galbeedi Posted February 1, 2022 While third world democracy is full of corruption, nepotism, rigging and other machination to rule for a long time, the Somaliland style is its own league in terms buffoonery, illegal maneuvering and quite ugly stupidity. I know I have used a lot of adjectives to describe the ugly maneuvering of the ruling party Kulmiye, yet at the end it makes the whole project as fake. How can a political party expire? Is there anywhere in the world a political party expires after gaining popular support? some nations have certain thresholds to enter the parliament and claim seats in order to reduce sectarian parties or the fragmentation of the nation. Some have 5% threshold and others up to ten, but there is no way a party could just disappear after winning seats in the parliament. How can a legitimate party who had just secured 30 or more seats in the last election which took place just six months ago has to start from the scratch. THey had municipal and parliamentary elections in May 2021 and both UCID of FAysal WAraabe and Waddani of C/rahman Cirro won the majority of the seats and the mayoral seats of the major cities. Yet, four months later Muuse Biixi said political parties will be dissolved and a new contest will begin. He claims that every ten years the formation of political parties must start and everyone must start from scratch and the top three winners will contest the next presidential elections. Traditionally, the municipal elections or the parliament were the Barometers for the new parties to contest and show their support through seats. That was already done. Most polls in Somaliland show Waddani as the most popular party, and by forming a coalition front with UCID, certainly Muuse Biixi will lose the next election which must take place in November 2022. So, in order to sideline this issue, he created a fake crisis by claiming that every party in Hargeisa will expire next M May 2022 and in order to contest the next presidential election all new and old parties must contest. Another dilemma is how can parties contest without any prices to be win. One must run elections to either win seats in city council, parliament or the president. How can a party measure its support without no price to contest?. Only in Hargeisa. How it is possible for a party that won 30 seats in the parliament just six months ago has to run again for legitimacy again? The opposition was always fragmented due to the shifting positions of Faysal WAraabe and his UCID party who for decades helped Kulmiye win by taking advantage of the division. Finally, this summer the opposition came together and formed a united front to defeat Kulmiye. In order to avoid defeat and create uncertainty and political crisis, Muuse said , " political parties are open" Xisbiyadii waa la Furay". Allright they are , but a presidential context which is due soon must take place first. If ten parties register before the election, plus the existing three, that means they will all contest the presidential parties, while the current rule says only the top three parties could only contest. It is ridiculous. It is a sick joke by Kulmiye. Muuse knows very well he will lose, but as usual, he must manufacture the usual crisis in order to get another extension. For the last 12 months he was riding the Taiwan caravan, and now the fake recognition debate in the British parliament. This people should know that I could contribute few dollars to my local member of parliament, help him canvass few Somali/Canadian doors, and later ask him to bring a bill to recognize the Borama massacres by SNM or narrate the history of the new Adal Republic that want to be independent. It doesn't change much the reality on the ground, but certainly it could generate few headlines and some YOUTUBE discussion. Furthermore, the one-man supreme court, again only in Hargeisa, where the highest court is based by the opinion of one man who already created more confusion than clarity. It boggles the mind that these people can't even copy basic things like courts from around the world. It is becoming more like a fake democracy than one based on rule of law. But hold on, the Hargeisa crowd always measures itself with Al-shabaab infested southern Somalia and say, " Oh we are better than the south-central Somalia" . indeed, you are better, but when are you going to grow? How come this guy couldn't even walk after 30 years? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar Posted February 1, 2022 8 hours ago, galbeedi said: Yet, four months later Muuse Biixi said political parties will be dissolved and a new contest will begin. He claims that every ten years the formation of political parties must start and everyone must start from scratch and the top three winners will contest the next presidential elections. Traditionally, the municipal elections or the parliament were the Barometers for the new parties to contest and show their support through seats. That was already done. Are you serious? How is this possible for Muuse Muqayil to pull? War meesha tuugnimo wey dhaaftee. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
galbeedi Posted February 2, 2022 MMA, He is trying to pull off, but the opposition will not accept this in a million years. He could pay some guys to form new political parties who couldn't even get 5% support, or eat up some of the opposition votes by dividing them. At the end he will back down or the broken boat will sink with everyone on board. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted February 2, 2022 Long live president muse who has somaliland interest at heart. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maakhiri1 Posted February 2, 2022 Madness, beyond comprehension Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
baala xoofto Posted February 3, 2022 Somaliland introduced the idea of having a licence to practice politics just like any other profession that need to be controlled as if it is not checked it has the potential to have negative affect on law and order. This is only required so long the prevailing mindset has not become sophisticated enough to carefully organise the society in terms of interest, need or like-mindedness. Once the society has reached that stage then this law can be ditched. So for those who are baffled by this law, it is no different to a doctor who operated a major brain surgery the day before but had to sit for his license renewal the day after. It happens. So if the 10 year license expires all the political parties will have to renew it. It works for Somaliland and that is what matters. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
galbeedi Posted February 4, 2022 Mr. BX, I welcome your measured and to the point response which is the custom here in SOL. On the issue of renewal of the parties, as tradition dictates, the political parties should have contested the last municipal election to measure how many support a party has in towns , villages and cities. it was complete deception from part Muuse Biixi to hold these elections a year later to concur the so called ten years. it is very strange and unusual to held elections within a year of the other. Besides, how could parties contest without nothing on the line. No one in the real world holds elections for parties to contest without no seats on the line . Xisbiyada ayaa tartamaya keligood aduunka kama dhacdo. Niw if we flow the logic of Muuse Biixi, parties will contest without nothing on the line in May 2022, and five months later another election for the president. That is three consecutive elections in less than two years. He should hold the presidential elections in November and then open the parties for renewal, anything else is power grab and to destroy the opposition Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
baala xoofto Posted February 5, 2022 I agree there is a synchoronisation of elections issue in Somaliland. The delays have costed us a lot of time. But we are not in a hurry, we are learning and we are fixing our problems and in the process making lots of progress. The issue with political party vetting is something that is still up in discussions so I am not going to prejudge. But one thing I would like to say is that, there is nothing set on stone. If Somalilanders vetted their political parties in local council elections, there is nothing stopping us from using a different method of vetting process. In the end, what matters is that the vetting process is clear, free and fair. There is no one that is getting destroyed here. Everyone is on the same boat. It is just matter of opinion and like we always do, we will have our heated disagreements but we will always come together and decide a way forward. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arafaat Posted February 6, 2022 On 2/4/2022 at 4:09 PM, galbeedi said: On the issue of renewal of the parties, as tradition dictates, the political parties should have contested the last municipal election to measure how many support a party has in towns , villages and cities. it was complete deception from part Muuse Biixi to hold these elections a year later to concur the so called ten years. it is very strange and unusual to held elections within a year of the other. Besides, how could parties contest without nothing on the line. No one in the real world holds elections for parties to contest without no seats on the line . Xisbiyada ayaa tartamaya keligood aduunka kama dhacdo. Valid point there! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arafaat Posted February 6, 2022 On 2/5/2022 at 4:19 AM, baala xoofto said: There is no one that is getting destroyed here. Everyone is on the same boat. It is just matter of opinion and like we always do, we will have our heated disagreements but we will always come together and decide a way forward. You are wrong. Holding elections should be done according to precedence in law, as Galbeedi has pointed out. Following existing precedence is justified as it provided predictability, stability, fairness, and efficiency in the law, so that people know what their rights are in particular circumstances, and will not be based on how one ‘feels’ or will be a matter of ‘opinions’. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
galbeedi Posted February 7, 2022 6 hours ago, Arafaat said: so that people know what their rights are in particular circumstances, and will not be based on how one ‘feels’ or will be a matter of ‘opinions’. The opposition fought hard for the last election while waiting over seven years of Ahmed Siilaany. Add probably another six years of Biixi, that is a life time for a Somali opposition to wait for their turn to rule. To create crisis and unnecessary obsticles when the presidential election is just months away is nothing but a day light roberry. I don't think any opposition which have been ready to contest within the next six months would accept to be fragmented with bogus opening of parties. Hold the bext ellection which is due within seven months and then organize municipal elections in two or three years in order for them to serve full year. Again, there is no precedent where political parties contest without nothing to win. When you run a race, you must win atleast a medal. This nothing but a power grab. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted February 7, 2022 Hello galbeedi are u opposition just for the sake of opposition do u really think ucid or wadani would do a much better job for somaliland or are u just opposition for the sake of it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites