Cuqdad

[Fabregas]

^^don't edit your post, now.

[AfricaOwn]

Originally posted by Ibtisam:

The prime examples who I run into are JB and Riyaal, Duke and Yey, Xiin and shariif.

You might want to add the homie Norf and Silaanyo then.

[Malika]

Che,

 

Thank the lord for Nyerere's socialism,growing up in a socialist country,where all is one and one is all,the cuqdaad thing hasn't made much of an impact,but am very aware of it.

 

But,there was no escape from the Somali pyche even if your generations born outside Somalia,we felt the impact straight away,as members of the family came to find refuge in our homes. The close knitted Somali neighborhood,was immediately divided into groups.

[Che -Guevara]

Originally posted by Afr0 GirL:

That word has not been a big part of my thinking process...

Why do you think that's the case?. Surely most of us are affected by the civil and the anomisity that came with, and it is safe most Somali households are conducive to hate mongering.

 

AfricaOwn...It is gotta be more than that. The Somali problem is multi-layered, and can't be explained by one thing.

 

Ibti...Do you believe others downplay your own sufferings and your sincere beliefs about things or for matter your genuine opinions about issues of the pasts and current.

 

Gheelle.T..I don't particularly talking about anyone, just general atmosphere of our people, I guess includes people on SOL including me.

[STOIC]

Che,

Quite frankly, I personally, I'm not immune from the disease.I have been exposed to the disease.Though the invasion of this disease itself achieved only a marginal sucess I have seen people who never grew up in Somalia, but still support their clan.At the root of all this was the ever growing clan polarization at home.I think that it is hard to be self-possed and witty person around Somalis. It is one thing to support your political affiliation and another thing to just hate someone just because of his clan. While a few may have gained wisdom by not judging people by their lineage I think the word Cuqdada represent one of the primary consequence of tribalism. Every clan may have an egg-sucking phony tribalist, but it is hard to make sense out of shear arrogance of a whole population .We as a Somali spend a whirling-dervish of energy on our own insecurities by trying to view everything and everyone from a clan perspective. Seemingly consumed by their vendetta about clanX and clan Y you will be surprised to notice how imbeciles and self-absorbed we are at times. At the root of all this is the old-age hatred between different clans. The hatred, like many said before me, grew out of the civil war, and depends still on the war that is being fought. For some, even a good idea they have may turn on itself because of their bias.

[Geel_jire]

@ "Why do you think thats the case?" you are starting to sound like Dr. Phil sxb.

[Ibtisam]

Ibti...Do you believe others downplay your own sufferings and your sincere beliefs about things or for matter your genuine opinions about issues of the pasts and current.

I think some people refuse to accept genuine opinions or agree to wrongs that have been committed, or if they do, they belittle it. This closes off any move to compromise or common ground/ platform. I think people do this a result of blind loyality to someone or something/ ideology. This is the problem I have for the Somalinimo dreams. Somalis are far to injuried to play happy family and brush things under the carpet.

 

Now Dr. Phil

[Che -Guevara]

Stoic N Malika...Glad it didn't take over your mind. What puzzle me most about our people is not the hate as that's something we naturally used to, but it is lack of appreciatation for their own self interest. Surely after decades, one would atleast rethink the idea of blind loyalty to clan since it hasn't yielded anything tangible at individual or even the clan level. People in America don't necessarily care for each other, but they understand their interests are tied together, thus willing to work together for common interests. Their common interests outweigh their mutual distrust and hate. Most appreciate this simple understanding.

 

LoooooooooooL@Geeljire

 

Ibti...Right on the head, and from my perspective, I do believe people discount my experiences or pains. I found those who harm you don't grasp the extent of your pain or simply don't care. I learn to deal with it by moving on and let it go, but I realise sometimes it makes one less sympathetic to what 'others' are going through.Case in point, many people I personally know are not bothered by what's going in Xamar. This is solely out of the bitter experiences they had decade and half ago.

 

The idea of using past injustices to turn blind eye to the current ones is troubling to say the least.

[SayidSomal]

My Definitions:

 

1. cuqdad masculine noun: having little capacity

2. cuqdad feminine noun: complex, phobia, psychological problem; suspicions

3. cuqdadee verb: cause someone to have phobias, inject fear into

4. cuqdadlow masculine noun: one who suffers phobias and complexes

 

i think i have the third one

[Nephissa]

L0L@dr.phil aka Che.

 

Like the Dr. himself says 'you can't fix what you don't acknowledge.' Most people you see will tell you cuqdad-ma-qabno, tribalists-ma-nihin, yaad dawayn marka?

 

Given the choice..I would rather deal with a vocal out and out tribalist [insert name here ] cuqdad-miiran and know exactly where I/we stand rather than deal with *closet tribalist* [insert name here, yes I know *you* :mad: ] someone who harbours these thoughts in their heart and show it in other more subtle ways that in the long run are even more hurtful and damaging.

 

Waxan ka helaa islaamaha marka Muqdishu laga hadlo, la soo boodo: ba'a ba'a ba'a, barigii koob iyo sagaashankii intii la inaga laayay iyo intan Muqdishu ku dhimatay ayaa is tira la eg? Ma kaa dhab baa?

[SayidSomal]

^^^

[Kool_Kat]

Originally posted by Geel_jire:

@ "Why do you think thats the case?" you are starting to sound like Dr. Phil sxb.

As I read Che's posts and su'aalo, I was thinking to myself 'iyaah maanta Dr Phil lee iga dheh igaarka'...I then read your post, cuqdad aanba ka qaaday...

 

On a serious note, cuqdad is anything anyone blabbers about all the time in hopes others might see it the same (ie. waan dhaqaaqnay, waan soconay)...Socda, sii dhaqaaqa, gadaal hasoo fiirinana hortiin nuur, waa ugu fikiree marka hore...But when it is redundant, it just seems wax cuqdad laga qabo...It is like repeating a lie enough times in hopes others might believe it...State it once, twice, heck even three time, then leave it at that...Lakiin markii maantoo dhan laguugu kor wardinaayo, sheekada iney cuqdad tahay waaloo jeedaa...One can be passionate about something, but when it is overstated wexey u ekaataa wax cuqdad laga qabo...

[Gheelle.T]

Nephy, leave my tol alone or else I will call you C**** hey thats just a jkz aigh

[Aaliyyah]

Waxan ka helaa islaamaha marka Muqdishu laga hadlo, la soo boodo: ba'a ba'a ba'a, barigii koob iyo sagaashankii intii la inaga laayay iyo intan Muqdishu ku dhimatay ayaa is tira la eg? Ma kaa dhab baa?

what took place at hamar in 1991 was real and tragic, and those who been through will tell you what it was to see your neighbor/friend come against you merely due to the fact that you belong to a certain tribe. That been said, Of course am not going to underestimate whats going in Hamar today. Inshallah I do hope that things work out in hamar, and in somalia as a whole. And, that we all learn to move forward and forgive one another. And, not allow the actions of few people to cloud our better judgements.

 

wa salaamu alaikum

[Nephissa]

err, what are you trying to say Aliyah? Say it out loud! This is the one place to let it all out..maanta waa bilaa-dambi, waa lais daweenayaa.. .