Russia Invades Ukraine

[Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar]

 

[Che -Guevara]

 

[Tallaabo]

Waaryaa Che have you nominated yourself to become SOL's war correspondent? The Western leaders are yelling about this invasion of Ukraine as if their own near past is clean of any sin. They should be gently reminded that it was not long ago when they invaded and destroyed Iraq- a sovereign nation and a UN member state. Russia protested that unprovoked Western aggressions at the UN Security Council but no one heeded their outcry. 

[galbeedi]

THe problem is Ukraine has a comedian ( Aw Kuku) as president. He was told for over a month about the incoming invasion, yet he hasn't prepared his army to delay and make the Russian invasion difficult. 

I see low flying helicopters that could easly be shot down, I see tanks strolling highways  and rasing without fear. Trenches could have been built anlong the invasion routes, anti tank and personell mines spread out through the Russian entry pointed. 

The Ukrainian army is one of the largest in eastern Europe after Russia. Despite the air striles and missiles, the Russians will have tough time to hold Ukraine. This is a large country of 42 million people, and with the full support of the western powers and NATO, Russia could be bogged down in protracted war.

Anyway, how foolish were the Ukranian leadership to fal on the proxi war between the Russia and NATO.

[galbeedi]

If Ukraine slows down the Russian just for weeks, things could get bad for Putin.

Here in central Alberta, we have the largest Ukrainian population outside Ukraine, that is why Canada is fully supporting Ukraine.

For me, my biggest hope is that  the Russian quagmire in Ukraine  might free 80 million people in central Asia which Putin considers to be  his sphere of influencence. Kasakhstan, Uzbekistan, Krgystan, Tajikistan, Turmenistan, Azebaijan and Beyond could be free nations with huge resources.

[Che -Guevara]

10 hours ago, Tallaabo said:

Waaryaa Che have you nominated yourself to become SOL's war correspondent? The Western leaders are yelling about this invasion of Ukraine as if their own near past is clean of any sin. They should be gently reminded that it was not long ago when they invaded and destroyed Iraq- a sovereign nation and a UN member state. Russia protested that unprovoked Western aggressions at the UN Security Council but no one heeded their outcry. 

Sxb, we live in interesting times and evolving world. You are right the hypocrisy of the West is there for everybody to see from supporting TPLF to invading Somalia, destroying Libya, Iraq, Syria, etc.

There are changes to come. If Putin can't win, he will make sure Europe is inundated with refugees. Poland allowed Muslim refugees to freeze to death. Let's see how long they can accommodate Ukranians as Putin's war will displace millions.

 

[Che -Guevara]

1 hour ago, galbeedi said:

If Ukraine slows down the Russian just for weeks, things could get bad for Putin.

Putin will simply level cities and make sure large swathes of the country are depopulated. 

[Che -Guevara]

 

[maakhiri1]

Galbeedi, it is completely mismatch of the powers, Russia  have satellites and those area you see with helicopter,  they already know what is out there.

Also, they want this quick ,  they are focusing and closing in on Kyiv, they don't want to do big damage,  as they wanna annex whole Ukraine,  at this rate Kyiv will fall in next few days.

[Che -Guevara]

 

[galbeedi]

Of course the Russians are more powerful, but modern warfare is mostly air power. These days tanks are nothing but a slow moving target, if Nato provides to Ukraine shoulder held anti tank missiles, these tanks strolling inside villages could be destroyed. Furthermore, the Russians didn't reach any of their goals for the last 48 hours.

The casuality of the Russians are very high already, about 450. I saw their airborne asault on the airpirt which is very dangerous without securing the perimeter. They did take the airport , but were repulsed and retaken by the Ukranian defence forces. 

Yesterday they were targeting radars and air defence locations, but today, they were targeting and bombing civilian targets like hospitals and high rise appartments which means desperation. THey are looking a quick surrender, but if this thing drags on, as Che said, they might use more civilian bombing and level down cities.

We hope this could be the graveyard of the Ruskies and Putin. Kust a hope.

 

 

[galbeedi]

By the way, the  other thing that most of us missed was how the warning of the US and UK for months and days were just brushed off by everyone. THe British said that the invasion could start any moment, Biden kept saying the invasion is about to happen, yet most of us didn't take those statements very seriously. Even the president of Ukraine said, " stop the panik, I am the president and if there is war, I would be the first to know".

It seems that the Russians might have leaked their intensions to the Americans .Putin made them lool them like the " kid who cried wolf", and then invade while denying this for weeks. 

Because of the American lie in Iraq, the disasterous withdrawl from Afghanistan, and their false alarm in Addis Abbaba few months ago, made them unreliable. The Americans and the west need to get back their credibility so when they tell their citizens and others of incoming danger we might all believe and act accordingly.

If Ukraine believed what America was saying they would have prepared better to repusle and delay the invasion.

And one more thing. Every nation in danger of huge elephant as neighbor should have a nuclear weapons. Turkey, South Korea, Japan, Indonesia and even Kaskhastan should get their nuclear weapons. Imagine what fondumentalist and arogant India would if Pakistan didn't have nuclear? 

The Ukraninans used to have some nuclear weapons, but the American and others convinced them to let it goby giving them useless guarntee.

 

[galbeedi]

Here is one of my favourite analysts on the Russian adventure:

Russia is aware of its shortcomings. It is trying to cover these through nationalism and expansionism, to deter through threatening discourse, and push the threats directed towards it beyond its borders. Russia will risk going to war for this sake. It will act in accordance with the West and the world order’s weaknesses, and push countries to make mistakes. If it does not do this, that threat will come knocking on Russia’s borders. This means a second division for Russia. Putin is trying to repel, alleviate and thwart any threats against his country by threatening his region and the entire world. 

As I said, the second division of Russia has to come sooner or later. It did hold nations through the Tsarist empire by conquering other nattions and nationalities, then through Soviet Union. Just like former Yugoslavia and soon Ethiopia, Russia has to let go other nations it holds hostage. 

In the next decade, we are all hoping the formation of the Turkic nation stretching from the aegian sea the Chines border. That could only happen if Turkey which is in serious trouble survives after Erdogan is topled.

[maakhiri1]

The saddest part was Ukraine giving up  their share of nuclear weapons, after Soviet collapsed 

Any country to survive,  must nuclearise 

[galbeedi]

6 hours ago, maakhiri1 said:

The saddest part was Ukraine giving up  their share of nuclear weapons, after Soviet collapsed 

Any country to survive,  must nuclearise

The UN charter doesn't mean anything anymore. Get your nuclear.

Yet, war of aggression and pre-emptive war always leads to disaster at the end. The Iraq war had cost USA a great deal. It had fought that war ten thousands miles away , but the effects of that war was deep in terms of blood and treasurer. The credibility of US has tanked and its effects had showed later in its economic position against China.

In 1995, the US trade decfecit against China was as little as 33 billion. After 20 years of  adventure in the middle east the defecit had reached $350 billion. By the time Obama realized and decided to shift to Asia Pacific, it was too late. When US entred the Iraq war in 2003, it had 125 billion decfecit and ten years later it had trippled to 350 billion.

A communist back water in early nineties became the biggest economy of the world in terms parchasing power party (PPP) tofay. 

Today the US is scrambelling to mitigate the incoming Chinese hygemony, thanks partly to its short sideness by flexing muscles to weak nations of the middle east who were not a real threat to  its econmy and security. 

BY the way, we might all complain about American hygemony or domination, but wait till you see the ruthles and Godless eastern powers of China and the evil gas station with nuclear power called Russia. i will prefer US any day against these two. 

Pre-emptive war leads to disaster.