Peacenow Posted December 5, 2006 Our own Somali language has been diluted so much to the point that our heritage and cultural values are in the risk of becoming extinct. This is not an accident that we just woke up to it, but it has been the interest of many Arab countries to force the issue of Arabism into the Somali people by way of adulterating and raping our language, so much so it got to the point that it could be replaced with Arabic language today. The domination of Arabic media and the strategically designed attack on our language is apparent in every household of our broken down country today (satellites of Arabic media). We have a society that is unrecognisable so much so that one can detect the works of Talibans, Wahabists, Al-Qaida, and fundamentalists flourishing in our society and taking a strong hold to water down and dilute our once rich and pure cultures. Though many of these fanatics and fundamental teachings are losing their place in many Moslem countries like Saudi Arabia, Afganistan or Pakistan, especially after 9/11 when many Arab countries were forced to revisit the method of Islamic teachings in their schools where hatred towards others and oppression of women is part of their Islamic teaching curriculum, these agents of hate are finding their way to make high leaps over our unprotected borders in order to secure their existence in our society. But those agents are spreading the same teachings in our society so much so that one can observe the success of their teachings in our society today. It is another invasion that the Somalis don't even know it is happening; it is another failure on our part to protect our precious culture and language. Of all the money in the world and wealth they claim to have, these Arab countries have yet to build a single hospital or maternity ward to save the lives of our sisters and their children who are dying in great numbers in front of empty delivery rooms in our country for the lack of oxygen or simple drugs that could save their lives. Instead, they are spreading vicious teachings of how to subjugate our sisters, daughters and mothers and shut them up in their homes, where they remain subservient to their husbands and follow their orders; it is in the Islamic religion, they claim. I have even once witnessed some Somali men in a wedding gathering, who refused to sit and eat where everyone else was dinning, because they didn't want to sit around women and eat; it is against their Islamic faith (Wahabism), they claimed. We are suffering from identity crisis without even knowing it. As if that was not enough, many Arab nations, particularly UAE, contributed to destruction of our precious ecosystems and burning down our irreplaceable trees in order for them to have a free charcoal from which they tremendously made profit by exporting it to the Gulf countries. At the same, Somali tradesmen cannot have an access to their markets where they once used to sell their livestock. The consequences here, as one could imagine, are deadly. This practice of environmental invasion and economic assassination by obstructing the accessibility of their market for the Somalis caused the death of thousands of Somali children due to starvation and malnutrition, as reported by NGOs operating in Somalia. The Arabs have destroyed us and now they are laughing at us. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johnny B Posted December 5, 2006 Very intresting claims there !! Firstly welcome to SOL, secondly thanks for sharing that piece of mind. Having among us Somalis from Hargeisa who beleive that we Somalis don't have a culture of our own, you'll need more than your Helmet. so be ready to poor more of what you get. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hodman Posted December 5, 2006 Interesting claims indeed. How can you blame Arabs for a destruction that Somalis are doing to their own selves as in the case of the charcoal? as for this idea that arabs are diluting Somali language and culture I would say those are baseless claims. What exactly is this precious culture we lost? The qabiil ku faan and ignorance? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
me Posted December 5, 2006 I totally agree with you peacenow! But ehhhhh what do you suggest? what do you think that can be done? You raised few interesting points and Arabs have never been our friends, just like no one is our friend. We the Somalis now know that we are all we got and that no one wishes us well only harm, so how can we change these things? How can we save our language, our culture, our heritage and our selves from extinction? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Khalaf Posted December 5, 2006 peacenow sxb read this: Takbir ya Viking sxb: somalia was destroyed by none other then somalis and by ruling with socalism n man-made systems...get dat? Sxb in xamaar woman couldnt walk the streets......ppl used to watch porn, using money to feed kids to buy qaat (where was the outrage back then huh?) all dat has changed Glory is to Allah, yo i got ya u want to chew qaat dont ya? this banner of Islam belongs to all.... the scholars, leaders of Islam were not arabs but other Muslims......be cool sxb. If somali culture contridicts Islam.......then it should be abondened.....KHALAS. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johnny B Posted December 7, 2006 this banner of Islam belongs to all.... the scholars, leaders of Islam were not arabs but other Muslims......be cool sxb. If somali culture contridicts Islam.......then it should be abondened.....KHALAS. Such a stance is exactly what strengthens Mr peacenow point of view. This is utterly misleading, if it's ONLY about that banner and it belongs to all, then we'd have more Arabs dressing like us Somalis or Pakistanis, it is undeniable that the Somali's adoption of Islam has ( and still is leading to) led to cultural drought. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mantra Posted December 8, 2006 i've yet to see one Somali cultural practice worth hanging on to... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shakti Posted December 8, 2006 The Arabs have destroyed Somalis .. u just realized now... damn yellowteeth Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johnny B Posted December 9, 2006 Originally posted by mantra: i've yet to see one Somali cultural practice worth hanging on to... Doesen't that depend on how SOMALI you are to start with? Could it be so , the more arabic you speak the more you fall inline with what the Quran says , hence assume that there is no single somali cultural practice that is worth to be hanged on, dressing like an Arab girl is even far neater than the hot Xalimo you presumeably are? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Qandalawi Posted December 9, 2006 This guy is confused or may be if he's not then there is an agenda purpose behind this, its isn't a concidence that man talks about thelanguage and culture of Somalis being rooted out by the Arabs, while he opts to leave out the powers of super power of the Arabs like Saudi Arabia and other big states, how pathetic, and reduces his argument to a just fundementalist group who may or may not be Arabs are ones destroying Somali culture, bearing in mind that he states the group is in conflict with the big states of Arabia espcially Saudia and they lost in there... If I may ask as who might this group be and how big and powerful are they, and how much influence or a role they have played in the past Somali history or even current situation compared the rest of the big states u opt leave out.. My friend come out of the Bushes u r just hiding behind the smoke screen... Just say it u r not talking about culture or language but rather Idealogy. Yes, Idealogy that these said small number of fundamentalist men believe who might or might not be Arabs and at the same time fell out with Saudia.. ooh yes the Semi-arabs Just present that Ideology in its entirety and ask, then we might be in a fruitfull discussion and present our views, and people will now know and able to share what Idealogy they want and support. Simple Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
N.O.R.F Posted December 10, 2006 More anti arab nonsense Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ameen Posted December 12, 2006 They say, there are two sides to every story and one side of the story can not be bashed without actually looking into the facts. However, Somalis and Arab, fall under one main category and that is, Muslims. Why are you trying to bring light to a topic that will create more animosity between the hearts of the believers? Even if what you are saying is true, so what? If the Arabs are being attached in Mecca and Medina, are you going to sit at home and say, "forget those Arabs, they did me and my people wrong, so let them fight there own battle and die"...because honestly, I believe pride for my religion, is greater than pride for my land. And Allah knows best Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
N.O.R.F Posted December 12, 2006 Somalis are to blame for the mess. No one else! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rudy-Diiriye Posted December 12, 2006 u is right on the money bro!! we gave them food, camels, do you know that many arabians families use to get food the eat after many months unitl when the first somali boat docks in the persian gulf...true story. now they provide us with guns to eliminate each other so that no oil is drilled in somali..! pay back is u know what!! this remainds of the old colonial theory back in the day they were concurring africa...give them bibles and then shoot them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peacenow Posted December 12, 2006 The issue is to do with money. They have about 70% of the World's oil. Now they formed a cartel to control the prices and as you can imagine, they have done pretty well. If more and more players aorund the world, get oil, produce it, and benefit from it, the less, they can command for it in the market. They want to keep Somalia down, our people down, so no oil company dares to enter the country and develop our potential. they will give us everything bad about their culture, such as fundamentalism, while, they allow women in Qatar to play near naked in 'beach volleyball' Look at the case of our animal exports to them, Today they import most of their meat from Australia. Why? When they can buy from us. In fact, they designate our animal exports to be banned as they are carrying 'disease'. We must wake up from what the Arabs have in their mind for us. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites