Who are the Tutsis?

[oba hiloowlow]

waxan taaganahay this ameena from xararge is oromo herself ama sidamo

[Ameena]

Xaaji Xunjuf;903996 wrote:

lol European anthropologist came with the terms of Kushetic semitic omotic just to clear things for themselves i am sure no Amhaara tigrinya oromo gurage called his language kushetic or semitic.

 

Well said, thank you!!

 

Somalidu intaas bay fahmi waayeen, Europeans aan kalmad af Somali ku hadal ayaa Somalidii kuleh luqada aad ku hadashaan, waxay tahay Cushitic oo af Oromos, Afar, Agaw, Rendille, Saho iyo Bejas ayay u dhow dahayo waxaad tahiin dad isku mida, Somalidii jaahiliintiina way rumaysteen oo meel kasta waxay hada la taagan yahiin waxaanu nahay cushutic oo Oromos, Afar, Bejas, Agaw, Saho, Rendille ayaanu wada dhalanay, it's unbelievable,

 

Somalidu waa dad fudud, waa wax ma hubsadayaal, jaahilnimaduna ku badan tahay, hadana waxaaba soo baxay oo Forum kasta taagan, dad Somali sheeganaya oo faa finaaya waxani cushitic lagu sheegayo, waxaan umalaynayaa inaa lacag lagu siiyo.

 

wayba ooyayaan hadii aad ku tidhaahdo Somalidu cushitic maaha.

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

Somalidu waxay gaaladu u sheegaan wa iska qataan dee thats why Somalidu qaar u yidhaan oromo baynu wax isu nahay iyo guraage iyo cafnar iyo qaar kalo badan.Wax aan raad iyo maskax toona lahayn. Somalida waxa ku dhacay wax la yidha identity crisis wax uun bay intaas raadinayan.

[oba hiloowlow]

loool xaaji xunjuf hypocrit fowqal hypycrit aint you the man claiming arab baanu nahay.

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

Never claimed Arab. even the whole Arab identity is false and diverse , i can claim Arab or Berber or descendants of pharaohs but it means nothing today, but since the rise of Islam the Arabazation of many places in the world especially in the horn was very present. Especially in coastal earias in Eritrea Djibouti Somaliland southern Somalia Marka Mogadisho. Arab is not an Ethnic group its a lose identity the Assyrians are not Arabs the Lebanese are not Arabs as we know it but catogarized as Arabs. The Himyars of Yemen are considered semi Arabs, the jebertis of Eritrea are considered arabs its just the way u turn it. The Arab identity is as lose as the African identity the only difference is africa is limited only in Africa and to some Black people in south and north America.

[xabad]

Arab is an ethnic group sxb by blood, there is nothing loose about it. assyrians never claim arab, they just happen to speak arabic. arabness has it has basis in genes and the arab in morocco and in the arab who migrated to indonesia share bloodlines. leave aside the people they enslaved by culture and the offspring of arab men and indigenous women.

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

Not true the Arabs don't share the same haplogroups (genetics) Assyrians are considered Arabs you become Arab by culture and language and tradition its a very lose identity. And this identity of Arab was even encouraged by Islam its self when the Islamic prophet Muhamamad csw said who ever speaks Arabic is an Arab, The Lebanese have a canaanite ancestry and even some have European ancestry. with the expansion of the first islamic Empire the Ummayd Empire the Arab culture and identity was spread through out the middle east and Egypt. The various islamic conquests all around the middle east and north Africa they left their footprints in many of those countries the Abasid Empire continued in their footsteps. Morocco is considered part of the Arab world while the berbers are the majority of the people but alMamlakah alMaġribiyah is considered an Arab nation.

[GaraadMon]

xabad;904073 wrote:

Arab is an ethnic group sxb by blood, there is nothing loose about it. assyrians never claim arab, they just happen to speak arabic. arabness has it has basis in genes and the arab in morocco and in the arab who migrated to indonesia share bloodlines. leave aside the people they enslaved by culture and the offspring of arab men and indigenous women.

Genetic tests have actually shown that Arab speaking Maghrebis have little to no Arab admixture with Berber speakers having a slight bit more.The Arab ethnic group is no different than the Chinese ethnic group in that it was spread through a mixture of conquest and cultural assimilation through trade. The Arab ethnic group is strictly a cultural-linguistic conglomeration of ethnic groups, similar to Jews.

[xabad]

There are cultural arabs and their are genetic arabs, i don't count the former as real arabs. sort of like somali born in uk, has passport and is fully integrated but still his genes don't reflect his englishness even he plays for england team and fights for their country. get me

[xabad]

i disagree. Chinese is a strongly fixed identity, i studied in Malaysia, Chinese Malaysians can go back to their regions even now after 300 yrs of being in south east asia, speak Chinese and they rarely intermarry with south east Asians. they are very protective of their identity, sort of like whites not mixing with black thing. we knew arabs in maghreb have intermixed with berbers but even there are some tribes who can prove direct lineage from the earlier conquering arab tribes. as such they think they are superior to the mixed and berbers. the latter resent it and you have berber nationalism on the rise in the maghreb.

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

Thats if you go into details there are arab tribes who predate the cadnaani Arabs the Al thamud where are they today they assimilated in other groups along other canaaites. when Egypt and Syria united they formed the united Arab republic Al Jamhuuriyal Al Carbiya al Mutaxida while Gamaal abdel nasir of Egypt knew the Syrians are not from Qaxdaani Arabs or the Cadnaani Arabs the main 2 arabian tribes. He well knew they were Assyrians but the Arab identity and Ethnic group united them which is a cultural linguistic tradional identity.The same way the Samaritans mixed with the ancient Filastinies they share the exact Haplogroup and genetics along with other Hebrews.

[Sakata]

None better none worse Tutsis are Tutsis and Somalis are Somalis stop this nonsense...

[xabad]

Jews are not a conglomeration at all. Real jews are two distinct groups sephardic and the ashkenazic both are highly homogenous peoples who have always intermarried in their group, that is why certain genes and diseases are passed on exclusively to them. ethiopian jews, kafeng jews, indian jews and black jews are all converts. main point jewish is more ethnic and less of cultural thing like islamic or christianity

[brainblaster456]

Ameena;903938 wrote:

Somalidu waa dad duliya, iyagiibaa isku dilaaya qabiil iyo wax aan loo joogin markaas bay Oromos iyo wax aan la aqoon ay daba ordayaan.

Qabiil is one thing and running after Oromos is another thing. There are enough sources that the Somali language is classed as Cushitic and because of this i don't have to be claiming Oromos or Afar ma fahamtay. It's not about what suit's you best or your own desire's Ameena girl; it is all about the fact's. And whait is wierd is because of this you think i am chicken or some next person in Anthroscape or something; it does not stop me from spreading fact's. Just because Somali is classed as cushitic does not mean Somali has to Afar, Oromo, Rendille ect. brainblaster456 is his own and chicken is some one else.

 

Cambridge and Ohio university are just one of the academic location's that discuss the Somali language and confirm's it as Cushitic classification:

 

http://www.langcen.cam.ac.uk/resources/lang-s/lang_s.php?c=10

 

http://www.african.ohio.edu/African%20Languages/somali.html

 

This is the most polite way i can give you information...

[Raamsade]

Ameena;904046 wrote:

Somalidu intaas bay fahmi waayeen, Europeans aan kalmad af Somali ku hadal ayaa Somalidii kuleh luqada aad ku hadashaan, waxay tahay Cushitic oo af Oromos, Afar, Agaw, Rendille, Saho iyo Bejas ayay u dhow dahayo waxaad tahiin dad isku mida, Somalidii jaahiliintiina way rumaysteen oo meel kasta waxay hada la taagan yahiin waxaanu nahay cushutic oo Oromos, Afar, Bejas, Agaw, Saho, Rendille ayaanu wada dhalanay, it's unbelievable,

Lakin, Afafkan oo dhan waa Afaf aad uga dhow Af Somali sida Afafka Europeanka aad suga wada dhow yihiin. Orod oo isla barbardhig tirooyinka Af Somali, Af Afar, Af Rendille, Af Saho, iwm.

 

Waligaa ma is weydiisey sababta Somalida u dhahaan Kontan? Sow ma eheen in ee dhahaan Shantan waayo Af Somaliga tiradiisa waa: Kow, Labbo, Saddex, Afar, Shan, Lix... xagee Konton ka timid?

 

Markaad dib u qeexdid Afafka Cushitic la yiraahdo, waxaad ogaan in waagii horey oo dadka Cushitic ku hadla ka la qeybsamin in Shan loo yaqaaney Kon sida ilaa iyo hadda Af Afar ee u isticmaalaan Kon. Marka, Afafka Cushitic waa Qolo Afaf (Language Group) oo jira kuna saleysan qeex iyo cilmibaaris dad aqoonyahano ah sameeyeen.