Expanding Universe

[JustCause]

Thanks Paragon! Here I was thinking we have a scientific philosopher in the house but it turns out we have a plagiarist. I was just baffled, the way he was going left and right, on a subject matter I spend more than 10 years of my life dealing with.

[Paragon]

Just Cause, my pressumption is that (judging from the years spent on the subject) you are a physicist. Am I close to getting it right?

 

Paragon: you're on a lone crusade saaxib. Exactly what triggers your interest in investigating someone's statements on this board?

Castro, subtle variations in textual writing of one author from the other. PoMo Double-reading and deconstructionism habbit I unwantedly picked up, unwantedly triggers my curiousity. But in general, I advocate for 'honesty with one's self' when it comes to interacting thoughts and ideas, especially with us Somalis. We need to develop original thoughts, using others' thoughts unceremoniously only offsets efforts of development.

 

PS: Intorrogating texts deflects attention from interrogating personalities, which isn't desireable. Unless that is there is a need for it in order to varify a fact.

[JustCause]

Originally posted by Paragon:

Just Cause, my pressumption is that (judging from the years spent on the subject) you are a physicist. Am I close to getting it right?

What can I say other than you are right!

[Paragon]

^^ It is good to know sxb. I am glad you are here to correct us when we make incorrect stipulations of the subject matter of your specialism.

[Viking]

JustCause,

Good to see you back on the boards mate.

 

Castro,

Paragon means qarxis in Latin.

[Castro]

^ Apparently so. I'm saddened and surprised this will go on in a forum like this. Specially after Paragon has busted people in the past.

 

This really creates a bad environment but that investigative work must be done.

[Pi]

You can get banned for using tribal references, but you dont get banned for unambigious plagiarism? What kind of joke is this?

[Castro]

^ Plagiarism didn't ruin Somalia, clannism did. Any plagiarist caught red-handed, as is the case here, should either explain or suffer a self-imposed ban. Banning him/her makes them a martyr of sorts.

[Khayr]

Originally posted by ATLAS:

Scientists say there is directly observable evidence of galaxies moving farther and farther away from each other

 

Many people take this to mean that the universe is expanding which has not ever rang true to me, my contention has been that:

 

the universe--being all that exists--wouldn't have anything to "expand" into; because nothing exists outside the universe.

 

Making it clearer i mean the question is a bit more complicated than that. "The universe" is an abstraction; it's a sum concept, it's not one single entity, consequently Space is somewhat like time; where time has motion, a perceptually-given fact, as its basic referent, space has distance, which is also perceptually-given. To say that "space is expanding", per se, is like saying "time is slowing down." Neither of them mean anything. It's only particular distances that can become greater or lesser, just as it's only particular motions that can speed up or slow down.

 

like to hear your views...

Is that why the question of WHAT IS VELOCITY is IGNORED in Physics and more concentration is given to Acceleration and Motion etc.

I'll have to refer to this book that I have, later on this afternoon, inshallah.

 

The biggest problem people make with the notion of "space" is its reification, attempting to make what is essentially a relational concept, into a "thing." As a mathematical abstraction we can locate objects in a coordinate system that we impose, but that does not imply that the coordinate system is itself a physical existent imposed on physical reality.

:rolleyes:

 

Inshallah, I will read up and review on this and contribute to this topic. Its a good topic, although I think that we have discussed it in other threads, with diff. wordings.

[JustCause]

Is good to be back Viking.

 

Paragon, keep up the good work and thanks for making my life easier! I would have had to aurge with him and now you saved me all that time.

[Pi]

^^loool

 

Hey Just, dont get too comfortable over there. There's still a chance that you might have to argue with him. What if he says he is the Stephen dude from the other forum. Hmm, though he would have to prove it, but how? I guess he would have to make a post on that forum to prove it? He should start a general thread on that forum about plagiarism in the scientific world.

[Castro]

^ It's high time for this. Plagiarism is no joke.

[Socod_badne]

Originally posted by Khayr:

Is that why the question of

WHAT IS VELOCITY is IGNORED in Physics

and more concentration is given to Acceleration and Motion etc. I'll have to refer to this book that I have, later on this afternoon, inshallah.

 

Man, you crack me up sometimes with your wooly posts. Where did you get what is velocity is ignored?

 

Acceleration is anti-derivative of velocity or rate of change of velocity divided by time. Velocity is displacement divided by time.

 

Nothing is ignored, stop talking about what you barely understand.

[Pi]

Originally posted by Socod_badne:

 

Acceleration is

anti-derivative of velocity

or rate of change of velocity divided by time. Velocity is displacement divided by time.

I thought Acceleration was the derivative (not antiderivative or integral) of a function of Velocity. The "second derivative", in other words. I think Sheekh bum bum is starting to influence you too.

[Socod_badne]

Originally posted by Pi:

quote:Originally posted by Socod_badne:

Acceleration is anti-derivative of velocity or rate of change of velocity divided by time. Velocity is displacement divided by time.

I thought Acceleration was the

derivative

(not antiderivative or integral) of a function of Velocity. The "second derivative", in other words. I think Sheekh bum bum is starting to influence you too.

Oops, velocity is the anti-derivative of acceleration. That's why I aint physics major.

 

Having said, Shiekh is still wrong when he says VELOCITY is 'ignored' in physics. I haven't taken physics course in 3 years and I know that to be totally false.