abunas2008 Posted January 25, 2008 Who are the Somalis? (The Truth) by Abunas2008 What race are Somalis and who we really are? Are they a separate African race? Or are they mixed with Arabs and Europeans, to an extent which would explain their appearance. Although craniofacially (judging by facial features and our human the skull) Somalis resemble Nordic (particularly Norwegian) people more than any other ethnic group. Also recent research has shown that the average Somali is genetically (when testing someone’s DNA) only 15% Caucasian, which includes Arabs, North Africans, as well as Europeans. The rest of the Somali genome consists of 5% Sub-Saharan African genes, and the remaining 80% consists of Cushitic (and possible semi-ancient Egyptian) genes.* Please read this anthropology report about Somali people Because of recent studies of Cushitic people, anthropologists have had to discard some of their prior theories on the origin and progression of the human race. Genetically, East Africans are at the midpoint in relationship to Sub-Saharan Africans, and the peoples of Europe and Asia. "When the nonadaptive aspects of craniofacial configuration are the basis for assessment, the Somalis cluster with Europeans before showing a tie with the people of West Africa or the Congo Basin." "As our data show, the people of the Horn of Africa are craniofacially less distinct from a spectrum of samples marginally including South Asia and running all the way from the Middle East to northwest Europe than they are to any group in sub-Saharan Africa." Cushitic people are found largely in the Somalia, Ethiopia, and Eritrea, which are the main countries which constitute the Horn of Africa and within these nations the following dominant Cushitic ethnic groups are as follows Oromo: Largely populated in Ethiopia, Kenya and parts of Somalia [mainly as migrant workers or fleeing political persecution] Somalis: Populated in Somalia, Ethiopia, Djibouti and Kenya. Afar: Populated in Djibouti, Ethiopia and Erirea. Sidamo: Largely populated in Ethiopia. Somalis nearest cousins and without a shadow of a doubt in my opinion are Afar ethic group. We share a similar Cushitic language, same racial features, same culture and traditional clothing and religion i.e. over 99.9% of Afar people are Sunni Muslims like Somalis. If you STILL have difficulty in believing me check out my Youtube clip of Afar people and TRY to spot any difference What is Cushitic? The origin of the word Cushitic (also spelt as Kushitic) is from the Kingdom of Kush. The Kingdom that had traded, rivalled, was subjugated under but also ruled over the ancient Egyptian Kingdom. Here are some brief history about Kush Kingdom: · The Kush Kingdom located in Nubia - present day Northern Sudan was first based in Kerma, then at Napata and finally at Meroe. By about 1700 BC the town Kerma had grown into a town of 10,000 with rich minerals like gold… · The Egyptians even though having economical interests considered the Kush Kingdom a threat and occupied the territory for about 500 years. · However from around 850BC the Egyptan state fell and rose the Kush which gain authority over all of Egypt. · The Kush dynasty was based at Napata however after several hundred years of rule the dynasty ended after a military defeat at the hands of the Assyrians (a kingdom that was located in modern day Iraq) · Around 600BC the Kushites was moved again further south along the Nile from Napata to Meroe. · The Kush Kingdom flourished again as an advanced society through farming and new natural resources like iron: ore made Meroe the ‘Birmingham’ of the world with renowned blacksmiths. · But again the after several hundred years Kush Kingdom in Meroe began to fade by the first or second century AD due to a major war with the Rome Egypt and the decline of its traditional industries like iron. · The final blow to the kingdom was around 350AD when an army from the Kingdom of Axum (present day Meles Zenawi Tigray region of Ethiopia) invaded Meroe. · However the Kushites (Cushitic) people by then had already dispersed eventually settling further down pass the Nile rive scattering and inhabiting throughout present day Horn of Africa. From Meroe to Somalia (my thesis) Some Kush people from Meroe eventually began to settle in present day north western and north eastern regions of Somalia stretching from Djibouti to all the way to Bosaaso. As they had settle they had continue to practice their old tradition such as blacksmith (iron workers) raising cattle’s or farming skills which they have acquired from Meroe. As time went by and the religion of Islam began to spread, a (few) Arab traders had settled and taught Islam and married locals…and with this they had introduced new methods of transportation and raising livestock and cattle and a notable example is the camel and the system of semi-nomadic pastoralism. Eventually after a few hundred years through intermarriage and the adoption of the true religion which is Islam and the adaptation of Arabic tribal/clan systeam, a distinct ethnic group of Somalis was created. Many Somali clans and sub-clans were created but due rugged terrain and lack of water in Northern Somalia many clans began to move south and competition due to conflict over grazing land for their livestock and cattles and water. However, not all Somalis adopted the pastoralist way of living a few remand in the north and retained their skills as blacksmiths (iron worker) however due to the Somalis clannish ideologies these group of Somalis were and still are treated unequal in society due to their lower caste occupation i.e. Midgaan and others who are blacksmiths and craftsman. The Somali youth must be aware of our beautiful culture and history something which sadly only a few are aware of. Somali youths MUST not class themselves as BLACK it is a derogative word...just get a 20>50 year old English dictionary and learn what the REAL meaning of BLACK or you even watch Malcolm X film directed by Spike Lee and see the meaning of 'BLACK' AND please people STOP saying Somalis 'are from Arabs' yes 15% of our blood is Arabs but who cares I don't. I am proud to be instead 80% indigenous African...something that I will always be proud of. p.s. plz send me any message If any one wants for info on any of my posted topics. source: *Distribution of blood groups in the East African Somali population. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...&dopt=Abstract Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yaabka-Yaabkiis Posted January 25, 2008 In any form under RACE i write Somali cuz i am somali Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dj Mad_MaN Posted January 26, 2008 Somalis are more likely Ethiopian afros mixed with some african races like hutus and tuttsi in brundi if you look at their appearances u might say they are from some late Arabs which i personally disagree,An Ethiopian MOther + Brundis Fatgher = Maryooley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
me Posted January 26, 2008 Aliens, it doesn't matter who Somalis are what matters is that we are Somali. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacaylbaro Posted February 1, 2008 A crazy Aliens fall from the sky long time ago and placed themselves in the horn of Africa ,,, they're probably from Mars They just look like the normal human being that ppl argue if they are Africans, Arabs and so on ,,,, but since 17 years ago it has been clear that they are JUST ALIENS ,,, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A.J. Posted February 2, 2008 Who are the somalis? they are pure africans end of. stop this rubbish about us being part arab, its sad. we are africans and should be damn proud of it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cara. Posted February 2, 2008 ^There are African Arabs too. Maybe The First Female Somali Anthropologist can eventually answer the question... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A.J. Posted February 3, 2008 Cara, If you are referring to the Maghrib arabs, it is true that they are arabs as well as africans but the diference between them and us is that we claim to be arab, which is just a ridiculous notion in my opinion, and they are arabs full stop. Somali's, no matter how much we hate them, are closer to ethiopians ethnicity wise then we are to arabs. We are muslim black africans and i for one am proud of that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ElPunto Posted February 3, 2008 ^African Arabs aah? Don't let the Arabs hear you say that. BTW - speaking about Afars - is there any truth to the practice of toplessness of their nomadic women? *Question is asked in all innocence folks* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chimera Posted February 3, 2008 -Somali language is a cushitic language that developed in the Horn of Africa and is part of the Afro-Asiatic language phylum and has borrowed little from foreign languages, including Arabic from which it has incorporated religion related terminologies -Cushitic & Kingdom of Kush are not the same, one is an ancient Kingdom in present day Sudan and the former is a modern language classification. There are without a doubt remains of complex B.C and early A.D states and societies burried in Somalia but clannist governmental mentality and ignorance prevented the excavation of the interior and non-traditional medieval port cities, so there is no need to be lumped with Meroe when our origin is in Greater Somalia -Somali Genetics 80% e3b1 does not equal a person being 80% African cause E3b is a Paternal lineage there is also your Maternal side(think about it -- Paternal=50% Maternal=50%..80% paternal E3b + 50% maternal side = 130% human and those type of people don't exist sxb) Of every 100 Somali males there are 20 that have J,K,e3a lineages this in itself is insignificant cause it will vary in the 20 Somali individuals from 1% to 10% which is nothing. E3b1 is the dominant lineage which has it's origin in East Africa -Somali facial features developed in the Horn of Africa and is similar to our intermediate neighbours and some of them are ethnic groups that have seen little outside interaction throughout their history thus refuting the old belief of it being a foreign contribution. Pre-historic humans remains with the same morphologies as present day East Africans was the icing on the cake Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brother Warsameh Posted August 6, 2008 Somalis are a break-away clan from the Oromo; we were once "Galla" together. Originally posted by S .o.l_AnalYst: In any form under RACE i write Somali cuz i am somali Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ashkiro Posted August 6, 2008 I don't like the term "Cushitic" at all, we Africans shouldn't readily accept how the Western Academia with all it's bias, categorizes us. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ariadne Posted December 5, 2008 Originally posted by ThePoint: BTW - speaking about Afars - is there any truth to the practice of toplessness of their nomadic women? *Question is asked in all innocence folks* lol, sure it is. ahem.. cough ....perv...cough Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites