OGUN, THE PHILOSOPHY AND THE CONNECTION WITH GREEK PHILOSOPHY AND PANTHEON!

[Liqaye]

"The Forge of Vulcan" and was painted by Diego Velazquez. It represents the Roman blacksmith god - Vulcan, called Hephaistos by the Greeks. Ogun is our African Orisha counterpart to Vulcan. He is the Orisha of metals and metal-working. That is the reason that the otan or stone of Ogun lives in a metal cauldron and his implements are made or iron or steel. Since iron working began in the iron age, we tend to believe that our Ogun preceded Vulcan and Hephaistos, since these cultures developed well after the bronze age. Just another example of how universal energies manifest in different culture at different times.

[nuune]

^^^trully said,Ogun is the Orisha of iron and metals.

He is responsible for all things mechanical.

Many people think of Ogun only in terms of weapons of war, because he is a fierce warrior. But Ogun also makes implements for farming and medicine; like the surgeon's scalpel.

His symbol is the knife.

His number in some Lucumi houses is 7, others use 3.

His colors are green and black.

His feast day is June 29th.

 

 

the other guy who is Osun is the staff of Osanyin, who is the Orisha

of herbs and herbal healing.

He lives in the forest, and does not speak.

He is represented standing on one leg.

 

many people still follow this Osun,once they came across u,u will see them standing on one leg

[Zaylici]

As student and admirer of human philosophy and cultures, I wish if you could elucidate what Ogun stands for and all other things that are related to this ancient god.

You seem to be expert in these matters and that delights me or shall say it wildly excites me whenever someone discuss on the matters of cultural manifestations and related topics.

[Liqaye]

Now ogun as the template for greek mythology?!!!!

 

 

There is a picture of Hephaistos ( vulcan)throwing his net over Aphrodite and Ares in front of Zeus and the other Olympians. Aphrodite, goddess of love, was having an affair with Ares, the god of war. Aphrodite was the legitmate wife of Hephaistos. Sounds like the love triangle of Ogun, Oya and Chango. Basic story with slight alterations in characters involved. It could well be that this Greek myth was descended from the story of Chango stealing the wife of Ogun. After all, Chango was a great warrior and indeed loved war. Interesting to speculate, but of course, there is no scientific proof.

 

And ogun worship in the catholisim

 

In the Candomble traditions, Ogun is identified with Saint George. This is easy to understand, since St. George in pictures is usually seen as a knight in armor, carrying a lance, subduing a dragon. We imagine that seeing a Catholic Saint all in metal, one of the attributes of Ogun would make one identify this Orisha with Saint George. Since he is carrying a metal lance in his hand and obviously overcoming his enemy, this also reinforces the reasoning behind identifying Ogun with St. George.

 

OGUN on corruption:

 

The termites that would eat the kingdom

First built their nest

In the loin-cloth of the king (p. 13)

4. The gods that show remorse ley claims to man's

Forgiveness -- a founder-king shall dare no less (p. 14)

5. Bid all beware the scorpion in the thatch --

His cunning lacks all shame

Make note of the dealer in death

A stink of the hyena, gorged in carrion. (p. 15)

6. I know -- who more than I? the trade

of courtiers thrives on fawning... (p. 16)