lol Posted July 4, 2005 Empowering people and not politicians is the answer to Africa's poverty Good intentions to dislodge poverty's tight grip on Africa are welcome and must be well appreciated by every conscientious African who cares to see an end to the continent's long night of hunger, disease and grinding poverty. In Africa we should salute all honest initiatives aimed at helping our neglected continent. We say Viva to Prime Minister Tony Blair's Commission for Africa, Chancellor Gordon Brown's relentless fight to bring as many countries as possible to the African aid's bandwagon, Bob Geldof's Live 8 and his army of world singers and musicians who enthralled the world in the name of mother Africa. We also take off our hats to the audience of millions who responded to the Live 8 call and poured out their pockets and their hearts to Crusade End of Poverty. We do this because in Africa it is the language of singing, music and drumbeat that we understand more than any language. When we are hungry we sing, when we are sick we sing, when death descends on us we sing, when life smiles for us we sing. We always sing, beat the drums and dance. Music and singing are the secret of our existence. This is how we cheated extinction and annihilation. Even when the prime youth of Africa, the manpower of our continent were taken in chains across the Atlantic, they took their drum beats and their music in their hearts, in their heads and in their feet. This is why when the world sings in our name today, we understand the honesty of it and we sing with them. In Africa, we also know that it is our singing and our music that soothes our blues, drives away our melancholy and sends our hungry children to sleep. But our music and our singing bring no money. Now when we see music played, drums beaten and lyrics sang in our name to bring us money, we worry. Because we know money is evil at least in Africa. You see when our hungry children hear our music, and our singing and our lullabies they remember it is sleeping time and they go to bed, but if they learn that music means money, they would stay awake and wait for food. Because they know money buys food. But in Africa, money is like a snake's droppings, everyone hears about it but no one ever sees it. We know it comes from the world to us as aid, as debt, as grants as charity, as food, as medicine. It comes from all over the world. But you know in Africa, our leaders taught us a long time ago that money is evil. They taught us it is the root cause of all wars, diseases and poverty. They said that if money came to our kraals and our abodes, singing would no more help our children and our wives to go to sleep. It will not be enough to give them food and fill their stomachs. No, they will not sleep till they touch the hard cold silver and gold money. And you see in Africa we know sleeping is the therapy of every disease. If someone doesn't sleep he becomes crazy and causes trouble. They even may start fire and burn the whole camp. Therefore, our leaders taught us that since money is very rare like a snake's droppings, the best place to keep it is in their pockets. They also told us once their pockets were full they would send the rest for safekeeping in far away Banks. This is why you see money is like a snake's droppings in our continent, we only hear about it but we never see it. But lately, just very lately, some of our young ones who went to schools and traveled to far away lands told us another story. They told us we have to have money to feed our children. They told us we need money to have schools, hospitals, roads and clean water. They told us that money was not evil and in fact it was not as rare as a snake's droppings after all. They told us to go to our leaders and ask them to build schools, hospitals and roads for us and provide us clean water. And when we told them our leaders became crazy and started beating us, killing us and driving us out of our farms and taking away our animals. This is why in Africa today you can see many wars, burnings and killings. This is why we are worried when we hear Tony Blair, George Bush, Bob Geldof and other good intentioned people talking about money coming to us. We don't want more wars, more killings, and more burnings. We want to thank all for your generosity. Please don't give us money. Keep it in your far away banks. We will tell you what we want. We want our children to have good education like your children, so we need schools. We want medicine to treat our sick like you do, so we need hospitals. We want to send our products to far away markets so that we can get books and pencils for our schools, medicine for our hospitals and tools for our farms, so we need good roads and harbors and airports. We need clean water and electricity. This is what we want Mr. Blair, Mr. Bush and Sir Geldof. Singing is our faculty, music is our soul, drumming is our tradition. This is what we know best. This is our language over the centuries. We sing to send our hungry children to sleep, you sing to make money. Money in Africa Sir is as rare as snake's droppings and evil. It should be kept away from good people like us and be held tight in the hands of our leaders. Please don't give us money, just give us the means so our children could sleep in peace with our lullabies, go to schools and get medicine. Sir, empower us, the people, and not our leaders. Thank you. Bashir Goth e-mail: bsogoth@yahoo.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haddad Posted July 4, 2005 No. Simply, because Bashir Goth is too secular. There's something wrong with being secular. Secular Muslims aren't assertive, and independent to make their own decisions, opinions or viewpoints. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-Serenity- Posted July 4, 2005 ^ Funny how all your replies are either irrelevant to the topic or concerned with minor technicalities. Grow up. :rolleyes: Excellent points. Totally agree. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lol Posted July 4, 2005 Haddad: Simply someone's view point doesn't coincide with yours doesn't neccessitate for complete disagreements even when point made are quite revelant and sensible. Maybe you should loosen up. His believes are comepletely his but when he offers solutions, we ought to give it a thought.. and if we care about Somalia or Africa in general, having a first hand experience, I would say he made a gr8 point. Or r u involved with an NGO and thus the cut in funds if his views r considered?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sincere Posted July 4, 2005 I dont agree. Please don't give us money. Keep it in your far away banks. We will tell you what we want. We want our children to have good education like your children, so we need schools. We want medicine to treat our sick like you do, so we need hospitals. Nobody is going to waltz in and build an infrastructure for us, we need to take responsibility. It's Wishfull thinking to presume anyone would, and as the saying goes if wishes were horses beggers would ride them. What exactley do they owe us, to undertake such a challenging and arduous task; moral obligation? Appealing to their emotion just doesnt cut it, and is rather tacky to say we want what you have. With terms like "Just give us the means" and "empower us" he is insinuating that we are incapable and lack the competence to cross examine our failures, find the root causes, and fix them. So whats his reasoning, dont give us the money because we are to corrupt and lack moral fiber, but rather come build an infrastructure for us. In any case his appeal to pity/sympathy is merely passing the buck, and he fails to realize it ends at us. P.s the title itself is somewhat conflicting. Are'nt politicians voted by the people for the people, thus they are not solely at fault, we all are collectivley. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lol Posted July 4, 2005 Discreet: Let let me ask u this How long has it been since u read anything about Africa? Coz seriously with you Are'nt politicians voted by the people for the people, thus they are not solely at fault, we all are collectivley. I assume u r one of those Somali make believers who believe that the people just elect the corrupt politicians. U r wrong my friend, yes we r corrupt and we lack the fiber to do anything good for ourselves, so why not face the music? He is rite. Those NGOs who have appealed to the UN to do something for Somalia have swollen their bank accounts with the fundings they were given to make a difference in the lives of the poor, tell me is there any African government that isn't corrupt? Are u implying that all the African people choose those political thugs coz they didn't know any better? U need to listen and watch more on Africa then u will know why we have to let the westerners keep the money in their banks and supervise in the building of infrastructure.. that is the only way the money they have raised is used for the cause. Or else it will end up in the deep pockets of the theives that run our continent just like those before them. Africa doesn't need money, africa needs infrastructure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haddad Posted July 4, 2005 Originally posted by Hibo: His believes I didn't talk about his believes; I talked about his decisions, opinions or viewpoints. His decisions, opinions or viewpoints aren't Somali or African-based; it's Western-based. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sincere Posted July 4, 2005 Walaal Hibo, you misconstrued my point completely. See his whole essay is laying blame solely on the corrupt politicains and even went as far as asking to empower the "good" people. Quintessential Manechian doctrine; Good (people)Vs Evil (politicians). Here's my poor example of transitive argument (law of equality) which is weak, but an appropriate response to his equally very weak argument. (this is what I meant by arent politicians voted by the people for the people and we are collectivley responsible) 1. Corrupt politicians are the cause of our problems 2. We the people vote the corrupt politicians into office 3. Thus we the people are equally responsible for our woes as much as the politicians. In essance he's essay is saying our politicians are corrupt, we dont know better, we cant help ourselves, so keep the money and instead come build our hospitals and schools. Isnt that an admission of $tupidity, acknowledging we are completly useless, incompetent and need westerners to not only fund our infrastructure, but to also supervise and build it. What can we possibly do right by ourselves? I think this article took away any shred of decency we had left. Are u implying that all the African people choose those political thugs coz they didn't know any better? If anyone is implying we didnt know better its the author. What impression do you get from the below paragraph? But lately, just very lately, some of our young ones who went to schools and traveled to far away lands told us another story. They told us we have to have money to feed our children. They told us we need money to have schools, hospitals, roads and clean water. They told us that money was not evil and in fact it was not as rare as a snake's droppings after all. They told us to go to our leaders and ask them to build schools, hospitals and roads for us and provide us clean water. And when we told them our leaders became crazy and started beating us, killing us and driving us out of our farms and taking away our animals. This is why in Africa today you can see many wars, burnings and killings P.s. Rest assured walaal im very informed and cognizant of the events that transpire in Africa. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites