Warrior of Light Posted October 3, 2004 Dangerous, Im sorry to hear about the visa complications. Is there a possibility of having a doctor or a health worker visit him at home accompanied with someone he trusts? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Changed Posted October 3, 2004 Sissade: WALAALO I worked with people that had mental disorders few years back; some of them had Bipolar disorder and they had few of the symptoms brother dangerous has mentioned; quit frankly I am not into medicine and I was not trying to diagnose anything I wanted him to look into bipolar disorder and see if he has one of the symptoms. Any who! Dangerous please do something; Quran like someone has mention is the biggest curer of all: Try to take him to a doctor IF he likes it or not; I don’t think listing to him; will make difference right now. ALLAH CAFIYO ONCE AGAIN: AMEEN from what i see u are in wisconsin dont u think its about time u paid a visit to ur cousin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LuCkY Posted October 3, 2004 AsaLaamu ALaikum, I wish I couLd be of some heLp but aLL I can do is keep your cousin in my prayers inshaALLaah. ALLaah Caafiyo and May ALLaah make his Life easier.AmIIN. PEace ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LayZie G. Posted October 4, 2004 Dangerous,you have heard what most of these people have to say, but I think Qu'ran would be your best solution as most of the people here agree on. My babysitter from somali, apparently suffered from demons, atleast thats what I was told by my older siblings at the time. Everything was going normal and one day she just snapped. She was living in her own world for a while, and she didn't make any sense, and my parents did the best they could for her at the time, and that was in lagu aqriyo Qu'ran. My older siblings said that one minute she would talk to herself, behave abnormal, and the next she is her old self, and the next she zonning out again. Masha allah, years of being surrounded by her family and with Qu'ran, she came through, and I am happy to say she is living a normal life now, two wonderful children, great husband, and life is normal for her once again, but when that happened to her it was 15 some odd yrs ago, but with allah's help, Qu'ran worked on her. Somalis back then though it was Jiniyo or something like that, but according to my sister's theory, one minute she is normal, goes to the washroom and fell and she was never the same again.(creepy eh??..but its true story) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rudy-Diiriye Posted October 4, 2004 yo homie this simple thing! hes family connection namean, real blood connection like dad/mom, brotha/sista. way back, i remember this happen to brotha who was like this chap! i was young didnt understand it home problem. but guess what, his bro who brought him to america showed out of no where and put him straight on like an arrow!! all he needed was a blood! u know! nomad relatives cant be fake! today.. u would never thing home freak-out once a upon time!! yo... get some blood 4 him!~ he needs that!! and he like straight like an arrow! even getting him to back to qatar or better somalia..then he will saaxii!! got luck bro!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silent-sistah Posted October 4, 2004 May Allah restore his health and sanity sis,,,Amiiin im real sorry to hear this too sis, and hope it all works out. i have to agree with everyone that says Quran ha lagu akhriyo. see, since he so successful, maybe some1 did black magic on him, or he got the eye,,,,u know the evil eye,,,someone didnt say MashaAllah when talking about him....i dont know sis, maybe he has got one of the psychotic conditions mentioned,,,,but either way,, get a shaikh to examin him, the shaikh will tell u if he is possessed, poissoned or needs a doc. best luck sis. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sheherazade Posted October 4, 2004 Dangerous, we're most of us ill-informed about mental illness and what it entails. Except for a couple of us here who know what they're talking about medically, the rest of can end up giving u information that may not be useful or correct. I suggest you go and talk with somebody at the mosque and ask for advice. Can some reading be done for him without him being there for instance? If so, request for it. Also, go find a medical expert and tell him of your cousin's symptoms. You need to know how to handle him without alienating him or adding to his distress. As for you, you have some responsibility toward him and are doing well to stick around. Many will not. Acknowledge his distress- his fear etc-but not the delusions themselves. I understand how devastating it can be to watch someone deteriorate. Do what you can and create some boundaries- hours on the phone will have negative consequences on you too, tell him u have to go to work, study, sleep, he needs to keep hearing of the real reality. Let him know that you will be there for him. See if u can get him out of the house and in your company. Mosques are almost always a refuge for those who're suffering this way. Suggest going to Friday prayers together if you can. I have given you my advice as I have some idea of what you face but please, talk to the experts. P.S: a thought. The Internet spreads information quickly. It is not beyond imagination that some clumsy person might recognise your cousin from your description and allow this information to reach your cousin directly or indirectly. Imagine him hearing of this post or seeing it. Now they're talking about me on the Internet, calling me mentally ill and Dangerous of all to have started it! His delusion would have come true. Please consider removing some of the specifics. He can not afford any unintentional harm. I'll pray for him and for you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NGONGE Posted October 4, 2004 Amazing! :eek: Dangerous, from the little you described, it doesn’t sound like your cousin has any problems at all. I’m surprised that people have managed to go into all sorts of through diagnosis over the whole thing! Seriously surprised. Like I said, unless there is more to the story than the little circumstantial evidence you’ve just posted I wouldn’t worry about the guy at all. However, if there is more to it than a single 27 year old quitting three jobs and talking about people plotting against him and talking behind his back, I’d say seek help. This is the last place to seek help in though. This place has people like me (and you), saaxib. We’re either very quick to declare his absolute madness or even quicker in ridiculing this Hollywood script of a story. Does my bum look cynical in this? :rolleyes: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sheherazade Posted October 4, 2004 Do u seriously think Dangerous would have posted this if he wasn't concerned?? Yes, he should get advice. If his cousin isn't sick, then fabulous, great, no serious harm done. He knows him better than we do and if things don't seem right to him, then there might be something to it. The man could be in the early stages of a deterioration. Some of what Dangerous describes point to that. I'd rather he watches over him and keeps mindful than ignore it. But that's just my 'seen-too-many-sick-young-Somali-men' Hollywood story. Your head looks cynical. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NGONGE Posted October 4, 2004 Can’t help but be cynical in Internet forums, sister. Wish I had some of your obligatory concern though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nomen nescio Posted October 4, 2004 Originally posted by NGONGE: Can’t help but be cynical in Internet forums, sister. Wish I had some of your obligatory concern though. Saxib obviously you didn’t read my post, I didn’t ask anyone here to diagnose my cousin’s illness for I know ordinary people post here.. I was rather hoping to get some brain storming on HOW to get my cousin get some help.. i.e. Things I could do to convince him to go and see his parents or see a doctor.. Don’t be cynical about this.. Because this could happen to you saxib.. and if you have nothing to contribute… then you need not to ramble your shit here.. Dangerous, Im sorry to hear about the visa complications. Is there a possibility of having a doctor or a health worker visit him at home accompanied with someone he trusts? he dreads doctors and hospitals... i was actually thinking to collaberate with his family and tell him that his mom is severly ill and needs to see him so he would travel to Qatar.. my only fear is that to worsen his illness.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NGONGE Posted October 4, 2004 Heh. I believe I DID “contribute†to this dismal thread, saaxib. You chose to view it as “rambling shitâ€! Ok, lets “brain stormâ€. How about you drug him up and send him home (like they used to do to Mr T in The A Team, he used to be scared of flying you see). :rolleyes: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nomen nescio Posted October 4, 2004 You trying to be funny arent ya?? well its not the place nor the time saxib.. Originally posted by NGONGE: Heh. I believe I DID “contribute†to this dismal thread, saaxib. You chose to view it as “rambling shitâ€! Ok, lets “brain stormâ€. How about you drug him up and send him home (like they used to do to Mr T in The A Team, he used to be scared of flying you see). :rolleyes: I wonder if you would do that to your brother if he had that illness.. ? Subxaan Alaah.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viking Posted October 4, 2004 NGONGE, Stop being such a piss-taker, this dude is serious. Dangerous, Your cousin needs to see a psychiatrist. I know that the Quran can help but these problems seem like they can be solved pharmacologically. I remember when I was a kid, an old relative of mine collapsed while taking wudhu. He was put on a bed and people suggested that Yassin ha la saaro, he died about 30 minutes later. I am not against reading Quran, but years after, I recalled that all his symptoms were that of a heart attack. The basic ABC (Airway, Breathing, Circulation) of first aid might have been the smarter thing to do while medical help was sought. We cannot sit back and say ONLY read the Quran or some du'as (one can always do that) while neglecting the 'ilm that Allah SWT has bestowed upon us to help enhance our lives. InshaAllah I hope he gets the help he requires and feels better because psychological illnesses are usually difficult to deal with and very stressful when compared to other pathologies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NGONGE Posted October 4, 2004 War, if you really think it’s that serious go and seek some professional help. Don’t go posting about your cousin’s illness in Internet forums. THAT’S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO TELL YOU IN NOT SO MANY WORDS, silly. Viking, I’m afraid I can’t help it. He decided to air his “problems†in public and invited others to comment. Once I commented on how dubious the whole story sounds he threw a hissy fit. Contrary to my better judgment, I actually advised him to SEEK HELP elsewhere, saaxib. Usually, I’d just deride such †heartbreaking†threads. Oh never mind, maybe I’m having a bad day. Here, here saaxib. Sit your cousin down and tell him in no uncertain terms that he’s throwing his life away. Tell him that he’s an adult who’s still in charge of all his faculties and that if he wanted to keep his sanity he has to go and see a specialist. Tell him there is no shame in doing so. Better safe than sorry and all that. If any of this is true, I sincerely hope the guy gets better. Been around discussion forums and characters like this guy far too long to know a windup when I’ve seen one though. :rolleyes: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
