A Secular Somali State?

[ailamos]

N.O.R.F;928833 wrote:

This was a good thread that died at page 8. Welcome back ailamos!

Thanx! I see there are lots of new people around.

[Naxar Nugaaleed]

the separation of mosque and state, is not only good for the state, the people but also the mosque itself. the clergy can devote their time to spiritual guidance and not worry about political demagogues. and politicians can focus on public service rather the whims of religious demagogues

[Khadafi]

Naxar Nugaaleed;931201 wrote:

the separation of mosque and state, is not only good for the state, the people but also the mosque itself. the clergy can devote their time to spiritual guidance and not worry about political demagogues. and politicians can focus on public service rather the whims of religious demagogues

1+ xaaji!

[N.O.R.F]

Australia plans to ban live betting odds during sports The government has warned that up to 500,000 Australians are at risk of becoming, or are, problem gamblers. Continue reading the main story

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Australia has unveiled plans to ban television and radio broadcasts of betting odds during live sports matches in a bid to curb problem gambling.

 

Gambling advertisements will no longer appear during live events and around sporting venues, the government said.

 

Prime Minister Julia Gillard said Australians had become "increasingly frustrated" with the promotions.

 

The broadcasting industry is expected to submit a revised code to Australia's media watchdog reflecting the changes.

 

"From the moment that the players step onto the field, to the moment that they leave the field, there will be no live odds," Ms Gillard told a press conference.

 

"This is good news for families, because families I think have become increasingly frustrated about the penetration of live odds into sporting coverage."

 

Under the new rules, advertisements would only be allowed before or after a game, or during a scheduled break in play, such as quarter-time and half-time.

 

'Focus of game'

 

Promotion of betting odds by bookmakers who appear to be part of broadcast teams will also be banned.

 

The National Rugby League, which in the past has allowed bookmakers to give odds during broadcasts, said it agreed with the government's plan.

 

"The overwhelming sentiment is that we do not want to see betting as the primary focus of our game," NRL chief executive Dave Smith said.

 

Fans, and particularly young fans, should not be subject to excessive promotion of betting during matches

 

"We want young kids to be enjoying the skills of their favourite team, not quoting the odds."

 

The broadcasting industry is expected to submit a revised code to the Australian Communications and Media Authority, said the government.

 

It estimates that up to 500,000 Australians are at risk of becoming, or are, problem gamblers.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-22677753

[N.O.R.F]

Turkey parliament passes anti-alcohol bill

 

Turkey's parliament has backed a controversial bill restricting the consumption and advertising of alcohol in the predominantly Muslim country.

 

The measure, passed on Friday, prohibits alcoholic beverage companies from sponsoring events and restricts the places where such drinks can be consumed. It also bans the sale of alcoholic drinks between 10pm and 6:00am, but only in shops.

 

Health Minister Mehmet Muezzinoglu said that the ban would not affect bars and restaurants, and open air bars and cafes would continue to serve alcohol past 10pm.

 

Supporters of the measure - introduced by the ruling Justice and Development Party (AKP) Party, which has its roots in Islam - say the law is seeking to protect society, particularly children, from the harmful effects of alcohol.

 

Critics see it as a sign of increasing conservative policies but Turkish secularists argue the legislation intrudes into private life.

 

TV series, films or music videos are not allowed to contain images encouraging the consumption of alcohol under the new legislation.

 

It also brings stricter penalties on drunken driving.

 

Drivers with a blood alcohol content of more than 0.05 percent will be slapped with a nearly $388 fine and their driving licenses will be confiscated for a six-month period.

 

Drunken drivers with a blood alcohol level over 0.1 percent will face up to two years' imprisonment.

 

The law must be approved by President Abdullah Gul to take effect. He is expected to sign it soon.

 

Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan's government, in power for over a decade, is often accused of creeping efforts to make the country more conservative.

 

Under Erdogan's rule, headscarves - banned in public institutions - have become more visible in public places and alcohol bans more widespread.

 

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/europe/2013/05/2013524101622966667.html

[Tallaabo]

Naxar Nugaaleed;931201 wrote:

the separation of mosque and state, is not only good for the state, the people but also the mosque itself. the clergy can devote their time to spiritual guidance and not worry about political demagogues. and politicians can focus on public service rather the whims of religious demagogues

That can not happen because Islam is not an organised religion like the Roman Catholic church and the other Christian denominations. Islam today is more like an anarchic religion with no centralised authority.

[Marksman]

People compare islam's state today with Christianity about 400 years ago.

[Tallaabo]

^ Even 400 years ago Christianity was more organised than Islam. In fact, the Roman Catholic church was a political force in control of much of Europe.

[Haatu]

^That's because Islam is an individual thing. We don't need to go to priests to be "forgiven" hence the perceived lack of structure. If anything, Islam has a structure but it's a very local one limited to your local mosque in the neighbourhood and the local imam.

[Toes]

Haatu;957111 wrote:

^That's because Islam is an individual thing. We don't need to go to priests to be "forgiven" hence the perceived lack of structure. If anything, Islam has a structure but it's a very local one limited to your local mosque in the neighbourhood and the local imam.

Agreed.

 

Islam is a complete way of life. Many have already said what I wanted to and more but it is vital that we educate ourselves about the religion like we do about secualr matter before forming an opinion. Once you have done that and you still feel that there is nothing wrong with a secular state than....its on you. Allah will judge you and Allah knows best. Everyone should stand up for what they believe in and what they believe to the truth.