BOB Posted January 13, 2005 The Hague - A plot to murder Ayaan Hirsi Ali, the Dutch lawmaker of Somali origin who is a leading critic of radical Islam, has been uncovered in the course of the investigation into the assassination of film-maker Theo van Gogh, the daily De Telegraaf said on Wednesday. Hirsi Ali co-wrote the script for van Gogh's movie Submission, dealing with the oppression and abuse of women under Islam, that led to his murder on November 2 by a suspected Islamic radical. Under tight police protection, she was reported to be planning a sequel to the movie and writing a book targeted at Muslims. De Telegraaf said a document was found during a police raid on an apartment in Amersfoort that was searched as part of an anti-terrorism swoop. It added that the plan was to assassinate Hirsi Ali on New Year's Eve when the sound of shots would have been masked by the noise of fireworks. Although she herself and her party have said she will soon return to parliament, her whereabouts were not known. Some reports said the Dutch army took her to the United States for her own protection following van Gogh's murder. The alleged killer, Mohammed Bouyeri, is a Dutch citizen of Moroccan origin. Hirsi Ali, 34, who is herself a Muslim,(wee riddisay, so she isn't muslim anymore) fled to Holland in 1992 to escape a forced marriage arranged by her father. PS. May Allah (S.W) Guide Us All Through The Right Path.Aamiin Ya Rabbi. Peace, Love & Unity. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RendezVous Posted January 13, 2005 Hi all, I have been reading about your comments for long but was asking myself what Van+Ayaan hirsi were claiming as ANTI-ISLAM.... As a muslim and a somali for that matter, I would first of all say thank to all of you who posted comments here whether Insulting or With some guidance for the lot that is misguided. I came across 'ISSUES' concerning what the DEPUTY AYAAN said about THE ABUSE OF MUSLIM WOMEN...and her subsequent SUBMISSION film.She really confused with this two words:- ISLAM AND SOMALI CULTURE... ISLAM respects women and even went ahead dedicated a whole verse in the HOLY quraan discussing about Women, both married and singles, mothers and so on....If you want to read truthfully what ISLAM and our religion's position is about WOMEN generally Please see this website http://www.iad.org/books/S-women.html or http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/4482/articles.html or even how to make your man/woman happy in islam.... http://www.jannah.org/sisters/wifehappy.html THE FOLLOWING ARE SOME OF THE VERSES IN THE HOLY QURAAN. Search Results The condition of women before Islam: Islam came at a time when women all over the world were being oppressed and exploited. The most any society would accord the woman was to admit that she was part of the human race. They never admitted her dignity or gave her rights and responsibilities equal to those of men. The Greeks considered her to be an object of pleasure and amusement. This view was articulated in the text of Deemo Stayn: He said: “We take prostitutes for pleasure, lovers to care for our daily health, and wives to give us legitimate children.†The Romans gave the father and husband the right to sell her to whomever they pleased. The Arabs gave the son the right to inherit the wife of his father (not his own mother) just like he would inherit his father’s wealth and his steed! That is if she were lucky enough not to have been buried alive at birth. This was the case with the rest of the world’s societies, like the Persians and the Hindus. Women remained in this horrible state without protesting or rebelling against it. No one else was to do so either. Nor were there any social or economic developments that would require a betterment of her status. Then Islam came, proclaiming her rights and her equality with men. It established for her all of her rights to bring her out of the miserable state that she was in and elevate her to the noble status that she deserves. How did this happen? Equality Between Men and Women in Islam: Islam establishes the principle of equality between men and women in all aspects of life that they are equal in, because both of them are equally human. It distinguishes between them in some areas, taking into consideration the natural differences between them and the special qualities that each of them has. The areas of equality are as follows: 1. Equality in their human origins: Islam conclusively establishes that all human beings have a common origin. This fact is mentioned in many verses of the Qur’ân: “O Mankind, fear your Lord who created you from a single soul and created from it its mate and brought forth from the two of them many men and women.†“O Mankind, verily we created you from A MALE AND A FEMALE and made you into nations and tribes so you may know one another. Verily the most honorable of you with Allah are the most righteous.†2. Equality in their destiny: Islam also establishes that all of mankind is going to return to Allah who created them, and everyone – male and female – is going to be recompensed for his or her worldly deeds. They will receive well if they did good and they will be requited with evil if they did evil. Allah says: “And every one of you(MALE OR FEMALE) will come to Him alone on the Day of Resurrection.†Allah says: “A human being will have nothing except for what he does. And his deeds will be seen. Then he will be recompensed fully.†Allah says: “So their Lord accepted of them their supplication and answered them: ‘I will never allow the work of any of you to be lost, MALE OR FEMALE. You are from each other.†Allah says: “Whoever works righteousness as a believer, whether MALE OR FEMALE, we will truly give a good life and We shall pay them a reward in proportion to the best of what they used to do.†So please note that there is almost all rights given to a muslim woman as a man.If someone is beating his woman or child(girl), Then this is not ISLAM..and should not claim this is ISLAM. You can e-mail me free for more ISLAMIC matters at dalahow1@yahoo.co.uk. Ibraheeem's Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strawberry_Xu Posted January 14, 2005 Goodness, everyone knows she's only doing things to get attention. Nobody, especially an MP, comes out with comments like that if they didn't want to stir things up or have a reasonable debate. She's not interested in debate, but in furthering her own agenda. Honestly, the only reason muslims pay attention to her idiotic comments, is because a large number of Dutch non-muslims are taking her words for gospel. Still, I don't want muslims killing her or someone else either. God knows what will happen when someone decides to make a martyr out of her. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RendezVous Posted January 14, 2005 >>>>>>The twist will twist this time round. :)or is it the other way sis Xu. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wiilo Posted January 14, 2005 Honestly that woman is already dead to me, why are we even talking about her? She just wants to get some attention that is all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BOB Posted January 14, 2005 Something For This Lost Soul Named Ayan Xirsi. we live in times when people want to wear masks over their familiar faces instead of being the individual that we were made by Allah when we were born why should your actions reflect someone that you're not Miss Ayan? what they do is their story, you're not even the main character in the plot they are just using you to get at us (Muslims) people say actions are much louder than words but if you don't say anything different "Your" voice will never be heard the goal is to make yourself understood without offending anyone & everyone and let your genuine thoughts be known you don't have to change your voice but just use another tone that is yours don't ever want to be a frozen face in a crowd if you have to stand by yourself and do things to be loud but saying something against Islam and disrespecting the Holy Prophet is the biggest sin in the eyes of the Good Lord a worldly attention wont do you any good you should seek reward in the day of Khiyama you should seek the blessings of Allah instead of selling your soul to the devil just to please few faithless Kufaars for a few fake praises that wont get you anywhere. May Allah Guide Us All Through The Righteous Path. Peace, Love & Unity. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xafsa Posted January 14, 2005 Originally posted by Wiilo: Honestly that woman is already dead to me, why are we even talking about her? She just wants to get some attention that is all. Exactly...why the obsession with this woman??? GEt over it..move on!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Passion_4_Fashion Posted January 14, 2005 ^^^wlc back girl Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shirwac Posted January 14, 2005 She is a merely a token for a racist government seaking to justify their views/actions against foriegners and muslims. She doesn't understand what she (is) did/doing, in a recent tv interview she asked " why do I hide". DAMN %SS Letting her live in hiding is more painful, to me, then death. AIDS alla kugu rid. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tuujiye Posted January 14, 2005 Waraada aniga iyo Nuune iyo qac'qac beeso u aruuriya..anagaa saqar suujineynee si suujimo ah wili..... wareer badanaa!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nomen nescio Posted January 15, 2005 I cant care less for that *** .. niethir you should Bob.,,, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diamante Posted January 15, 2005 AIDS alla kugu rid. :eek: acuudu bilaah!....all this hatred, can it be any worse people? whatever she is doing, it's between her and her Creator. So go and spend all that energy in a postive way...instead of wasting topics on her. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xafsa Posted January 15, 2005 Originally posted by Jilaato_Cambo: ^^^wlc back girl Thank you sweety! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wiilo Posted January 15, 2005 Waraada soo duceeya Salaada Eida markaa dukataan afar faataxo soo aqriya in Allaah ka qabto Islamka oo cudur aan la aqoon ku dhaco Aamiin. Go figure:.................. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nomen nescio Posted January 15, 2005 ^^^ wouldnt it be better if we pray in oo ilaahay so hadeeyo!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites