Diano vs Deni

[maakhiri1]

Deni is a bad omen for Pl, the sooner he is removed the better. 

Where did acting President,  tries to visit her constituency,  even if you don't approve, there are other ways to raise disapproval,   don't resort to unnecessary violence  and killings?

Why 15 people died for now?

 

[Arafaat]

Allah ha u naxariisto masakiinta meesha ku dhimatay.

I think this is an unfortunate and unintended incident and not as politically charge as it might seem. Cause this isn’t the first time that similar incidents have occurred around fededal officials visiting regional states. it seems there is a lack of structural and clear lines of communication and coordination between the two layers.

These recurring misunderstandings can be easly solved if federal government would have  a low key official in each state, finetuning communication and logistical arrangements between federal government and regions. Call it regional representative, commissioner, logistical officer, or whatever but there needs to be a clear entry point responsible for fine tuning and smoothing communication and coordination of logistics and those sort of things with regional officials. 

Preferably someone with excellent social and communication skills, who is familiar with locality, with a modest posture and doesn’t feel urges to asserting authority, status or power but employs DIPLOMACY to get things done. 

[maakhiri1]

 

[maakhiri1]

2 hours ago, Arafaat said:

Allah ha u naxariisto masakiinta meesha ku dhimatay.

I think this is an unfortunate and unintended incident and not as politically charge as it might seem. Cause this isn’t the first time that similar incidents have occurred around fededal officials visiting regional states. it seems there is a lack of structural and clear lines of communication and coordination between the two layers.

These recurring misunderstandings can be easly solved if federal government would have  a low key official in each state, finetuning communication and logistical arrangements between federal government and regions. Call it regional representative, commissioner, logistical officer, or whatever but there needs to be a clear entry point responsible for fine tuning and smoothing communication and coordination of logistics and those sort of things with regional officials. 

Preferably someone with excellent social and communication skills, who is familiar with locality, with a modest posture and doesn’t feel urges to asserting authority, status or power but employs DIPLOMACY to get things done. 

it is not communication issue, it is very short sighted political issue

[Qurac&qansax]

4 hours ago, galbeedi said:

Anyway, 20 military men dying for for few cartons of biscuits tells a lot about Deni and Puntland itself. 

Galbeedi, i agree with you 100%. 

Dani, waa reer qardho madax adag. This woman iyaduna khalad bay ka fahantay her new found Role.

Laakiin in ta ay ciidan Maleeshiyaad ah jiraan for fee, this problem waa soo noqnoqayaa. Diyaano family is the cancer in puntland right now.

[Qurac&qansax]

9 hours ago, maakhiri1 said:

^^Caqligu ma kii Deni uun baa, what are you all smoking? Deputy speaker ,.who is from PL, came back to her people,  with some donations,

 

3 hours ago, maakhiri1 said:

Where did acting President,  tries to visit her constituency,  even if you don't approve, there are other ways to raise disapprova

 

32 minutes ago, maakhiri1 said:

it is not communication issue, it is very short sighted political issue

 

Maakhiri, i think you misunderstood what has happend there. Let me give you an example.

 

Imagine Donald Trump as president of USA, who does not get along with NY Mayor who is Democratic. Donald not only is he the president but he resides NY so he want to come back home. Instead of using the US Security service or NYPD he called Broad Brothers, an outlaw Mafia or gangs for his secuirty details. NY mayer told Donald if you want to use these guys you are not wellcome and Maakhiri who is support of Donald went to the Media and claimed " Where did President, trying to visit his constituency with some donation refused entry...Caqligu ha shaqeeyo and so on" 

Do  yo see Maakhir, what you talking about is not the issue. This women was in Garoowe two weeks ago. No one returned her plane, no one refused entry and so on. And my source are telling me, even this time she was allawed for entry to bosaaso but without her so called "gift" and she refused.

[Shurwac]

Puntland o buskut isku dagaashay. Hooyo Federal xage lo wataa - it was Farmaajo’s fault now HSM

Next move, Puntland o xiirirka u jartay dawlada Federal ka ah “Buskut Dhiiq” dartiis. TPLF designed Qabiil federalism in progress...
 

 

[baala xoofto]

8 hours ago, Arafaat said:

Allah ha u naxariisto masakiinta meesha ku dhimatay.

I think this is an unfortunate and unintended incident and not as politically charge as it might seem. Cause this isn’t the first time that similar incidents have occurred around fededal officials visiting regional states. it seems there is a lack of structural and clear lines of communication and coordination between the two layers.

These recurring misunderstandings can be easly solved if federal government would have  a low key official in each state, finetuning communication and logistical arrangements between federal government and regions. Call it regional representative, commissioner, logistical officer, or whatever but there needs to be a clear entry point responsible for fine tuning and smoothing communication and coordination of logistics and those sort of things with regional officials. 

Preferably someone with excellent social and communication skills, who is familiar with locality, with a modest posture and doesn’t feel urges to asserting authority, status or power but employs DIPLOMACY to get things done. 

It is not as simple as that. What has few cartons of Aid even do for anyone? probably if this was allowed to proceed, no one would have even noticed it. 

The issue is deeper than meets the eye. It is related to internal strive inside Puntland's clans. Apparently Sacdiya is not from the 3 main clans that rotate power in Puntland. She may have her own political agenda, but also the respond from Deni is equally hostile. 

The Deni vs Diano issue is also at play here. This issue started from the word go when Deni beat Diano by 1 single vote back in 2019.

Deni is from lesser Caste subclan than Diano as far as Puntland's pecking order is concerned. He feels that Deni doesn't deserve to be President since he is from a lower Caste subclan than he is. Diano has the support of his uncle Boqor Burhan as well as other clan elders such as Sacdiya's clan. This gives him enormous political power in Bosaso.

Deni danced on the heads of many snakes and burnt a lot of bridges. He is reaping the fruits now, he is not gonna get any respite either as next year is an election year in Puntland where Garowe clan want their turn secured. Hence, Garowe itself my start to feel hotter for him to stay come early next year. 

 

[Qurac&qansax]

Madaxweyne kuxigeenka Puntland oo qaaday talaabo uga sii dareysa xaaladda Boosaaso.

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Crash oo shaqo joojin ku sameeyay laba wasiir, Deni ma aqbali doonaa!!!!

[Duufaan]

There are some similarities between Deni and Sacdiya. Sadiya si talking about the puntland cast system. Garoowe is ruled by Faroole people but Deni have a problem in Boosaaso.

[Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar]

Reer Faroole iyo Gaas are blaming xildhibaanad Sacdiya:

[Arafaat]

13 hours ago, baala xoofto said:

It is not as simple as that. What has few cartons of Aid even do for anyone? probably if this was allowed to proceed, no one would have even noticed it. 

The issue is deeper than meets the eye. It is related to internal strive inside Puntland's clans. Apparently Sacdiya is not from the 3 main clans that rotate power in Puntland. She may have her own political agenda, but also the respond from Deni is equally hostile. 

The Deni vs Diano issue is also at play here. This issue started from the word go when Deni beat Diano by 1 single vote back in 2019.

Deni is from lesser Caste subclan than Diano as far as Puntland's pecking order is concerned. He feels that Deni doesn't deserve to be President since he is from a lower Caste subclan than he is. Diano has the support of his uncle Boqor Burhan as well as other clan elders such as Sacdiya's clan. This gives him enormous political power in Bosaso.

Deni danced on the heads of many snakes and burnt a lot of bridges. He is reaping the fruits now, he is not gonna get any respite either as next year is an election year in Puntland where Garowe clan want their turn secured. Hence, Garowe itself my start to feel hotter for him to stay come early next year. 

 

I get that the Deni and Diani issue is still unresolved, but nevertheless this latest incident could have easily been prevented as neither had actually intended going to war or inflict so many casualties on one another at this moment on this issue. Similar incidents can easily repeat itself between regional and federal officials, even in other states, if there is no structural coordination, communication and diplomacy between the federal and regional officials. 

[Duufaan]

1 hour ago, Arafaat said:

I get that the Deni and Diani issue is still unresolved, but nevertheless this latest incident could have easily been prevented as neither had actually intended going to war or inflict so many casualties on one another at this moment on this issue. Similar incidents can easily repeat itself between regional and federal officials, even in other states, if there is no structural coordination, communication and diplomacy between the federal and regional officials. 

This has nothing to do about communication. Hassan and Hamza did not even set up their government. He did not presented his federal state plan yet.

Remeber  Sacdiya was hand-picked by Deni for him to achieve his goals in moqdisho. She became the highest putland parliamentary achiever. It was a very symbolic gesture from Sacdiya who was able to get some small food from moqdisho. She was also useful the fight to remove Farmaajo for them.

This has to do with two things.

1) Deni and Faroole want the donors to come Garoowe directly and only their close people to manage

2) Maintain the status quo and stay away moqdisho government as usual after losing the PM competition this time.

In conclusion

For Deni and Faroole the 15 people who died in the incident are worth stopping these types of interference as they see it. They probably congratulating each other for now.

 

[Samafal]

You got to love how some are sensationalising this unfortunate incident. The whole shoot out lasted for mere 20 minutes and killed 12 young men and that is the tragedy of this whole situation. Deni and the leaders of Puntland must make a priority to end this independent rogue militia that developed in Bosaaso once and for all. However you are against Dani you can not allow a parallel government and warlordism take root in this peaceful region of Somalia. The result will be decades of waring factions more like those that existed in Mogadishu. It is not in the best interest of any one.  

[Qurac&qansax]

HSM is showing good leadership.

 

as soon he landed, he get to gother Hamsa, Sacdiyo and put Deni on the phone. Waa ka tacsideeyay wixii dhacay wuuna la balamay Deni, in u imaanayo Puntland. Sacdiyo wuxuu ku amray in ay media ha la hadlin si arinta loo qaboojiyo. It is good start. Much better than Farmaajo time where he used to ignore this kind of things.

 

Dhamaan Puntland Intellectual and former leaders put the blame on Sacdiyo, except Ina Abdirashiid oo weli ka xun Deni tartankii uu la galay ee xamar.

 

Waxaan weli hadlin Abdishakuur, sababta deeqda uu ugu dhiibay sacdiyo ee uusan puntland toos ula xiriirin. Wuxuu mudan yahay in isla lala xisaabtamo