that their true intention is to hold on to the reigns of power until the last Somali dies of thirst.

 

 

Garowe Online Editorial, editorial@garoweonline.com

[Che -Guevara]

Here comes Duke and Somalipride saying "Garowe Online is run by the sons of a bitter and loser ex-Puntland minister".

[Baashi]

Don't you miss the tastiest nugget in the dish.

Of course, the Islamist leaders' mistakes were many. After securing Mogadishu, they ran around southern and central Somalia atop armored jeeps, ordering everyone including the country's UN-endorsed Transitional Federal Government to surrender or risk being overrun. To put it mildly, the Islamic Courts leadership lacked the universal vision of viewing the globe's geopolitical landscape outside the Somali context. Instead of focusing on restoring the dignity of Mogadishu, the Islamist leadership was hijacked by hardliners intent on overthrowing warlord-turned-President Abdullahi Yusuf and decapitating his transitional government before it ever set foot in the Somali capital. Well, Mr. Yusuf invited his Ethiopian army friends and the rest is history.

 

Could the situation have taken a different route? Could the Islamist leadership show the governments of Ethiopia and the West that they were not, in fact, a part of an international agenda with questionable means and motives? Further, could the Islamic Courts have done a better job convincing the Somali public that they were not a bunch of power-hungry clerics? It was always an open secret that the Islamists kept among their top elite some of the most ruthless warlords ever known in Somalia.

Ain't that the truth. Kudos to GO for being objective on such radioactive issue. Right on the money!

[Fabregas]

 

Could the situation have taken a different route? Could the Islamist leadership show the governments of Ethiopia and the West that they were not, in fact..............

 

 

As much chance as Saddam Hussein had convincing the yanks that HE never had weapons of mass destruction! The thing is that when empires go to war with little men, its either surrender or war. Of course, the experts, philosophers and intellectuals will tell that is not the case and the world would have been blessed with peace.... if only the world had listened to their ideas before events occur! A classic example of that is the quote above!

[Kashafa]

Of course, the Islamist leaders' mistakes were many

And what human being that ever lived didn't make mistakes ? What organism ever created did not have flaws ? Your saintly grandfather ? He's flawed. Your revered angelic grandmother ? She's flawed. The Companions of the Prophet ? They killed each other only years after the Prophet's death. You got problems with a ex-Drug Baron Indhacadde ? Get a load of this: How would you like being ruled by a man who murdered his own daughter with his own hands. How so ? He buried her alive. And while he was digging a grave for his daughter, she was removing the dirt and soil from his beard, not knowing that she was about to be doomed to be buried alive by the man who brought her into this world. It doesn't get any more criminal than murdering babies, let alone your own, but this dude got it done.

 

Who is this man ? None other than the 2nd Caliph Umar bin Khattab, one of the 10 men promised Paradise while they were alive, the stalwart lion the budding Muslim community relied on as it navigated the treacherous early days of Islam. That's who.

 

Darsinka far waa weyn maa ku sharaxaa ? Need I go on ? Do I gotta spell it out for the thick & dense crowd ? But even this won't shut up the "Indhacadde this, Indhacadde that" crowd because the issue isn't Indhacadde. Not even remotely. Ciyaal maa meesha joogo. The issue is "Anaga vs Ayaga". The issue is "My Adeer deserves to rule" The issue is "Anything and Everything, including Treason, Genocide is acceptable, for the sake of the My Tol".

 

So this constant litany(due to lack of any other substance) of "they made mistakes, they're flawed, ergo they are no better than the TFG' mantra is a classical non sequitur used by the feeble-minded to buttress the shaky grounds of their argument. The fact of the matter is, The Islamic Courts of Somalia have been and continue to be the only viable group with the moral authority and integrity to claim the mandate of Governance. They're not asking for it. They're taking it. They were tested during their 6 month reign and they passed, on every metric of governance, with flying colours. Something documented and lauded by friend and foe(the honest ones) in the international media. Something only a jaaxid, a liar, would attempt to deny.

 

Did they make tactical and strategical mistakes ? Yeah, sure. So did your parents. Ask them for their Compilation of Greatest Flaws and Mistakes in My Lifetime, Volume I, if you don't believe me. Marka come up with something more weighty than 'they made mistakes' or 'they have shady characters'. It's pathetic and insults the intelligence of the readers. Let it be noted that it is also a classical case of Is-Qancis, providing the 'neutrals' with a way to massage their ailing consciences and helps them stay afloat in their moral quagmire.

 

Instead of focusing on restoring the dignity of Mogadishu, the Islamist leadership was hijacked by hardliners intent on overthrowing warlord-turned-President Abdullahi Yusuf and decapitating his transitional government before it ever set foot in the Somali capital

-The ICU not only restored dignity to Mogadisho, but to all of Somalia. The 'caste' system was destroyed. You were judged by the merit of your words and deeds, not your (fairytale)lineage. Narcotics & khat, the bane of the Somali family, was banned. Civic pride and cleanliness was emphasized with the people being paid to clean their neighborhoods and the streets. The local Courts setup by the ICU provided swift justice to the weak and oppressed. You didn't have to wait endlessly for a trial date and become bankrupt by the farcical legal industry in the West. No lawyers, no highfalutin judges, no appeals and counter-appeals, no 50 year wait for justice. The Airport and Seaport were reopened, piracy eradicated, the infamous road bandits who preyed on hapless travelers annihilated, the kibraani clan leaders humiliated and chased away, the average Somali-Muslim inspired, uplifted, and empowered, a new era dawned in Somali history: The Age of Islamic Governance.

 

Unlike the regionally-oriented Garowe Online, their mandate and their mission was a national one. From Zaylac to Raas Kaambooni. From Jigjiga to Barqaal. Thanks for the editiorial, Garowe, but the ICU won't be needing lectures on dignity from you.

 

-The TFG were told in the Khartoum meetings that they would be allowed to govern with two conditions: a) Sharia will be the law of the land. b) Ethiopian 'advisers' have to leave. They refused. And kept hauling in military hardware and Eto troops to Baidoba while they kept on calling for 'more talks'. Yaala siraa: They were girding for an invasion of Mogadisho.

 

After securing Mogadishu, they ran around southern and central Somalia atop armored jeeps, ordering everyone including the country's UN-endorsed Transitional Federal Government to surrender or risk being overrun

lol@armoured jeeps. Did they also have armored tanks and MiG jets ? Lies beget lies beget delusions. There's a difference between being simply inaccurate and deliberately setting out to misinform.

 

With the Ethiopians pouring across the borders by the thousands, The ICU ordered the Ethiopians to leave Somali soil....or else(that "or else" was a principally correct but a strategical mistake). They moved against Kismayo to secure the southern flanks and prevent it from being used as another front(brilliant tactical move). Kismayo fell without a single shot being fired and so did the vast majority of cities under their control. A lil something called native Somali-diplomacy: sending emissaries to ensure a peaceful transition. When they did meet with havoc-causing clan militia like Barre Hiraale, dagaha aa laga tumay, sending them fleeing behind Etho tanks.

 

 

To the Garowe Online editorial board,

 

Doesn't matter where you fall along the political spectrum, have some intellectual honesty. Do not lie, fabricate, embellish, or distort what happened to push a point. Credibility, once lost, is impossible to regain. Your editorial started off accurate but fell into the Is-Qancis swamp half-way through.

 

Edit: Some fool is gonna stretch the Umar bin Khattab analogy to an illogical extreme and accuse me of insulting the great Companion, so I might as well dhig the cashar in far waa weyn.

 

Umar killed his daughter during his Jaahiliya days, and killing baby girls was a common practice at the time. Having committed one of the most gruesome crimes possible didn't prevent him from becoming Muslim, nor was it a blot on his character, as he was an idol-worshiping heathen at the time. He then went on to be one of the closest companions of the Prophet and a hero of Islam, renowned for his piety, integrity, courage, frugality(in his personal life).

 

The moral being: What actions(good or bad) one did once upon a time, has no bearing or relevance if one has changed. Example: Yaasir Carafat may have started out as freedom-fighter, but him, his wife, and his PLO leadership grew rich out of stealing the billions of dollars of foreign aid intended for the Palestinian people. And that's how history will remember him. Conversely, Indhacade, the favorite red herring of TFG'ers, may have started out as a Drug-Lord, but he has changed his ways and threw his considerable support to the ICU, then fighting a bitter battle against the CIA-backed Terror Alliance. As to his motivations and intentions, that's between him and his Lord. To those who he has become a (transparent)excuse not to support the ICU, I say, find another red herring, another Is-Qancis reason, this one is dead in the water.

[Baashi]

^Baba Indha-Cadde is no Cumar Bin Khatab and certainly he is no Arafat. He is the man behind the Dhoobleey massacre. Innocent blood was spilled in a bid to prolong the JV Alliance's hold of Kismayo Port. Junior partner Col. Barre Hiiraale and his allied clans from Galgaduud were campaigning against Morgan when Indha Cadde's militia torched the village, in military speaking, brilliant back end tactical move; cutting off all escape routes for defeated clan militia. An event recorded by journalists in both pictures and written words.

 

Make no mistake you warlord lover, justice will be served and no matter how many prayers he performs dulmi committed against other innocent Muslims for the sole reason of promoting clan interest is an offence punishable by death unless victims waive the punishment. The irony is this character was a full member of court militia (not united back then). It is not like he is anew addition to the court network! He is a member of UIC doesn't wash it baba.

 

You...huhmmmmm your high sounding cantrabaqash is touching my nerve wallahi. I mean what you know....What a lame whiner. War is what you wanted and war is what you exactly got from the other side. Spare the crocodile tears you warmonger! Don’t you worry about setting the record straight!

 

We were all here watching that tragedy from a comfortable distance looking in all worried; for we knew macawis and flip-flop wearing them young boys were no match for standing national army with air force supported and supplemented by superior American military technology.

 

You worthless screamer don’t get me started. Folks were dying for slightest injury a mere scraping! No plan B, no logistics, no medicine, no water, all lame ducks running around semi desert landscape exposed to the enemy and ready for the taking!!! Boqol aan u turi hayn kan beegsadaa ma geesaa!, I used to say. It was suicidal blunder pure and simple. Unnecessary, impatient, uninitiated...there are many descriptions one could assign what transpired back then.

 

When they saved Benadir from certain destruction and vacated the city for the approaching enemy the rational was that they did so to not endanger the safety of the civilians. We all breathed a sigh of relieve! Considerate, Kind, We praised them for their farsighted understanding for we knew that the enemy and Somali factions who called for their assistance would not distinguish between combatants and non-combatants so long the fight is in the midst of heavily populated urban area like Benadir. Todays rational contradicts the rational used back then. Today the civilians’ blood is fair game. And all that blood is spilled in the name of Almighty Allah. No kidding!

 

We all recall when you spectacularly stormed in a huff -- from the cushy sofa in front of the flat and widescreen LCD TV to your likes’ “command and control post” -- comp keyboard! where kelligii Muslims call for ‘Muslim on Muslim’ killing spree.

 

You still keep puffing and huffing unwilling to stick your skinny neck out and put it on the line all the while you spare no effort to send others, unprepared and unequipped for combat, to their certain death. You ******** have the audacity to turn around and mourn them in the cyber jungle and vow for a revenge only to swing the fridge open for a nice and cold drink and watch playoffs. Dang!

 

The other night I was watching the life of pack of lions on national Geography! Old and senile alpha male loses his totemic position in the clan when emerging alpha males contest for leadership position. Wounded and ousted, he started leading a solitary life only to fall pray for hyenas. Lost protection from his kind, he tries to fend off for himself. However every time he sets foot in his former territory, the alpha males would chase him off. The narrator explains that jungle maxim where survival for struggle supercedes any feelings for blood relatives compels lions to turn on each other. Although the hyenas do the final act that finished off the king, basically old lion’s downfall is caused by his own.

 

Same is true in this Somali drama. The fight hasn’t started yesterday. The contest between Somalis is not about Islam. It is all about that spot on the top of totemic pole. Ethiopia is having a field day, no doubt. It will keep having a field day in the near future. This is a science. It is simple. Ethiopia has territory to defend and masses to rule. Its rival and historical foe in the region is going through tough times to say the least. The contesting factions come knocking Melez’s door uninvited looking for material and political support. Reason being the real fight is in Somalia and between Somalis. So the losing factions seek reinforcement elsewhere in order to stay active in the power paly.

 

Put the screaming baby to rest and you have solved part of the problem. How? One faction has to win and win big. Decisive and complete win that is. Or short of that you gotta reconcile diverging interests contesting for supremacy. I don’t care how and under what terms. Anything else is continuation of unwinnable and tragic conflict. Awoowe waxa intaa u dhaxeeyaa waa nac naciyo hadal tiro.

 

Wiilakan leh kaligay baa Muslim ah oo Soomaali asal ah hadaad i weydiiseen waa wiil kor inta u kaleetiyay shafka isagga kaadshay. Waxa ugu wacan cantrabaqashka waa jalaatada uu ka dhargey. Haduu garanayo waxa dagaal yahay iyo xanuunka uu leeyahay waxa uu oran lahaa war taloow colka jooja oo kaalya dirrinta aanu wada kalaamnee.

 

Allow ma iri.

[Baashi]

Haha this Kelligii Muslim dude is really something. I just realized that he is using Jahilyah era when Cumar was a pagan long before he accepted Islam to infer that ignorance Omar suffered back then is comprable to Wide-Eyed's -- who were sporting a beard and Islamic garb and calling himself the head of Marka based clan court -- folly in murdering innocent Muslim Somalis!!!

[Jacpher]

^ Ain't little knowledge something.

 

This kid comes up with the most obnoxious parallelism I've ever heard. Not too long ago, he echoed the names of Ulul Azm prophets and Khalid Bin Waleed in defence of Al-Shabaab's characters. Now he's suggesting like Omr bin Khatab, Indhacade has sinned and repented and could lead the Muslims as the new Ameer of the horn. Not only this analogy is flawed, it's doesn't stand in the book of Islam. Islam wipes out whatever one does prior to Shahada. The kid needs to prove Indhacade was indeed Non-Muslim when he was butchering Southern Somalia. Maybe then your analogy would have a chance. I know I'm in for some weird analogy again.

[Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar]

Baashi maxaa ku helay, widaayoow? Waa qiirootay, ee easy on it, baliis. We came here to debate, especially rationally. Qofba aragtidiisa ayuu dhiibanaa.

 

Teeda kale you are stuck in a what-could-have-been theory. Wixii hore waa dhaceen, waa tageen, waa socdeen, waa shubeen, waa dareereen, sooma noqonayaan, kun jeer si gees ha loogu dhahee, loogu soo celceliyee. Waa baxeen wixii hore. Waxee Maxkamadaha sameyeen, or you wanted them to do, waa laga soo wareegsaday now. Xaalka is now now. Hadda, haddadaan.

 

Now, what now?

 

Do you think whatever political grievances you've had against Maxkamadaha justify what Xabashada are doing in Xamar in particular and in Soomaaliya in overall? Do their political shortcomings, miscalculations justify in any way what is happening in Xamar now?

 

This is coming from qof not exactly Maxkamadaha amaani jiray markee soo shaacbaxeen, oo isku siyaasadna ama aragti ahaan jireen. Taas waa laga tagay now, hadda ayee tahay xaalka, oo Soomaalinimo jiritaankeeda qarka u saaran inay burburto. This is bigger than Maxkamadaha, dhalinta Shabaab, dowlad ku sheegaan -- what is at the table is the very exitence of our Soomaali way of life, our jiritaan, our xoriyad iyo gobonimo.

 

Dig that.

[Fabregas]

Going back to the topic: can Baashi or garowe online for that matter explain:

 

1. How the ICU could have avoided a full scale war with the Ethiopians and their neo-con backers? And how they could have "convinced" the that their Cimamads meant peace?

 

2. How simply limiting themselves to Muqdisho could have indeed been a good military and political move?

 

 

Of course, this is all in the past, but it's important that moral philosophers bring forth their evidence and fully explain to the Ummah what paths( for the greater good) could have been taken, rather the merely resorting to the mantra of, " this and this would have happened( if only they took my advice).

[winnie]

geez, take this to politics please.

as interesting as this topic is (and it is), its messing up the vibe in the general forums.

things are supposed to be light here.

with this thread, plus the other one about abdullahi yusuf, and the "what region are you from" (which sparked an unforeseen and unattached mini-feud), things are getting heavy... politically heavy.

lets please move this to POLITICS please.

[Laba-X]

The amount of Cantrabaqash the man spews is unbelievable - yet he accuses other of it.

 

Keep defending your inefficient kinsmen with your pitiable remarks Baashi, but trust me once those lanky and scrawny Youths raise dust from the stampede of their slippers, the likes of you, General Morgan and The Liverless one would be given a run for their money.

 

Until then...iska duryan!

[N.O.R.F]

Originally posted by Baashi:

Don't you miss the tastiest nugget in the dish.

quote:

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Of course, the Islamist leaders' mistakes were many. After securing Mogadishu, they ran around southern and central Somalia atop armored jeeps, ordering everyone including the country's UN-endorsed Transitional Federal Government to surrender or risk being overrun. To put it mildly, the Islamic Courts leadership lacked the universal vision of viewing the globe's geopolitical landscape outside the Somali context. Instead of focusing on restoring the dignity of Mogadishu, the Islamist leadership was hijacked by hardliners intent on overthrowing warlord-turned-President Abdullahi Yusuf and decapitating his transitional government before it ever set foot in the Somali capital. Well, Mr. Yusuf invited his Ethiopian army friends and the rest is history.

 

Could the situation have taken a different route? Could the Islamist leadership show the governments of Ethiopia and the West that they were not, in fact, a part of an international agenda with questionable means and motives? Further, could the Islamic Courts have done a better job convincing the Somali public that they were not a bunch of power-hungry clerics? It was always an open secret that the Islamists kept among their top elite some of the most ruthless warlords ever known in Somalia.

Ain't that the truth. Kudos to GO for being objective on such radioactive issue. Right on the money!

Are you seriously in agreement with those two paragraphs? They are the only two I don't agree with.

[Baashi]

I do, and wholeheartedly at that, ya Northern. The editorial is inline with what I have been saying all along.

 

MMA, you don't make sense buddy. You are too naive and sometimes I question your IQ. No pun intended pal. I don't have any grievances against courts. Never crossed paths with any of them! They are news makers and as such subject for discussion, criticism, analysis and what have you.

 

The thing is I just happened to root for their stated objectives. Post-conflict Somalia governed by Sharia law is their declared goal! Beautiful, I’m on board. There are many roads that lead you to Rome. Rome is the destination. Which road will take you there quickly and with less hardship is a question worth exploring. Taking on the world surely is a no-go road. Remember that.

 

What I don't endorse is their tactics. Waryee nimanku maaha macsuumiin. They err and in the war case they made fatal tactical mistakes. Calling that on them shouldn't be equated well anything other than what it is.

 

Don't get me wrong sxb -- and I hope you are good sport for this -- when I say you are naive or your reasoning apptitude is not serving you well on SOL board. How on the blue earth could you ask, with straight face, such a dumb question like the one you've posed up there!!!!!

 

A) I don't have grievances against courts. B) I don't justify, never have, what Tigre merceneries are doing in Benadir and other hot spots. I said that umpteen times; it is a tragedy -- unjustifiable, inexcusable, and what not. Chew that and up your game a bit pal.

 

Perhaps what you couldn't decipher, weighty construction that might demand some skill in dissection art, is what happened in Somalia is partly a self-inflicted dissaster, a one of monumental proportion exploited and compounded by interests groups be it regional powers or international actors. Mafhuum? No? Don't wanna repeat myself like a broken record but I guess it will suffice to say that the power play inside Somalia has a far reaching implication of which foreign inteference is one manifestation out of many. Enough lecturing!

 

Camel boy, your nick reminded me a promise I made in politic section. I've been meaning to post a satirical writeup on Camel Complex. We’ll do in one of these days, Allah willing.

 

You have asked good questions. Same goes with Northerner comments. The trouble with that is your crew won't be able to sit back and hold their breath.

 

First off there is school of thought that values "what ifs" as analytical tool that could shed some light on the historical events under microscope. I have a book in my shelf on the subject. One thing you get out of such books is how important it is to consider all prespectives, players, strategies employed, and tactics adopted. In corporate world, particularly financial and engineering industry, it is called Lessons Learned. You would be surprised the amount of resourse allocated to such excersise. Not to mention its other variety -- reverse exercise -- Six Sigma.

 

How could they have avoided a full scale war with Tigre is the question. Well I don't think they could have avoided Ethiopian interference altogether but they could have effectively pulled the pretext rug under them had they A) not make implicit war declaration (whuch they did) by saying that they would go all the way to Addis and B) by making deal with then divided house that TFG was.

 

This reminds me one of Aesop fables -- Wolf and Lamb. The moral of that fable is that the tyrant will always find a pretext for his tyranny. I am very mindful of this tidbit buddy.

 

Limiting themselves to Benadir and staying quiet (all the while making clear they are open for negotiation) would have exacerbated the division in the TFG house and made extremely difficult for Uncle Sam to get on the same page with Tigres.

 

Still all is not lost. Today Asmara Group can play ball by forcing a wedge between IC and TFG. Agree, in principle, the negotiation path and demand a timetable for Tigre withdrawal after the fact.

[Che -Guevara]

O' the things that pass for criticisms these days, same regurgitated not mention dullish mantric babbling. It is extremely nauseating and equally offensive to the mind but that's reality of bitter men. Let's conflate all dissenting voices and forget those stuck in yesteryears. It is pointless to confute their arguments. Let them capitulate to tyranny. I get the feeling they will be in good company anyway.

 

LooooooooooooL@LX