xabad Posted January 6, 2013 some people have no respect for the scientific way, they want us to believe their opinions and disregard real facts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted January 6, 2013 The question we should ask our selves why are we calling these people Cushetic what does King Kush have to do with the NFD region Ethiopia Eritrea Somalia Djibouti Somaliland, Did King kush speak the language of the Amharas or Tigrayans or even Geez or oromo Did King Kush speak Somali. These groupings were created by the European anthropologists thats Ameenas point and she is correct. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oba hiloowlow Posted January 6, 2013 Raamsade;905864 wrote: Eeyaheey i dhageyso, meeshan cidna ka ma hadlin Africa iyo Djibouti iyo Ethiopia iyo wax yaale noocaa ah. Su'aasha meesha taala waxa weeye: dadyowgan loo yaqaan Somali, Afar, Oromo, Rendille, iwm, ma is la wadaagaan taariikh, Af, iyo dhaqan iyo hiddo oo tusta in asal ahaan hal meel ka wada yimaadeen? Jawaabta qayaxan-na waa HAA. Waxaa jawaabtaa caddeyn u ah Afafka ee ku wada hadlaan. Af wuxuu la mid yahay ab (ancestry). Sida dadka isku abka ah u wadaagaan dhiig (genetics), dadka isku abka ah waxee kaloo wadaagaan Afaf. Tusaale ahaan, dadka Europe dega waxee ku hadlaan Af loo yaqaan Indo-European lakin markii hoos loo daadego waxee ku kala hadlaan Afaf tira badan sida Romanc Languages (Italian, Spanish, French, Romanian, etc.), Slavic, Germanaic, Celtic, etc. Afkeen Somaaliga waa sidaa oo kale. Kow, Af Somaaliga wuxuu ka mid yahay Afro-Asiatic ama Afrosan language group oo la wadaagno Hebrew, Arabic, Amharic, Ancient Egyptian, Berber, Oromo, Afar, iwm. Ka dib waxaa midnahay Cushitic. Ra'yigan waa mid aqoonyahano aad uga xeeldheer arrintan soo jeediyeen. Waa mid ku saleysan qeex iyo qiil (reason and evidence) ma aha mid dad aa waxba garaneyn iska soo alifteen. Marka waa ognahay in aadan aaminsaneyn wax la yiraahdo Cushitic balse wax caddeyn ah ma inoo haaysaa? Mise waxaad rabtaa in aa adi ku aamino caddeyn la'aan? Marka inoo sheeg waxa keeney dhowaanta afankan: Somali Kow/Hal Labbo Saddex Afar Shan Lix Toddobo Siddeed Sagaal Tobon Oromo (Galla ) Takka/Tokko Lama Sadii Afar Shan Jaha Torba Saddeet Sagal Khudhan Afar Inik Mammay Sadex Firey Kon Lixey Malxiin ba-xaar sagal taban Saho Iniik Lamma Adox Afar Kon Lix Malexeen Baxaar Sagal Tammon Rendille Kow Lamma Sayex Afar Can Lix Teeba Sedeet Sagaal Tommon Borana Toko Lama Sadi Afur Shian Jaa Torba Sadeti Sagal Kudhan Xaggee lagu bartaa Af Soomaligaa? Must be some in some village in Kilinka Shanaad courtesy of Injirley pedagogy. Aa ku baro afkaada hooyo waa haddaa Somali tahay... waa la tuhunsanyahy in aa Somali tahay. Af Somali wuxuu leeyahay 7 shibbane (consonants) oo labalaabma, kuwaas waa: N, M, B, R, D, G iyo L. Haddaadan labalaabin shibbanayaashaas ma qori kartid erayo badan sida bannaan, qoomammo, abbaan, berri, haddii, ragga iyo ballan. Erayo kale-na ma la kala garan kartid sida Carab (ethnicity) and Carrab (tongue); haddaadan labalaabin R sidee u kala garan labadaa eray? Kow Lama Seddex afar shan lix todobba Siyeed Sagaal tobban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raamsade Posted January 6, 2013 Oba, is that the numbers in Af Maay? Xaaji Xunjuf;905905 wrote: The question we should ask our selves why are we calling these people Cushetic what does King Kush have to do with the NFD region Ethiopia Eritrea Somalia Djibouti Somaliland, Did King kush speak the language of the Amharas or Tigrayans or even Geez or oromo Did King Kush speak Somali. These groupings were created by the European anthropologists thats Ameenas point and she is correct. Cushitic and the biblical Cush have nothing to do with each other. The former is just a name chosen, inappropriately perhaps, for a group of related languages. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oba hiloowlow Posted January 6, 2013 Af maay, Xaayow and reer xamar dialect. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted January 6, 2013 Raamsade;905927 wrote: Oba, is that the numbers in Af Maay? Cushitic and the biblical Cush have nothing to do with each other. The former is just a name chosen, inappropriately perhaps, for a group of related languages. Its directed from the Biblical Kush its inappropriate u said it ur self. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wadani Posted January 6, 2013 It may be inappropriate but it doesn't change the fact that these groups are genetically and linguistically related, however distant such relations may be. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ismahaan Posted January 6, 2013 Haaji DNA gu been ma sheegto. Soomaalida, oromomada, North Africanta , east africanta intooda badan waa isku DNA. Anaa DNA iska qaaday oo aay ugu dheheeyn 2000 years ago maybe east africa ku abuurmeen dadkagu God knows how they figured out that. Markaan waaydiiyeey xagee baan ka imina imaay sheegin, ma ogaan karno baay ku leeyihiin. Laakiin shaki la aan dadkaan East Africa dagaa waa isku mid . They are relatively homogeneous (80%).E1b1b1- Typical of people from Near East, North Africa, East Africa. Do your research. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted January 7, 2013 Ismahaan;905962 wrote: Haaji DNA gu been ma sheegto. Soomaalida, oromomada, North Africanta , east africanta intooda badan waa isku DNA. Anaa DNA iska qaaday oo aay ugu dheheeyn 2000 years ago maybe east africa ku abuurmeen dadkagu God knows how they figured out that. Markaan waaydiiyeey xagee baan ka imina imaay sheegin, ma ogaan karno baay ku leeyihiin. Laakiin shaki la aan dadkaan East Africa dagaa waa isku mid . They are relatively homogeneous (80%).E1b1b1- Typical of people from Near East, North Africa, East Africa. Do your research. There are different haplogroups E1B1C E1b1C Thomas Jefferson carries the same haplogroup it means nothing to be honest but we were talking about language language is different than genetics. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted January 7, 2013 Wadani;905938 wrote: It may be inappropriate but it doesn't change the fact that these groups are genetically and linguistically related, however distant such relations may be. They were just grouped to each other most of these anthropological doctors from Europe haven't really studied these languages they just needed to clear and group these languages in boxes or order to understand the culture of these people no African ever grouped these languages as one. And genetics is a whole different debate some ethnics are closer to each other some are far apart from each other. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ridwaan Posted January 7, 2013 Tutsi have no commonality with Somalis in any way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ameena Posted January 8, 2013 I am aware that you are desperately trying to link Somalis with Oromos and Afars, However, Somalis have nothing in common with Oromos, Afar or anyone else's in Africa for that matter, there is no biological, historical, linguistical or cultural aspect that bonds an Afar or Oromo with a Somali, Get over it please! Raamsade;905864 wrote: Eeyaheey i dhageyso, meeshan cidna ka ma hadlin Africa iyo Djibouti iyo Ethiopia iyo wax yaale noocaa ah. Su'aasha meesha taala waxa weeye: dadyowgan loo yaqaan Somali, Afar, Oromo, Rendille, iwm, ma is la wadaagaan taariikh, Af, iyo dhaqan iyo hiddo oo tusta in asal ahaan hal meel ka wada yimaadeen? Jawaabta qayaxan-na waa HAA. Waxaa jawaabtaa caddeyn u ah Afafka ee ku wada hadlaan. Af wuxuu la mid yahay ab (ancestry). Sida dadka isku abka ah u wadaagaan dhiig (genetics), dadka isku abka ah waxee kaloo wadaagaan Afaf. Tusaale ahaan, dadka Europe dega waxee ku hadlaan Af loo yaqaan Indo-European lakin markii hoos loo daadego waxee ku kala hadlaan Afaf tira badan sida Romanc Languages (Italian, Spanish, French, Romanian, etc.), Slavic, Germanaic, Celtic, etc. Afkeen Somaaliga waa sidaa oo kale. Kow, Af Somaaliga wuxuu ka mid yahay Afro-Asiatic ama Afrosan language group oo la wadaagno Hebrew, Arabic, Amharic, Ancient Egyptian, Berber, Oromo, Afar, iwm. Ka dib waxaa midnahay Cushitic. Ra'yigan waa mid aqoonyahano aad uga xeeldheer arrintan soo jeediyeen. Waa mid ku saleysan qeex iyo qiil (reason and evidence) ma aha mid dad aa waxba garaneyn iska soo alifteen. Marka waa ognahay in aadan aaminsaneyn wax la yiraahdo Cushitic balse wax caddeyn ah ma inoo haaysaa? Mise waxaad rabtaa in aa adi ku aamino caddeyn la'aan? Ilaahay wax na tus waxse ka sheegimayno. You are deliberately misleading people into thinking that Somali language is related to Oromos language and Afar language, Anyway, please tell me what do the following words have in common with each other? Raamsade;905864 wrote: Marka inoo sheeg waxa keeney dhowaanta afankan: Somali Kow/Hal Labbo Saddex Afar Shan Lix Toddobo Siddeed Sagaal Tobon Oromo (Galla ) Takka/Tokko Lama Sadii Afar Shan Jaha Torba Saddeet Sagal Khudhan Afar Inik Mammay Sadex Firey Kon Lixey Malxiin ba-xaar sagal taban Saho Iniik Lamma Adox Afar Kon Lix Malexeen Baxaar Sagal Tammon Rendille Kow Lamma Sayex Afar Can Lix Teeba Sedeet Sagaal Tommon Borana Toko Lama Sadi Afur Shian Jaa Torba Sadeti Sagal Kudhan Xaggee lagu bartaa Af Soomaligaa? Must be some in some village in Kilinka Shanaad courtesy of Injirley pedagogy. Aa ku baro afkaada hooyo waa haddaa Somali tahay... waa la tuhunsanyahy in aa Somali tahay. Af Somali wuxuu leeyahay 7 shibbane (consonants) oo labalaabma, kuwaas waa: N, M, B, R, D, G iyo L. Haddaadan labalaabin shibbanayaashaas ma qori kartid erayo badan sida bannaan, qoomammo, abbaan, berri, haddii, ragga iyo ballan. Erayo kale-na ma la kala garan kartid sida Carab (ethnicity) and Carrab (tongue); haddaadan labalaabin R sidee u kala garan labadaa eray? Somali maxamadeey waydin kaa arkaaya, Dad Somali sheganayaa oo ujeedo kale wata, ayaa u soo xaytay inay luqadii Af Somaliga badalaan, dagaal bay Af Somaligii kula jiraan, dadkani walaahi Somali maaha, waa dad ujeedo kale wata, Dadkani xitaa Somali Muslim maaha, waxay u badan yahiin gaalo, waa Christians. Bal hada eega qofakani "Raamsade" wuxuu rabaa inuu dadka ka dhaadhiciyo inay kalmadahani Takka/Tokko Jaha Khudhan Inik Mammay Firey Malxiin ba-xaar Torba Can Sayex Malexeen Tommon Baxaar Tammon Jaa Shian Teeba Adox ay Af Somaliga u dhow yahiin, walaahi waa yaab, dadkani Somalida sheeganayaa ee hadana af Somaligii dagaal kula jira, waa inaa la iska qabto, waxay rabaan inay qoraalkii af Somaliga badalaan, walaahi waa yaabka yaab kii. Internet ku dhibaatadaas bay leedahay, qof baa intuu computer kuu soo daba fadhiisto sheeganaya wuxuuna ahay, oo dadkii khalkhal galinaaya. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SomaliPhilosopher Posted January 8, 2013 I met a Tutsi, in Mogadishu. He worked for AMISOM. He joked with me that he is Somali. He mentioned how many of the tutsis in his country, Burundi see themselves as descendants/relatives of Somalis Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naxar Nugaaleed Posted January 8, 2013 Xajiyow ilmaha ha ka waalin. Linguist have determined language groups not based on European agendas but how close to languages are to each other. If someone has beef with that academic community, they need not babble here on sol but take case to that community and refute established facts. FYI both the names Cushitic and Semitic have long histories. Surely no one who has heard Amharic or Tigrinya and knows basic Arabic will doubt the affinity of those languages. Just the same as Oromo and Somali. Every people must come from somewhere and are usually related to nearby ethnic groups, Somalidu ma cirkay ka soo dhacday? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rudy-Diiriye Posted January 14, 2013 i took the Tutsi test and i failed: Very True Story: This what happened to me. Sometime ago, my somali-home gal, was trynna hook me up with new in town xaliimo!! u know their aint that many good clean xalimoos in la so homie needs to have his xaliimo detectives..for good hookups.lol So home-gal calls me up n tells me that she gonna hook me with brand new spanking xaliimo!! I say kol thx babe gal. i am all excited. However, she didnt tell me that, she was gonna bring with a tutsi gal to!! What good go wrong?>>> I so go to the Restruant where she told to come. I go there looking kol....u feel me, new hair cut & the whole shabang! I go there, sit down, meet them, chilling talking........etc Some how, no formal introduction took place and my two heads where having a somali civil war!! On my left side was a very lite, michael jackson looking women, with pimples on her face!!! and facing me was nice, hot, brown skinned lady! My instincts kicked in n told me...yup! this is the xalimoo........so i started the convo with her so we are chatting for like 20 min!! Finally, i heard laughing...looked the other side and my friend is like telling me...that i am talking to the wrong lady!! I was shocked n embarrassed!! some how me n the somali xalimoos never chilled!! even though we dated for like a month! Once u miss the target, its a lost cause. ce le vie. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
