SamiGyrl Posted November 20, 2002 Personally, like I said I worry about palestinians. Am always writing letters to Congress, however, I am getting to the point where am looking out for my own people (Somalilanders) writing papers and working with them. Yes not all arabs are evil, and not all of the are racist, however, when the tough gets going,the arabs have never helped us out, not to mention other non arab countries. If they cant even help their own people in Palestine, what makes you think we can help them? The Jews did their homework, and the arabs are sitting there looking dumb, so hey if they cant help themselves, leave it to Allah. I say we worry about our people respectivly, and get past trivial matters that dont concern us. I am half yemeni, and I look arab, but as soon as they see me with my blk Somali father in the streets of San'aa you get looks, and I remember in school people not even considering me equal to them, and this was going on in Muqdisho too. So work with those that work with you. Screw them mofos that can get their **** together. -SamiGyrl FaqashXterminator Well I am an 10:00 am Economics class take care. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SamiGyrl Posted November 20, 2002 Personally, like I said I worry about palestinians. Am always writing letters to Congress, however, I am getting to the point where am looking out for my own people (Somalilanders) writing papers and working with them. Yes not all arabs are evil, and not all of the are racist, however, when the tough gets going,the arabs have never helped us out, not to mention other non arab countries. If they cant even help their own people in Palestine, what makes you think we can help them? The Jews did their homework, and the arabs are sitting there looking dumb, so hey if they cant help themselves, leave it to Allah. I say we worry about our people respectivly, and get past trivial matters that dont concern us. I am half yemeni, and I look arab, but as soon as they see me with my blk Somali father in the streets of San'aa you get looks, and I remember in school people not even considering me equal to them, and this was going on in Muqdisho too. So work with those that work with you. Screw them mofos that can get their **** together. -SamiGyrl FaqashXterminator Well I am an 10:00 am Economics class take care. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Changed Posted November 20, 2002 abaayo since i am not from somaliland please enlighten me with what is going on in somaliland.u mention the same problem earlier in the forum and i think u didn't read the question i asked. any wayz walaahi i would like to know so i can give an opinion...congrees dear i got tired of cuz they jung mail our letters.... this was going on in Muqdisho too what is going in mogadisho.......walaahi u lost me on this problem...i understand that arabs dont like blacks what is the other problem.......have fun in economic ....i got english in an hour and i cant study in my room so ama go now and hit the library for a research paper please respond cuz i am doing arugmentative essay on this topic and i need all the input i can get ...adios Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nazra Posted November 21, 2002 Unbeleivable iam amazed,asalaamu calaykum would be appopriate here.... :eek: Samgirl it seems you are so passionate about this tribilism issue so pleaze do us all a favour take ppl like along to great big journey across town to your nearest MAQAAYAD and ravish eachother okay. You are the biggest hypocrite i have come across thats puking uff... Did you at all read the agreement here NO QABIILS...I guess you havent..... If i was to make a wish i would vanquish all idoits like you of the face of this earth... Try and keep to the topic it would much be appreciated .... Back to the decent ppl here... Somaliman yes these ppl jews have not suffer enough more suffering is around the corner as allah has said.... Yes they use their intelligence to make money gain power but this all a marige in the end greed takes over them like always nothing knew... So no one enveys them give me one reason other than wealth that they should be envied for?? Can't seem to gather any.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ibn Sina a.k.a Avicenna Posted November 21, 2002 Sorry for getting late into the discussion. Somaliman has a point, a idealogical point. Just Appreciate the effort the Jews are putting to destroy Islam. As a man, i feel jealous of their unity, wealth and intelegence but as the same time they did a good job trying to accomplish that. Thumbs Up for them. The question comes to what are Muslims doing to stop them,"Simply Nothing". As much as i hate them, i think they are doing pretty good job to farther their interests. Somaliman, man you are very wrong when you say Jews and Muslims are the same. Judism is never close to Islam. Never say that bro. No prophet fellowed Judism and their so called Book, is just not God's Words. The Quran is the TRUE DEVINE words of ALLAH. I hate muslims who side with the Jews. It is just disrespectfull. And Please make sure you seek the facts before you write something like that. Islam is the only true religion. Sure jews believe in Moses, but they only have the name, not his true teachings. I think i have said enough..... kc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somali-man Posted November 22, 2002 Bro KC plss read surat "al-isra" of the Glorious Quran. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SamiGyrl Posted November 22, 2002 Ok for all of you calling me a qabiilist name once where I mentioned a Qabiil!!!!!!! All I said was I was looking out for my people Somalilanders, now if you dont know already there are people of many different tribes in Somaliland ok. So if you want to make up me being a qabilist then go ahead, but dont put words in my mouth. If I said Somaliland then its about the country not just a tribe, goes to show just how ignorant you are about Somaliland and its people. With regards to Muqdisho I used to live there for awhile, and even the normal somali people didnt like me, because I looked too arab, and the arabs didnt like me because of my blood line being blk. So there are a s s h o l e s on either side. Sister if you want unbiased news about Somaliland go to bbc.com, and major news areas, if you want to know about SOmaliland through its people, then go to SomalilandNet.com, also SomalilandForum.com is a good website, to see exactly what is going on, with regards to projects, go to their links also. Ok well like i said, screw the arabs!!! lol I cant stand to see somali people lick some back ward arabs *** . -SamiGyrl AfmeenShaar Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Changed Posted November 22, 2002 naaa firri i asked for u to explain what da hell is wrong in somaliland and i am still shocked in why u keep separating somalia from somaliland..there are some differences may be but as far as i know somaliland is more peacfull than somalia.....and dem i asked u to explain what da problem was, some else called u tribist .......next time u read the forum please read the names carefully.....what does somaliland have to do with this topic i was talking about the jew, the iraqis and the americans........i really think u are confused With regards to Muqdisho I used to live there for awhile, and even the normal somali people didnt like me, because I looked too arab, and the arabs didnt like me because of my blood line being blk. So there are a s s h o l e s on either side. we have some people called barawani in hamar and some called reer xamar they are ligh skinned too and i have never heard of them going trough the hasle u mentioned .... any wayz sis take a chill pill going back to the peeps that are answering my question. somali man i am still confused on how u keep bringing ayats about how the jew are the chosen one bor they were the chosed one not anynore........as far as their unity is concerned did y'll read the quran they will be untited and strong until prophet cissa (c.s) comes back.....he is the one that is going to destroy it for them...kcabuji u hated them but u loved their unity wait and see bro there will be time when we will be the winner......... fi amanallah Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SamiGyrl Posted November 23, 2002 "naaa firri i asked for u to explain what da hell is wrong in somaliland and i am still shocked in why u keep separating somalia from somaliland..there are some differences may be but as far as i know somaliland is more peacfull than somalia.....and dem i asked u to explain what da problem was, some else called u tribist .......next time u read the forum please read the names carefully.....what does somaliland have to do with this topic i was talking about the jew, the iraqis and the americans........i really think u are confused" First of all there is nothing wrong in Somaliland at this time. Secondly, there is no problem, with regards to differences b/w the two peoples, I think you can read Somali history to see the difference there walalo, but what really seperates the two is, ones reverance for human life, and general liberty. If you look at Somalia what do you see, many waring factions, why they cant come to a common peace, why? Because they dont have respect for the other tribes. In Somaliland its different everyones views are taken into consideration and the majority wins the vote, along side a compromise with the minaorities. When I braught up Somaliland, I was saying that each Somali should worry about his own people, in my case Somalilanders, Can you understand it now, since I am a citizen of Somaliland and my people are Somalilanders thats who I identify with, so when I say my people I talk about them. People in Somalia can refer to Somalians or Somalis residents of Somalia proper as their people. Ok All I was saying is that each Somali should worry about his own, now if the Arabs had stuck their necks out for Somalis in general, I can see why I would want to help them, but since they didnt, all I can do is offer good words and what little help I can offer. With regards to my situation in Moqdisho as a child, it really happened although I cant imagine why it did, maybe it was that at that time I didnt speak Somali? Who knows but I know what happened, so dont say that Somalis in Somalia couldnt have done it, if they can kill their own why should they worry about hte feelings of a 6 year old girl, that happens to have an Arab mother? I hope that cleared up what you wanted to know about if you have any more questons feel free to ask. -SamiGyrl P.S. if you also want more information about Somaliland there is an article that David Shinn wrote about Somaliland, its history and whats going on there etc... its on SomalilandForum.com. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lefty Posted November 23, 2002 SamiGyrl Listen little girl! you're speeding higher than your speed limit. You don't seem to have deeply knowledge about the difference between Somali regions...in your case the difference between British Somaliland and Italian Somaliland and so on and so far..I advise to hold your little pony and be more cautious before you run into no man's land! and Next time Keep your ungoing Promoting/advertisiment where it belongs! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Changed Posted November 23, 2002 i am just disappointed at with samigirl u seem to seprarting our little country into pieces ........somalilanders my people.......my gosh girl get over it ......i know the little dofference and that somaliland want to become its own state but as far as i am concerned i dont give a shiit........ and i dont think u should to......me and u dont have to right to debate about it.....please dont deny u are gabyaliste to the core.....i agree with nasra now and i understand what she was talking about...the sad part about all this is u seem to think u are right.....well girlfreiend someone that cares give u and advice and this is my advise for u look before u leap am serious cuz if u open ur mouth were there are alof of somalis they gone hurt u or else there may be argument u would wish never happened.. any who i still dont see why somali people would harras a six year old so please come up with a better lie.. adios Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nazra Posted November 23, 2002 Correct me if i'm wrong but i do remember seeing in your posting "faqash temintor" or was that someone esle. First of all sis smaiya don't get ahead of your self cause you might trip and as far as i am concerned you seem to be tripp' already. SOMALILAND SHEIKET!!! :confused: what the hell...expalin yourself. Plz sis don't give sheiket a bad name. Do you have to step down to a lower level what are you??? sheket for isaaq's yaa allah. Keep it simple. and say SOMALI SHEKEIT.... No need to reprsent somaliland that is just unneccasary sister. And may i say pathetic. What are you guyz trying to gain recgontion and identity. My heart goes out to you sister may you mind someone like you half somalia and the other half arab? cause you seem trap and looking for an identity. PS: Next time stay on the topic and bare with me and spare the lectures sister. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SamiGyrl Posted November 24, 2002 So I guess what your saying is that anyone who has a different point of view cant post it here huh. Pretty much, why is it that when someone from Somaliland comes here and tries to talk to you guys, about the war ad what happend that you cant talk without assuming a defensive mentality? In all my other posts I was trying to figure out why people from Somalia would let, the same people they are calling brothers and sisters now die? And I still have not received an explanation for it yet. If you only had the mind to see, I am trying to solve your problems, if you want Somaliland and its people back in the union, then answer their question. Why should we trust you again?, Why didnt the people in Somalia speak out about the war, and all the injustice that happended not only in the north, but in other areas? Instead of calling dear Somalia now? These are all questions that need to be answered before you go out and start claiming Lands and Regions that dont belong to you. With regards to the differences lets examine them, Somaliland got its independance from Britian % days before, and the people collectively decided to join with Somalia when they acquired their freedom, thinking that we were all Somalis and therefore should have one country, well early on differences came up like the sun dose every morning, before the union many people demonstrated against it from many tribes, however, our leaders and many others thought this was a good idea, so the union took place. Now Somalia took all the power, with minimal governmental authority left for northerners, it was like Somaliland was being colonized rather than being included as a nation as brothers, like Emerson said "We looked for a brother, and Lo' a governer", still many Somalilanders kept hoping that maybe the next administration would be better, not so, teh story when on and on, all the power concentrated in Somalia, and to top it off, if you wanted to travel anywhere you had to come to Muqdisho to get your papers inorder, and then return to Berbera or wherever else to take your trip, now does that sound like democracy to you? Secondly, Somaliland was ordered nto to have tall builds, so Somaliland businessmen took it to the Somalia and built the talest builds in Somalia there, but still why should the government do such a thing? Democracy is it? And all the officials that governed in Somaliland were from Somalia, now how could someone who knows nothign about the people or their culture, govern them? Well they did a poor job of it, and later tried to wipe out the people. Thirdly, I remember soo many things being done to Somalilanders while living in Moqadisho, like I remember someone from Somalia proper getting married and people from Somaliland had to pay for his marriage, not because they wanted too, but because they were being made too. Fourthly, I remember my uncles and some of my aunts were businessmen and women and were getting cars, and furniture from the port of Berbera and I was with them, and u know what, all their goods went to generals from Somalia who never earned it. Democracy is it? Fairness is it? Brotherlyness is it? No!!! Why is it that when peopel from SOmaliland ask you things like that, that no one in Somalia has a answer for it? Now serial Killers have an answer for what they do, and so did hitler and many germans, but what I dont understand is how a nation a while nation, can watch its people die and let it happen, Like i said I remember watching tv in Muqdisho and seeing people from Somaliland died in the streets being killed by their own government and no one in SOmalia had the balls to say a whisper!!! But what really amazes me and many of my professors at American University who are studying Somalia is why people in Somalia act like nothing happend, and why they are soo determined to put the same men, the same war criminals in office again? Selective memory!!! or just plain hatred you take a pick. ANd u know what most of my friends are Barawani and God help them for what people in Somalia did to them, I remember my friends mother telling me about the rapes that went on, and it was heart breaking to see an old woman cry, but you know what she told me, an old woman told me to be proud of SOmaliland and to stay away from Somalia, "They are no good, not human" God only knows what else was done to them. But many of them are living in Somaliland happly and I welcome them wiht happy arms or friendship u know why because they are human. The only thing that keeps your soo called Somalia apart is your unwillingness to confront what your people did, and what your people let happen to your brothers and sisters, so if you wonder why people in Somaliland and other regions dont want to have anything to do with you, think back to your mouth being shut in the face of injustice, think back to your hands being folding in a heated battle from freedom, think back to your back being turned when a brother called out for help! Can you then blame us for leaving? Differences yes, we have major differences between you and me. We chose to fight against tyrants, and war criminals. You would rather have them take offce and rule over the same people they killed. We allow for tribes to speak their minds, and resolve their problems through speech, like you saw in Sool and Sanaag. You would rather wipe out an entire nation, just to get your way. One man on the forum, told me that Somaliland has nothing to brag about because we dont have television shows, well we do, but I didnt waste my time on that. I told him if he favoured tv shows over freedom to do business, walk the streets, and own your own property, and live like a human being should then the whole world could see the difference between you and me. At the rate you guys are going your dream of Somalia will never become fruitfull, why? Because it was you who ruined it, and now no one trusts you, and with good reason. I am offering you guys a chance to explain your ways? Why did you let it happen, if you believe in brotherhood, why? Why did you let it happen if you are a muslim? Why did you kill other muslims? Why did you watch it on tv, and not fight back. why? Why did you deal unjustly with your so called brothers why? All questions that you cant answer. -SamiGyrl FaqashXterminator Faqash were peopel that killed off many ethnic somali people, if you get offended by it, then I guess your one of them, if you havent killed anyone, or sat by and watched others do it and played along then I guess you have something to worry about. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rokko Posted November 24, 2002 Girl-from-your-dreams and nasra, Ya'all so innocent yo. Samygirl is most likely MohamedJ or Xplaya with a female username namean? Somaliland Sheikhah kulahaa. Don't even bother or even answer HIS hateful crap yo. Ignore. Ignore. Ignore. Start replying to them fellas who ain't QABYAALADIISTE. Don't bother giving the QABYAALADIISTE one second of your attention. Somaliland Sheikhah? Who do ya think ya fooling son? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Changed Posted November 24, 2002 loooooooooooool mob deep u are right..... samigirl i will tell u how to open a new post click add a post aight .... and dont give us the " i have a dream" speech :rolleyes: ..u dont even now what kind of somali we are so back offff about us somali's aight :mad: i will not even argue with ya cuz u sound ignorant and i wont give u a minute of my time but a little reminder will help u.....look at the topic everyone is talking about den reply and if u need help in buying ur self glasses u can ask for donation cuzz u are lost sister .... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites