Paragon Posted June 16, 2002 Scholars have always differed in theory of what "knowledge" is. Some say knowledge is gained following the process of education and that the Education is not knowing but a system with which you have to follow to gain knowledge. Many have also argued that knowledge can be or is gained without going through the system of Education. Others argue that knowledge is not as formal as Education and that what some call knowledge is experiance, and can be dismissed as informal and unnecessary. I think Education is the process which transports you to Knowledge, which means that it is a preperation that transports you to the know-how of a SUBJECT or a SKILL. I believe Knowledge can also come under what the secular society considers as informal Education. I have heard a debate about this topic before and as simple as it may sound, it goes far when some scholars discuss this topic. Some of you might say Education is Education and knowledge is knowledge. But i am not sure of that. So what is your undersanding of these two terms(Education and Knowledge) ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCORPION_SISTA Posted June 18, 2002 loooooooooool jamaal 11 i didn't know i effected u this much mate(just kidding), i cann't actually believe u posted it as a topic, but it is all good. i guess u already heard my opinion before so maybe i don't need to say anything further. p.s. it seems this topic is only understood or liked by philosophical peepz. i wonder what happened to shaqsii, he might have a thing or two to say here. i guess that's my 1 1/2 cents comment on this issue. peace Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paragon Posted June 18, 2002 SCORPION SISTA lol Dont you think this song is about you lol Well, when i raised this issue with you, i raised it coz i was discussing it with a friend before i joined the chat-room. My discussions with you were meant to gather more opinions into this topic. This topic is older than even me and you but i guess you can think that you've contributed to it already lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dhimbil Posted June 19, 2002 sup, J I kind of agree with you on this & Oxford Dictionary agrees with us, lol seriously i think education is the process of training the mind,informing or teaching the mind, but on the other hand Knowledge is something you gain through experience or learn from someone else who went throught that experience, its consciousness, understanding of things. peace Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paragon Posted July 17, 2002 Sup Illmatic.. Yes you are right bro. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xafsa Posted July 18, 2002 I think education and knowledge are some how connected. Knowledge is what stays with you through out your life time...where education is the process of gaining more knowledge. Anyonecan get an education...but the knowledgeyou aquire is unique to each individual. peace Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paragon Posted July 18, 2002 Xafsa true that. The problem is, we have people who called themselves "educated" and there are those who are truly "knowledgable". So does education mean qualification or a routine, or is it knowledge in a recognised and formal(western) way? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nuune Posted July 20, 2002 to me,i cannot differenciate,it is like aqoon iyo cilmi or whatever... education is something you learnt but can get lost. knowledge is somethiing u got somewhere but will last until aad habeen jimcaad tiir ku boodo(aad dhimato)!! help,that was the worst description i have ever posted!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blessed Posted July 21, 2002 Salaams my dears, I agree with Jamaal in this one. Education is a means of gainning recogniotion for ones knowledge in a certain field, in the common view that is. Education basically is learning. Whereas knwledge is knowing, we may know things inately, we maybe educated in something but not entirely comprehend it.. hence know it! I find it quite disturbing at the level of stature we give to educated folk, whilst undrminning the knowledge of those who may not be educated be very knoledgable. I know poeple who have Masters, degrees but who are also a little on the dim side when it comes to issues out of their specialised filds. Anyow, in Somaali Education = waxbarasho Knowlege = Aqoon I suppose that just about sums it up. I am in no way trying to undermine the importance of education here .......... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diaspora_Dude Posted August 23, 2002 It's hard at first glimse to differentiate both but if you take closer look they are both inter-connected. Knowledge is the intellectual experience that a person receives during his/her educational and working years. On the other hand, education is the process and the means of increasing ones intellectual experience in other words education is the physical concept that people go through in order to acquire and broaden their thinking and problem solving strategies. :cool: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Goathurter Posted August 25, 2002 i think education is what you learn and knowledge is what you gain while you learning 'n they both kind same to me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Khayr Posted May 26, 2003 Salamz, Was checking the old archives and saw this thread inshallah. Knowledge and Education-Is there a difference? How do we measure them? Do we give them the same method of measurements? Which one is higher? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coloow Posted May 26, 2003 salaama, I kind of agree with the many people who replied to this thread. Knowledge is usually divided into codified knowledge (which comes as a result of education) and tacit knowledge (which is the outcome of experience based non codified). Education is the process of achieving codified knowledge through a process of learning. I want to illustrate this with two examples: 1: Imagine the somali mother of 12. Obviously she is knowledeable than many PHD- holders in the art of birth giving and fostering- but she can not write(codify) how the process evolves. she is therefore knowledgeable but not educated (literally)! another good example that is often cited is the riding a bicycle (many of us can ride it but we don't know how) 2: education comes as a result of knowledge that is taught. Actually another word for it is "learning through the intake of codified knowledge". Take the example of maths ..unless you go to school and practice you would be able to do a simple equation! So knowledge is a double edged sword- tacit knowledge and codified (which comes as a result of education)! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muhammad Posted May 26, 2003 Interesting topic! Learning What cannot be Taught Once upon a time, there lived in Basra an old man whose only occupation was caring for and loving his only son who was a handsome young man. The old man invested all his money on his son's education. The young man went away for a few years and acquired an education at a well known university under the great scholars of that age. The day had arrived for the son to return from his studies and the old man waited at the door for his son. When the son came and met his father, the old man looked into his eyes and felt great disappointment. "What have you learnt my son?" he asked, "I have learnt everything there was to be learnt, father", he said. "But have you learnt what cannot be taught?" asked the father. "Go, my son and learn what cannot be taught", said the old man. The young man went back to his master and asked him to teach him what cannot be taught. "Go away to the mountains with these four hundred sheep and come back when they are one thousand", said the master. The young man went to the mountains and became a shepherd. There for the first time he encountered a silence. He had no one to talk to. The sheep did not understand his language. In his desperation, he would talk to them but they would look back at him as if to say he was stupid. Slowly but surely he began to forget all his worldly knowledge, his ego, his pride and he became quiet like the sheep and great wisdom and humility came to him. At the end of two years when the number of sheep had grown to one thousand, he returned to his master and fell on his feet. "Now you have learnt what cannot be taught," said the master. Ps. It is interesting to note that the Nabis of Allah Taala (Alayhimus salaam) at some time in their lives, generally before Nubuwwat, tended to sheep, and other such animals. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mz-alpha-soup Posted May 27, 2003 assalam aleikum pple.. I do think knowledge is an inbuilt skill that cannot be taught but gained as we all go through life...i say this because ma dad and mum never went to school but the knowledge and willingess to learn that is engraved in them made them able to reach higher goals and achieve what they wanted in life... On the other hand education is a set curriculum that we all go thru depending on what course we take, so that we are able to get good jobs in future to support our families.. Education without knowledge can never outweigh the two put together.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites