Cara. Posted November 19, 2006 Surambaya, what rules are you talking about? Dave is doing a wonderful job, and many of us are silent readers in awe at his hard work and dedication. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ONE SOMALIA Posted February 29, 2008 wow I was searching fo sultan Abu bakr history and I found this threads. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nehanda Posted February 29, 2008 I have definitely learnt something new and wonderful about my country. Thumbs up for your hard work Adam. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stoit Posted February 29, 2008 Adam zayla Maasha ALLAH this is certainly one the most interesting topics and i shall make time in order to read it all insha ALLAH. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GM Posted March 12, 2008 "A-J-U-U-R-A-A-N KINGDOM 1400/1780 Hobyo the ancient port of Somalia was the commercial centre of the A-j-u-u-r-a-a-n Sultanate, based in Qalafo . All the commercial goods grown or harvested along the Shabelle river were brought to Hobyo to trade, as Hobyo remained the active mercantile pitstop of ancient times. The A-j-u-u-r-a-a-n rulers collected their tribute from the town in the form of sorghum (durra), and the port of Hobyo was incredibly profitable for the A-j-u-u-r-a-a-n sultans. Hobyo's A-j-u-u-r-a-a-n rulers were allies of the Mogadishu Sultanate, and trade between Hobyo and the Banaadir coast flourished for some time. So vital was Hobyo to the prosperity of the A-j-u-u-r-a-a-n Sultanate that when a clan successfully revolted against the A-j-u-u-r-a-a-n and established an independent Imamate of the Hiraab , the power of the A-j-u-u-r-a-a-n sultans crumbled within a century," "not much is known about this mysterious powerfull kingdom ..............." interesting information, any lead where i can find more info on the A-j-u-u-r-a-a-n Kingdom thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paragon Posted March 27, 2008 This is beautiful, Adam. Resourceful information. Have you thought of doing some research along this time line and piece together a history of Somalia? I have been thinking of doing so while I had access to historic materials but that time has gone. I sure would love to see someone do that. Should be interesting as a project, and a book might come out of it as a result. PS: If I could only get access to materials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chimera Posted March 29, 2008 Actually guys i made this topic a long time ago and i knew little, what you see in this thread is nothing compared to what i have in store, again bear with me and have patience Isseh my future website will without a doubt attract alot of bright Somali minds, and it being a platform solely based on the intention of becoming a center where we can exchange eachother's research, who knows what it will eventually stimulate! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paragon Posted March 29, 2008 ^^Absolutely beautiful. Your future website that is. Count me in as a future contributor. Anyway, perhaps you should ask Armchair Politician to contribute with his brilliant mapping systems. He sure is going to be useful. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chimera Posted March 29, 2008 His maps are as accurate as 5+5 being 11 the guy believes in Bazrangids, a neo-colonialist is what he is, the site's purpose is exactly to destroy the neo-colonialistic mentality individuals(together with the pan-ethiopianists) like him have towards Somali History, but you will understand in the near future why i'm dismissing him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paragon Posted March 29, 2008 ^^I note your skepticism to AP's mapping system but it is good to give the man his due credit. He has the creativity and expertise to be our map maker, does he not? What I am trying to say is that despite his earler maps which you might not agree with, he can make new maps if required. If you are trying to piece together a country's history, you'll need new relevant maps to be made to create a geographical history as well. This I am sure he can do if the needed information is provided to him, no? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coloow Posted March 30, 2008 Adam Z, Well done! I was once told a story about the Gobroon and geladi kingdom that stretched from south of Muqdisho to Baydhabo. Wax ma ka haaysaa arrintaasi? How about the gasaargude kingdom in Luuq? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chimera Posted March 30, 2008 Isseh i know many mapmakers so that's not an issue, and everybody will be welcome on the forum including armchair-politician but will i use his work for my articles, hmm nope Odey the House of Gobroon was the ruling family of the Geledian empire which stretched as far as lamu(i have a proto-article that will cover this state from beginning to the end but it's still incomplete), and 19th century Luuqh was known as the Timbuctu of Somalia because of the brisk trade and urbanization Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paragon Posted April 1, 2008 ^^Well, that's alright then Adam. Apart from suggesting AP for his skill, I was trying to make your future project seem more inclusive, you know, more unionist . Odey, on the Geledi Sultante, perhaps looking up in your institutes's library for the below biblio would yield some results: Luling, Virginia. (2002). Somali sultanate: The Geledi city-state over 150 years. London: HAAN. Relates history of town formerly called Geledi now called Afgooye, home of the Geledi clan, which existed as an early city-state before Italian colonization. As with other Somali areas, clan loyalties and alliances form the political framework. Colonization and modernization have barely changed basic village roadways or cultural hierarchies, but European building styles and dress coexist with the old. Explains settlement patterns, cultural hierarchies, and economic and agricultural practices. An annual New Year's Stick Fight symbolically recreates local history. Includes some maps and illustrations. Hope that helps, Odey. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chimera Posted April 1, 2008 Isseh brother, AP might have a neo-colonial mentality(as in natives were merely guests to foreigners who build the civilizations flourishing in their birth country) today, his view might change when he sees a clearer and more realistic picture of Somali History Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Geel_jire Posted April 1, 2008 ^ This thread is greatly appreciated adam. when do you expect your site to be up and running Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites